Rob Full Interview

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I’m
a
DJ
who originally
comes
from
from
the
London
direction
and
I
moved
up
to
the
North
in
1988
88-89
and
I
ended
up
living
on
the
corner
of
Manchester
near
near
Bury
and
and
somehow
I
managed
to
sorry
let
me
just
try
to
explain
this
a
little
bit
better.
When I
originally
lived
in
Milton
Keynes
and
when
I
was
living
in
Milton
Keynes,
I
met
this
bloke
who
lived
in
Chorley
whose
sister
worked
in
Milton
Keynes
and
he
came
down
to
live
in
Milton
Keynes
for
a
while
and
we
end
up
becoming
best
mates
and
he
always
used
to
say
to
me
you
need
to
come
up
you
need
to
come
up
North
so
so
I
started
you
know
in
like
1986-1987
coming
up
to
Chorley
occasionally
and
and
also
I
used
to
do
all
the
I
used
to
go
to
all
the
Acid
House
parties
on
the
M25
circuit.
So
I
went
to
all
of
those
down
south
in
the
The
Summer
of
Love
1989
and
then
my
very
best
friend
from
school,
he
ended
up
moving
up
to
Manchester
University
and
when
he
moved
up
to
Manchester
University,
he
said
he
called
me
whilst
I
was
working
down
South
and
said,
I’m
not
being
funny
right
all
that
stuff
that
we
did
and
all
those
amazing
parties
that we
went
to
on
the
M25
and
also
going
to
the
Astoria
in
London
and
Heaven
in
London
and
to
Rage
and
all
those
amazing
things
that
were
on
down
there.
He
said
forget
all
of
them
I’ve
discovered
this
place
in
Manchester
that
you
need
to
come
to
it’s
called
the
Hacienda
so
he
called
me
on
a
Wednesday
morning
to
tell
me
this
so
I
drove
straight
up
to
Manchester
that
night
and
from
from
where
I
work
down
South
and
and
went
to
the
Hacienda
for
the
first
time
and
I
absolutely
adored
it
so
I
end
up
going
back
on
the
Friday
to
the
Hacienda
and
then
this
became
a
cycle
of
going
on
a
Wednesday
and
a
Friday,
I’m
not
joking,
every
single
week
for
nearly
a
year
and
in
the
meantime,
you
know,
I
got
to
know
a
few
people
from
from
up
this
way
and
still
kept
in
contact
with
my
friend
who
had
some
connections
in
Chorley
and
anyway,
we
went
up
and
I
ended
up
going
to
visit
him
in
Chorley
one
time
and
after
going
to
the
Hacienda
and
one
of
his
friends,
who’s
that
guy?
Who
I’m
sure
you
might
remember
called
Rex
Sergeant.
Yeah.
Yeah.
God
Rest
his
soul.
He
was
he
went
to
school
with
this
guy
was
one
of
my
best
mates
and
he
we
were
sat
in
his
We
were
sat
in
his
upstairs
office
he
had
like
he
worked
in
a
van
hire
place
and
we
were
set
up
in
the
office
and
this
guy
came
in and
said,
You
want
to
go
to
a
party?
Ha
ha
and
I
was
like,
all
right.
Okay.
Yeah
course
I
loved
to
what
sort of
a
party
Acid
House
party
I
said,
right.
That
sounds
awesome.
So
we
went
to
this
we
went
to
this
place.
I
think
it
was
called
Pump
Street.
Yeah,
so
my
my
first
experience
of
Acid
House
in
Blackburn
was
going
to
Pump
Street
after
going
to
all
of
these
other
things
that
I’d
been
to
and
done
some
pretty
pretty
fantastic
stuff,
you
know
in
all
of
that
period
gone
to
all
of
those
parties
and
then
we
turned
up
at
Pump
Street
and
there
was
just
one
strobe
light
going
asbestos
dust
on
the
floor.
There
was
a
guy
doing
poetry
over
the
top
of
this
this
Joy
Division
track
and
then
it
turned
into
you
know
Acid
House
music
The
Phantom
all
those
kind
of
tunes
and
it
was
it
was
truly.
It
was
just
the
most
earthy
experience
that
I
had
had
in
all
of
the
stuff
that
I’ve
done
and
I’ve
been
like,
you
know,
I’ve
just
given
you
the
background
of
all
the
things
that
we
went
to
we
were
fully
immersed
in
in
the
in
the
scene,
but
when
we
when
we
turned
up
there,
it
was
just
so
raw
that
I
loved
it.
I
love
that
energy
and
I
love
the
fact
that
even
though
I
was
from
down
there,
you
know
just
got
to
know
a
couple
of
people
and
then
instantly
they
warmed
to
us.
I
think
the
thing
is
that
you
know,
you
have
to
you
have
to
not
take
yourself
too
seriously
and
people
will
take
the
piss
a
little
bit
and
all
the
rest
of
it
and
then
and
then
if
you
can
give
that
back
and
they
like
the
you
know,
they
like
a
bit
of
that
kind
of
banter.
I
just
became
accepted
and
it
was
It
was
a
real
it
was
a
really
brilliant
experience.
You
were
going
as
a
punter
at this
time?
I was going as a punter
yeah
You weren’t
DJing?
Yeah
completely
going
as
a
punter,
but
I’d
started
to
DJ
and
I
started
to
do
some
tapes
and
then
I
started
seeing
a
girl
who
who
called
Amanda
and
she
like
the
tapes
I
was
doing
and
then
she
played
those
tapes
to
her
brother
Clack
who
did
all
the
drinks
in
the
drinks
vans
and
then
we
just
somehow
all
formed
a
bit
of
a
bond
then
I
started
DJing
at
Minstrels
in
Blackburn
which
was
one
of
the
places
where
a
lot
of
people
met
On
Darwen Street
Yeah
before
going
to
go
to
all
the
parties
and
then
from
doing
all
that
stuff
they
introduced
me
to
a
guy
called
Hazim
and
Brian
and
then
I
started
doing
the
Pirate
Radio
and
then
from
doing
the
Pirate
Radio,
that’s
one
or
two
point
five fm
Yeah
BBC
the
Blackburn
Bus
Corporation
which
is
amazing.
Yes.
so
I’m
so
I’m
doing
the
Blackburn
Bus
Corporation
and
then
after
doing
that
for
a
little
while
then
somebody
didn’t
turn
up
at
one
of
the
parties
one
time
then
they
took
me
to
one
of
the
parties
and
I
DJed
at
one
of
the
parties
then
I
met
Shack
then
I
met
Tommy
and
then
yeah,
we
just
started
to
get
to
know
each
other
a
little
bit
and
you
know
it
the
thing
is
that
my
relationship
it
was
like
I
was
a
punter
I
was
involved
doing
the
you
know
doing
the
the
Pirate
stuff
and
then
just
right
towards
the
end
when
when
they
started
to
close
everything
down,
you
know,
and
they
did
the
Strawberry
Fields
parties
and
all
that
type
of
stuff
right
at
the
end
of
that
when
they
decided
I
had
to
move
out
of
Blackburn
because
there
was
so
much
pressure
from
the
police.
That’s
when
they
started
doing
little
decided
to
do
stuff
in
Leeds
and
by
this
point,
I
was
actually
now
living
in
Leeds
and
they
all
asked
me
if
I
wanted
to
DJ
at
the
party
in
Leeds
and
that
is
when
I
ended
up
getting
on
the
microphone
and
saying
listen
if
you
want
to
keep
the
party
going
we’re
gonna
have
to
fight
the
bastards
and
as
a
result
of
that.
Yeah
a
thousand
people
went
mental
you
were
there
I
believe
Yeah,
absolutely
there.
I
saw
you
building
speakers.
I
think
probably
one
of
my
favorite
memories
would
be
when
there
was
a
party
on
at
the
the
New
Post
Office
up
in
Shadsworth
Yeah,
behind the
Sett
End
Yeah
behind
Sett
End
Yeah,
and
it
was
brand
new
building
and
and
the
only
way
to
get
in
it
was
to
go
on
planks
of
wood
over
like
a
little
moat
sort
of
thing
and
then
in
through
the
bottom
Windows
which
is what
we
did
and
then
there
was
somebody
on
the
other
side
who
had
a
plastic
bag
and
was
just
collecting
money
and
the
they’d
say,
well
what
have
you
got
and
you
say
I’ve
got
three
quid
and
they
were
like
just
chuck
it
in
there
mate
and
and
then
went
in
went
in
through
like
a
through
that
basement
and
then
up
into
the
main
building
and
it
was
just
awesome.
I remember
they
were
playing
I’ll
tell
you
what,
it’s
called
it’s
called
You
Bad
Chubbs – Chubb Rock
that’s
what
it’s
called
that’s
what
was
playing
and
there
were
playing
like
Wow
this
mixture
of
like
Hip
House
Acid
House
and
just
straight-up
piano
tunes
and
I
just
went
in
and
there
was
probably
god
knows
thousands
of
people
it
look
like
to
me
in
there
people
hanging
off
every
everything,
you
know
or
on
the
sides
on
the
sides
of
the
building
and
then
I
ended
up
getting
up
and
dancing
on
top
of
this
this
digger
mechanical
digger
to
Rich
in
Paradise.
Unfortunately,
you
know,
I
ended
up
doing
three
months
inside.
The
worst
memory
is
is
that
you
know
going
to
prison
for
it
really,
you
know,
the
thing
is
that
I
did
get
carried
away
at
the
time.
It’s
probably
well
documented
now,
you
know,
but
I
did
get
a
bit
carried
away
the
time
I
certainly
didn’t
know
that
all
of
a
sudden
my
actions
were
going
to
cause
you
know,
what
was
the
one
charge
down
from
incitement
to
riot
you
know,
so
yeah
that
that
is
that
is
probably
the
worst
experience
of
it
all
Caveat
to
that
I
would
say
is
that
particular
experience
has
been
the
springboard
to
doing
what
I’ve
ended
up
doing
the
last
30
years
because
you
know,
I
literally
decided
right
when
I
was
at
when
I
was
behind
bars,
you
know
looking
down
onto
Armly
I
did
actually
have
that
moment
where
I
looked
at
and
thought
right.
You
know
what
I’ve
got
two
routes
here.
I
can
either
make
it
work
or
I
can
fire
it
all
off
and
I
decided
I
was
gonna
ask
absolutely
go
for
gold
and
that’s
what
I’ve
done.
I
think
the
thing
that
was
really
special
when
when
this
all
kicked
off
the
difference
between
what
we
did
and
a
lot
of
other
things
that
have
come
since
it
is
that
this
was
quite
a
new
form
of
music
in
terms
of
it
was
a
marriage
of
machines
and
musicians,
you
know,
so
therefore
it
was
something
that
hadn’t
really
been
been
encountered
before
by
a
lot
of
people
and
I
think
that
was
that
that
made
it
so
special
because
the
people
that
were
operating
these
new
bits
of
machinery
like
the
the
909
the
303
the
808
and
and
all
of
the
role
and
gear,
you
know
amongst
many
other
synths.
It
was
a
brand
new
thing
but
in
order
to
get
that
music
to
sound
the
way
it
did
the
people
that
operated
it
were
actually
musicians
from
another
time
and
I
think
that
that’s
the
thing
that
made
it
really
special
was
is
it
you
know
it
was
it
was
that
complete
For
other
people
looking
into
it
looked
like
it
was
going
to
be
a
passing
fad
really
Totally, yeah,
absolutely.
Where
is
it
actually
just
evolved
so
much
over
the
years
and
It’s
still
here.
It’s
still
here
30 years on
You know,
we’re
sat
outside
somewhere
that’s
absolutely
rammed
there.
Yeah,
you
know
playing
playing
the
tunes
of
the
day
Some
of
them
from
back
in
the
day.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So
yeah,
so
I’m
very
proud
of
all
the
stuff
in
the
all
the
people
that
I
worked
with,
you
know
that
with
the
you
know,
it’s
kind
of
left
its
stamp
for
to
be
documenting
a
hundred
years
time.
I
think
that
what
a
lot
of
people
what
a
a
lot
of
scenes
haven’t
seen
since
is
that
it
wasn’t
just
about
the
music
and
it
was
a
lot
don’t
get
me
wrong
it was
a
lot
about
the
music.
It
was
a
lot
about
camaraderie
but
also
it
was
it
was
it
was
about
it
was
a
little
bit
lawless,
you
know,
that’s
the
thing
it
it
it
was
it
was
actually,
you
know,
yeah,
it
felt
like
we
were
fighting
the
good
fight
it
changed
legislation
and
allowed
people
to
go
out
and
dance
all
night.
It
did
create
a
Unity.
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I’m
a
DJ
who originally
comes
from
from
the
London
direction
and
I
moved
up
to
the
North
in
1988
88-89
and
I
ended
up
living
on
the
corner
of
Manchester
near
near
Bury
and
and
somehow
I
managed
to
sorry
let
me
just
try
to
explain
this
a
little
bit
better.
When I
originally
lived
in
Milton
Keynes
and
when
I
was
living
in
Milton
Keynes,
I
met
this
bloke
who
lived
in
Chorley
whose
sister
worked
in
Milton
Keynes
and
he
came
down
to
live
in
Milton
Keynes
for
a
while
and
we
end
up
becoming
best
mates
and
he
always
used
to
say
to
me
you
need
to
come
up
you
need
to
come
up
North
so
so
I
started
you
know
in
like
1986-1987
coming
up
to
Chorley
occasionally
and
and
also
I
used
to
do
all
the
I
used
to
go
to
all
the
Acid
House
parties
on
the
M25
circuit.
So
I
went
to
all
of
those
down
south
in
the
The
Summer
of
Love
1989
and
then
my
very
best
friend
from
school,
he
ended
up
moving
up
to
Manchester
University
and
when
he
moved
up
to
Manchester
University,
he
said
he
called
me
whilst
I
was
working
down
South
and
said,
I’m
not
being
funny
right
all
that
stuff
that
we
did
and
all
those
amazing
parties
that we
went
to
on
the
M25
and
also
going
to
the
Astoria
in
London
and
Heaven
in
London
and
to
Rage
and
all
those
amazing
things
that
were
on
down
there.
He
said
forget
all
of
them
I’ve
discovered
this
place
in
Manchester
that
you
need
to
come
to
it’s
called
the
Hacienda
so
he
called
me
on
a
Wednesday
morning
to
tell
me
this
so
I
drove
straight
up
to
Manchester
that
night
and
from
from
where
I
work
down
South
and
and
went
to
the
Hacienda
for
the
first
time
and
I
absolutely
adored
it
so
I
end
up
going
back
on
the
Friday
to
the
Hacienda
and
then
this
became
a
cycle
of
going
on
a
Wednesday
and
a
Friday,
I’m
not
joking,
every
single
week
for
nearly
a
year
and
in
the
meantime,
you
know,
I
got
to
know
a
few
people
from
from
up
this
way
and
still
kept
in
contact
with
my
friend
who
had
some
connections
in
Chorley
and
anyway,
we
went
up
and
I
ended
up
going
to
visit
him
in
Chorley
one
time
and
after
going
to
the
Hacienda
and
one
of
his
friends,
who’s
that
guy?
Who
I’m
sure
you
might
remember
called
Rex
Sergeant.
Yeah.
Yeah.
God
Rest
his
soul.
He
was
he
went
to
school
with
this
guy
was
one
of
my
best
mates
and
he
we
were
sat
in
his
We
were
sat
in
his
upstairs
office
he
had
like
he
worked
in
a
van
hire
place
and
we
were
set
up
in
the
office
and
this
guy
came
in and
said,
You
want
to
go
to
a
party?
Ha
ha
and
I
was
like,
all
right.
Okay.
Yeah
course
I
loved
to
what
sort of
a
party
Acid
House
party
I
said,
right.
That
sounds
awesome.
So
we
went
to
this
we
went
to
this
place.
I
think
it
was
called
Pump
Street.
Yeah,
so
my
my
first
experience
of
Acid
House
in
Blackburn
was
going
to
Pump
Street
after
going
to
all
of
these
other
things
that
I’d
been
to
and
done
some
pretty
pretty
fantastic
stuff,
you
know
in
all
of
that
period
gone
to
all
of
those
parties
and
then
we
turned
up
at
Pump
Street
and
there
was
just
one
strobe
light
going
asbestos
dust
on
the
floor.
There
was
a
guy
doing
poetry
over
the
top
of
this
this
Joy
Division
track
and
then
it
turned
into
you
know
Acid
House
music
The
Phantom
all
those
kind
of
tunes
and
it
was
it
was
truly.
It
was
just
the
most
earthy
experience
that
I
had
had
in
all
of
the
stuff
that
I’ve
done
and
I’ve
been
like,
you
know,
I’ve
just
given
you
the
background
of
all
the
things
that
we
went
to
we
were
fully
immersed
in
in
the
in
the
scene,
but
when
we
when
we
turned
up
there,
it
was
just
so
raw
that
I
loved
it.
I
love
that
energy
and
I
love
the
fact
that
even
though
I
was
from
down
there,
you
know
just
got
to
know
a
couple
of
people
and
then
instantly
they
warmed
to
us.
I
think
the
thing
is
that
you
know,
you
have
to
you
have
to
not
take
yourself
too
seriously
and
people
will
take
the
piss
a
little
bit
and
all
the
rest
of
it
and
then
and
then
if
you
can
give
that
back
and
they
like
the
you
know,
they
like
a
bit
of
that
kind
of
banter.
I
just
became
accepted
and
it
was
It
was
a
real
it
was
a
really
brilliant
experience.
You
were
going
as
a
punter
at this
time?
I was going as a punter
yeah
You weren’t
DJing?
Yeah
completely
going
as
a
punter,
but
I’d
started
to
DJ
and
I
started
to
do
some
tapes
and
then
I
started
seeing
a
girl
who
who
called
Amanda
and
she
like
the
tapes
I
was
doing
and
then
she
played
those
tapes
to
her
brother
Clack
who
did
all
the
drinks
in
the
drinks
vans
and
then
we
just
somehow
all
formed
a
bit
of
a
bond
then
I
started
DJing
at
Minstrels
in
Blackburn
which
was
one
of
the
places
where
a
lot
of
people
met
On
Darwen Street
Yeah
before
going
to
go
to
all
the
parties
and
then
from
doing
all
that
stuff
they
introduced
me
to
a
guy
called
Hazim
and
Brian
and
then
I
started
doing
the
Pirate
Radio
and
then
from
doing
the
Pirate
Radio,
that’s
one
or
two
point
five fm
Yeah
BBC
the
Blackburn
Bus
Corporation
which
is
amazing.
Yes.
so
I’m
so
I’m
doing
the
Blackburn
Bus
Corporation
and
then
after
doing
that
for
a
little
while
then
somebody
didn’t
turn
up
at
one
of
the
parties
one
time
then
they
took
me
to
one
of
the
parties
and
I
DJed
at
one
of
the
parties
then
I
met
Shack
then
I
met
Tommy
and
then
yeah,
we
just
started
to
get
to
know
each
other
a
little
bit
and
you
know
it
the
thing
is
that
my
relationship
it
was
like
I
was
a
punter
I
was
involved
doing
the
you
know
doing
the
the
Pirate
stuff
and
then
just
right
towards
the
end
when
when
they
started
to
close
everything
down,
you
know,
and
they
did
the
Strawberry
Fields
parties
and
all
that
type
of
stuff
right
at
the
end
of
that
when
they
decided
I
had
to
move
out
of
Blackburn
because
there
was
so
much
pressure
from
the
police.
That’s
when
they
started
doing
little
decided
to
do
stuff
in
Leeds
and
by
this
point,
I
was
actually
now
living
in
Leeds
and
they
all
asked
me
if
I
wanted
to
DJ
at
the
party
in
Leeds
and
that
is
when
I
ended
up
getting
on
the
microphone
and
saying
listen
if
you
want
to
keep
the
party
going
we’re
gonna
have
to
fight
the
bastards
and
as
a
result
of
that.
Yeah
a
thousand
people
went
mental
you
were
there
I
believe
Yeah,
absolutely
there.
I
saw
you
building
speakers.
I
think
probably
one
of
my
favorite
memories
would
be
when
there
was
a
party
on
at
the
the
New
Post
Office
up
in
Shadsworth
Yeah,
behind the
Sett
End
Yeah
behind
Sett
End
Yeah,
and
it
was
brand
new
building
and
and
the
only
way
to
get
in
it
was
to
go
on
planks
of
wood
over
like
a
little
moat
sort
of
thing
and
then
in
through
the
bottom
Windows
which
is what
we
did
and
then
there
was
somebody
on
the
other
side
who
had
a
plastic
bag
and
was
just
collecting
money
and
the
they’d
say,
well
what
have
you
got
and
you
say
I’ve
got
three
quid
and
they
were
like
just
chuck
it
in
there
mate
and
and
then
went
in
went
in
through
like
a
through
that
basement
and
then
up
into
the
main
building
and
it
was
just
awesome.
I remember
they
were
playing
I’ll
tell
you
what,
it’s
called
it’s
called
You
Bad
Chubbs – Chubb Rock
that’s
what
it’s
called
that’s
what
was
playing
and
there
were
playing
like
Wow
this
mixture
of
like
Hip
House
Acid
House
and
just
straight-up
piano
tunes
and
I
just
went
in
and
there
was
probably
god
knows
thousands
of
people
it
look
like
to
me
in
there
people
hanging
off
every
everything,
you
know
or
on
the
sides
on
the
sides
of
the
building
and
then
I
ended
up
getting
up
and
dancing
on
top
of
this
this
digger
mechanical
digger
to
Rich
in
Paradise.
Unfortunately,
you
know,
I
ended
up
doing
three
months
inside.
The
worst
memory
is
is
that
you
know
going
to
prison
for
it
really,
you
know,
the
thing
is
that
I
did
get
carried
away
at
the
time.
It’s
probably
well
documented
now,
you
know,
but
I
did
get
a
bit
carried
away
the
time
I
certainly
didn’t
know
that
all
of
a
sudden
my
actions
were
going
to
cause
you
know,
what
was
the
one
charge
down
from
incitement
to
riot
you
know,
so
yeah
that
that
is
that
is
probably
the
worst
experience
of
it
all
Caveat
to
that
I
would
say
is
that
particular
experience
has
been
the
springboard
to
doing
what
I’ve
ended
up
doing
the
last
30
years
because
you
know,
I
literally
decided
right
when
I
was
at
when
I
was
behind
bars,
you
know
looking
down
onto
Armly
I
did
actually
have
that
moment
where
I
looked
at
and
thought
right.
You
know
what
I’ve
got
two
routes
here.
I
can
either
make
it
work
or
I
can
fire
it
all
off
and
I
decided
I
was
gonna
ask
absolutely
go
for
gold
and
that’s
what
I’ve
done.
I
think
the
thing
that
was
really
special
when
when
this
all
kicked
off
the
difference
between
what
we
did
and
a
lot
of
other
things
that
have
come
since
it
is
that
this
was
quite
a
new
form
of
music
in
terms
of
it
was
a
marriage
of
machines
and
musicians,
you
know,
so
therefore
it
was
something
that
hadn’t
really
been
been
encountered
before
by
a
lot
of
people
and
I
think
that
was
that
that
made
it
so
special
because
the
people
that
were
operating
these
new
bits
of
machinery
like
the
the
909
the
303
the
808
and
and
all
of
the
role
and
gear,
you
know
amongst
many
other
synths.
It
was
a
brand
new
thing
but
in
order
to
get
that
music
to
sound
the
way
it
did
the
people
that
operated
it
were
actually
musicians
from
another
time
and
I
think
that
that’s
the
thing
that
made
it
really
special
was
is
it
you
know
it
was
it
was
that
complete
For
other
people
looking
into
it
looked
like
it
was
going
to
be
a
passing
fad
really
Totally, yeah,
absolutely.
Where
is
it
actually
just
evolved
so
much
over
the
years
and
It’s
still
here.
It’s
still
here
30 years on
You know,
we’re
sat
outside
somewhere
that’s
absolutely
rammed
there.
Yeah,
you
know
playing
playing
the
tunes
of
the
day
Some
of
them
from
back
in
the
day.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So
yeah,
so
I’m
very
proud
of
all
the
stuff
in
the
all
the
people
that
I
worked
with,
you
know
that
with
the
you
know,
it’s
kind
of
left
its
stamp
for
to
be
documenting
a
hundred
years
time.
I
think
that
what
a
lot
of
people
what
a
a
lot
of
scenes
haven’t
seen
since
is
that
it
wasn’t
just
about
the
music
and
it
was
a
lot
don’t
get
me
wrong
it was
a
lot
about
the
music.
It
was
a
lot
about
camaraderie
but
also
it
was
it
was
it
was
about
it
was
a
little
bit
lawless,
you
know,
that’s
the
thing
it
it
it
was
it
was
actually,
you
know,
yeah,
it
felt
like
we
were
fighting
the
good
fight
it
changed
legislation
and
allowed
people
to
go
out
and
dance
all
night.
It
did
create
a
Unity.

Rob Getting Involved

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I’m
a
DJ
who originally
comes
from
from
the
London
direction
and
I
moved
up
to
the
North
in
1988
88-89
and
I
ended
up
living
on
the
corner
of
Manchester
near
near
Bury
and
and
somehow
I
managed
to
sorry
let
me
just
try
to
explain
this
a
little
bit
better.
I
originally
lived
in
Milton
Keynes
and
when
I
was
living
in
Milton
Keynes,
I
met
this
bloke
who
lived
in
Chorley
whose
sister
worked
in
Milton
Keynes
and
he
came
down
to
live
in
Milton
Keynes
for
a
while
and
we
end
up
becoming
best
mates
and
he
always
used
to
say
to
me
you
need
to
come
up
you
need
to
come
up
North
so
so
I
started
you
know
in
like
1986-1987
coming
up
to
Chorley
occasionally
and
and
also
I
used
to
do
all
the
I
used
to
go
to
all
the
Acid
House
parties
on
the
M25
circuit.
So
I
went
to
all
of
those
down
south
in
the
The
Summer
of
Love
1989
and
then
my
very
best
friend
from
school
he
ended
up
moving
up
to
Manchester
University.
And
when
he
moved
up
to
Manchester
University,
he
said
he
called
me
whilst
I
was
working
down
South
and
said,
I’m
not
being
funny
right
all
that
stuff
that
we
did
and
all
those
amazing
parties
that we
went
to
on
the
M25
and
also
going
to
the
Astoria
in
London
and
Heaven
in
London
at
to
Rage
and
all
those
amazing
things
that
are
on
down
there
he
said
forget
all
of
them.
I’ve
discovered
this
place
in
Manchester
that
you
need
to
come
to
is
called
the
Hacienda
so
he
called
me
on
this
Wednesday
morning
to
tell
me
this
so
I
drove
straight
up
to
Manchester
that
night
and
from
from
where
I
work
down
South
and
and
went
to
the
Hacienda
for
the
first
time
and
I
absolutely
adored
it.
So
I
end
up
going
back
on
the
Friday
to
the
Hacienda
and
then
this
became
a
cycle
of
going
on
a
Wednesday
and
a
Friday,
I’m
not
joking,
every
single
week
for
nearly
a
year
and
in
the
meantime,
you
know,
I
got
to
know
a
few
people
from
from
up
this
way
and
still
kept
in
contact
with
my
friend
who
had
some
connections
in
Chorley
and
anyway,
we
went
up
I
end
up
going
to
visit
him
in
Chorley
one
time
and
after
going
to
the
Hacienda
and
one
of
his
friends,
who’s
the
guy
who
I’m
sure
you
might
remember
called
Rex
Sergeant.
Yeah.
Yeah.
God
Rest
his
soul.
He
was
he
went
to
school
with
this
guy
was
one
of
my
best
mates
and
he
we
were
sat
in
his
we
were
sat
in
his
upstairs
office
he
had
like
he
worked
in
a
van
hire
place
and
we
were
set
up
in
the
office
and
this
guy
came in
and
said
You
want
to
go
to
a
party?
Ha
ha
and
I
was
like,
all
right.
Okay.
Yeah
course
I
loved
to
I said
what
sort
of a
party
Acid
House
party
I
said,
right.
That
sounds
awesome.
So
we
went
to
this
we
went
to
this
place.
I
think
it
was
called
Pump
Street.
Yeah,
so
my
my
first
experience
of
acid
house
in
Blackburn
was
going
to
Pump
Street
after
going
to
all
of
these
other
things
that
I’d
been
to
and
done
some
pretty
pretty
fantastic
stuff,
you
know
in
all
of
that
period
gone
to
all
of
those
parties
and
then
we
turned
up
at
Pump
Street
and
there
was
just
one
strobe
light
going
asbestos
dust
on
the
floor.
There
was
a
guy
doing
poetry
over
the
top
of
this
this
Joy
Division
track
and
then
it
turned
into
you
know
Acid
House
music
The
Phantom
all
those
kind
of
tunes
and
it
was
it
was
truly.
It
was
just
the
most
earthy
experience
that
I
had
had
in
all
of
the
stuff
that
I’ve
done
and
I’ve
been
like,
you
know,
I’ve
just
given
you
the
background
of
all
the
things
that
we
went
to
we
were
fully
immersed
in
in
the
in
the
scene,
but
when
we
when
we
turned
up
there,
it
was
just
so
raw
that
I
loved
it.
I
love
that
energy
and
I
love
the
fact
that
even
though
I
was
from
down
there,
you
know
just
got
to
know
a
couple
of
people
and
then
instantly
they
warmed
to
us.
I
think
the
thing
is
that
you
know,
you
have
to
you
have
to
not
take
yourself
too
seriously
and
people
will
take
the
piss
a
little
bit
and
all
the
rest
of
it
and
then
and
then
if
you
can
give
that
back
and
they
like
the
you
know,
they
like
a
bit
of
that
kind
of
banter
I
just
became
accepted
and
it
was
It
was
a
real
it
was
a
really
brilliant
experience.
So you
were
going
as
a
punter.
at the
time?
Yeah, I was going as a punter
You weren’t
DJ’ing at the time?
Yeah
completely
going
as
a
punter,
but
I’d
started
to
DJ
and
I
started
to
do
some
tapes
and
then
I
started
seeing
a
girl
who
who
called
Amanda
and
she
like
the
tapes
I
was
doing
and
then
she
played
those
tapes
to
her
brother
Clack
who
did
all
the
drinks
in
the
drinks
vans
and
then
we
just
somehow
all
formed
a
bit
of
a
bond
then
I
started
DJing
at
Minstrels
in
Blackburn
which
was
one
of
the
places
where
a
lot
of
people
met
On
Darwen
Street
Yeah
before
going
to
go
into
all
the
parties
and
then
from
doing
all
that
stuff
they
introduced
me
to
a
guy
called
Hazim
and
Brian
and
then
I
started
doing
the
Pirate
Radio
and
then
from
doing
the
Pirate
Radio,
that’s
1
0
2
.
5
Yeah
BBC
the
Blackburn
Bus
Corporation
which
is
amazing.
Yes.
so
I’m
so
I’m doing
Blackburn
Bus
Corporation
and
then
after
doing
that
for
a
little
while
then
somebody
didn’t
turn
up
at
one
of
the
parties
one
time
then
they
took
me
to
one
of
the
parties
and
I
DJed
at
one
of
the
parties
then
I
met
Shack
then
I
met
Tommy
and
then
yeah,
we
just
started
to
get
to
know
each
other
a
little
bit
and
you
know
it
the
thing
is
that
my
relationship
it
was
like
I
was
a
punter
I
was
involved
doing
the
you
know
doing
the
the
Pirate
stuff
and
then
just
right
towards
the
end
when
when
they
started
to
close
everything
down,
you
know
in
the
they
did
the
Strawberry
Fields
parties
and
all
that
type
of
stuff
right
at
the
end
of
that
when
they
decided
I
had
to
move
out
of
Blackburn
because
there
was
so
much
pressure
from
the
police.
That’s
when
they
started
doing
little
decided
to
do
stuff
in
Leeds
and
by
this
point,
I
was
actually
now
living
in
Leeds
and
they
asked
me
if
I
wanted
to
DJ
at
the
party
in
Leeds
and
that
is
when
I
ended
up
getting
on
the
microphone
and
saying
listen
if
you
want
to
keep
the
party
going
we’re
gonna
have
to
fight
the
bastards
and
as
a
result
of
that.
Yeah
a
thousand
people
went
mental
you
were
there
I
believe
Yeah,
absolutely
there.
I
saw
you
building
the
speakers.
Now Playing:
Rob
Getting involved. (7:26 mins)
Rob
Bad memories. (1:03 mins)

Full Transcript:

I’m
a
DJ
who originally
comes
from
from
the
London
direction
and
I
moved
up
to
the
North
in
1988
88-89
and
I
ended
up
living
on
the
corner
of
Manchester
near
near
Bury
and
and
somehow
I
managed
to
sorry
let
me
just
try
to
explain
this
a
little
bit
better.
I
originally
lived
in
Milton
Keynes
and
when
I
was
living
in
Milton
Keynes,
I
met
this
bloke
who
lived
in
Chorley
whose
sister
worked
in
Milton
Keynes
and
he
came
down
to
live
in
Milton
Keynes
for
a
while
and
we
end
up
becoming
best
mates
and
he
always
used
to
say
to
me
you
need
to
come
up
you
need
to
come
up
North
so
so
I
started
you
know
in
like
1986-1987
coming
up
to
Chorley
occasionally
and
and
also
I
used
to
do
all
the
I
used
to
go
to
all
the
Acid
House
parties
on
the
M25
circuit.
So
I
went
to
all
of
those
down
south
in
the
The
Summer
of
Love
1989
and
then
my
very
best
friend
from
school
he
ended
up
moving
up
to
Manchester
University.
And
when
he
moved
up
to
Manchester
University,
he
said
he
called
me
whilst
I
was
working
down
South
and
said,
I’m
not
being
funny
right
all
that
stuff
that
we
did
and
all
those
amazing
parties
that we
went
to
on
the
M25
and
also
going
to
the
Astoria
in
London
and
Heaven
in
London
at
to
Rage
and
all
those
amazing
things
that
are
on
down
there
he
said
forget
all
of
them.
I’ve
discovered
this
place
in
Manchester
that
you
need
to
come
to
is
called
the
Hacienda
so
he
called
me
on
this
Wednesday
morning
to
tell
me
this
so
I
drove
straight
up
to
Manchester
that
night
and
from
from
where
I
work
down
South
and
and
went
to
the
Hacienda
for
the
first
time
and
I
absolutely
adored
it.
So
I
end
up
going
back
on
the
Friday
to
the
Hacienda
and
then
this
became
a
cycle
of
going
on
a
Wednesday
and
a
Friday,
I’m
not
joking,
every
single
week
for
nearly
a
year
and
in
the
meantime,
you
know,
I
got
to
know
a
few
people
from
from
up
this
way
and
still
kept
in
contact
with
my
friend
who
had
some
connections
in
Chorley
and
anyway,
we
went
up
I
end
up
going
to
visit
him
in
Chorley
one
time
and
after
going
to
the
Hacienda
and
one
of
his
friends,
who’s
the
guy
who
I’m
sure
you
might
remember
called
Rex
Sergeant.
Yeah.
Yeah.
God
Rest
his
soul.
He
was
he
went
to
school
with
this
guy
was
one
of
my
best
mates
and
he
we
were
sat
in
his
we
were
sat
in
his
upstairs
office
he
had
like
he
worked
in
a
van
hire
place
and
we
were
set
up
in
the
office
and
this
guy
came in
and
said
You
want
to
go
to
a
party?
Ha
ha
and
I
was
like,
all
right.
Okay.
Yeah
course
I
loved
to
I said
what
sort
of a
party
Acid
House
party
I
said,
right.
That
sounds
awesome.
So
we
went
to
this
we
went
to
this
place.
I
think
it
was
called
Pump
Street.
Yeah,
so
my
my
first
experience
of
acid
house
in
Blackburn
was
going
to
Pump
Street
after
going
to
all
of
these
other
things
that
I’d
been
to
and
done
some
pretty
pretty
fantastic
stuff,
you
know
in
all
of
that
period
gone
to
all
of
those
parties
and
then
we
turned
up
at
Pump
Street
and
there
was
just
one
strobe
light
going
asbestos
dust
on
the
floor.
There
was
a
guy
doing
poetry
over
the
top
of
this
this
Joy
Division
track
and
then
it
turned
into
you
know
Acid
House
music
The
Phantom
all
those
kind
of
tunes
and
it
was
it
was
truly.
It
was
just
the
most
earthy
experience
that
I
had
had
in
all
of
the
stuff
that
I’ve
done
and
I’ve
been
like,
you
know,
I’ve
just
given
you
the
background
of
all
the
things
that
we
went
to
we
were
fully
immersed
in
in
the
in
the
scene,
but
when
we
when
we
turned
up
there,
it
was
just
so
raw
that
I
loved
it.
I
love
that
energy
and
I
love
the
fact
that
even
though
I
was
from
down
there,
you
know
just
got
to
know
a
couple
of
people
and
then
instantly
they
warmed
to
us.
I
think
the
thing
is
that
you
know,
you
have
to
you
have
to
not
take
yourself
too
seriously
and
people
will
take
the
piss
a
little
bit
and
all
the
rest
of
it
and
then
and
then
if
you
can
give
that
back
and
they
like
the
you
know,
they
like
a
bit
of
that
kind
of
banter
I
just
became
accepted
and
it
was
It
was
a
real
it
was
a
really
brilliant
experience.
So you
were
going
as
a
punter.
at the
time?
Yeah, I was going as a punter
You weren’t
DJ’ing at the time?
Yeah
completely
going
as
a
punter,
but
I’d
started
to
DJ
and
I
started
to
do
some
tapes
and
then
I
started
seeing
a
girl
who
who
called
Amanda
and
she
like
the
tapes
I
was
doing
and
then
she
played
those
tapes
to
her
brother
Clack
who
did
all
the
drinks
in
the
drinks
vans
and
then
we
just
somehow
all
formed
a
bit
of
a
bond
then
I
started
DJing
at
Minstrels
in
Blackburn
which
was
one
of
the
places
where
a
lot
of
people
met
On
Darwen
Street
Yeah
before
going
to
go
into
all
the
parties
and
then
from
doing
all
that
stuff
they
introduced
me
to
a
guy
called
Hazim
and
Brian
and
then
I
started
doing
the
Pirate
Radio
and
then
from
doing
the
Pirate
Radio,
that’s
1
0
2
.
5
Yeah
BBC
the
Blackburn
Bus
Corporation
which
is
amazing.
Yes.
so
I’m
so
I’m doing
Blackburn
Bus
Corporation
and
then
after
doing
that
for
a
little
while
then
somebody
didn’t
turn
up
at
one
of
the
parties
one
time
then
they
took
me
to
one
of
the
parties
and
I
DJed
at
one
of
the
parties
then
I
met
Shack
then
I
met
Tommy
and
then
yeah,
we
just
started
to
get
to
know
each
other
a
little
bit
and
you
know
it
the
thing
is
that
my
relationship
it
was
like
I
was
a
punter
I
was
involved
doing
the
you
know
doing
the
the
Pirate
stuff
and
then
just
right
towards
the
end
when
when
they
started
to
close
everything
down,
you
know
in
the
they
did
the
Strawberry
Fields
parties
and
all
that
type
of
stuff
right
at
the
end
of
that
when
they
decided
I
had
to
move
out
of
Blackburn
because
there
was
so
much
pressure
from
the
police.
That’s
when
they
started
doing
little
decided
to
do
stuff
in
Leeds
and
by
this
point,
I
was
actually
now
living
in
Leeds
and
they
asked
me
if
I
wanted
to
DJ
at
the
party
in
Leeds
and
that
is
when
I
ended
up
getting
on
the
microphone
and
saying
listen
if
you
want
to
keep
the
party
going
we’re
gonna
have
to
fight
the
bastards
and
as
a
result
of
that.
Yeah
a
thousand
people
went
mental
you
were
there
I
believe
Yeah,
absolutely
there.
I
saw
you
building
the
speakers.

David B Getting Involved

Click to play

How
old
were
you
at
the
time?
I
would
be
15
16
Where did
you live
at the time?
Accrington,
Okay,
tell
us
how
you
got
involved?
Well
it
all
started
out
on
was
it…
….
Saturday
night.
We
were
in
a
nightclub
in
Accrington
I
won’t
mention
any
names
and
some
guy
said
to
us…
one
of
the
lads
said
we’re
going
to
one
of
these
Acid
House
parties
and
it
was
probably
the
first
the
second
one
there
ever
was
around
here.
and
we
ended
up
in
there
and
from
then
on
that.
were
it
there
were no
looking
back
that were it
I
was
I
remember
saying
to
myself
this
is
going
to
catch
on
because
it
was
such
a
contrast
from
traditional
pubs
and
clubs
and
everything
else
and
it
obviously
they
were
you
know,
stimulants
involved
and
such
like
but
I
just
thought
of
this
is
going
to
take
off
and
it
did
do
you
know,
So
which
venue
is
this
which
was
the
second
one?
I
can
only
vaguely
remember
it
was
somewhere
at
the
back
end
the
Blackburn.
I were
just
talking
to
Tom here.
I
think
it were
back of
Sett
End
at
top
of
Blackburn
it
wasn’t
the
Live
The
Dream
one
that
was
after
I
think
I
think
these
will
before
and
then
there
was
an
outfit
from
Accrington
that
started
cloning
them
and
they
try
to
put
parties
on
in
and
around
Accrington
and
there
was
one
up
at
Broad
Oak
and
the
contrast
the
clashed
for
a
little
while
for
a
couple
months
and
then
they
fizzled
out
and
I think
they
joined
forces
or
whatever
and
then
it
went
off
from
there
and
we
used
to
just
we
traveled
all
round
Northwest
every
Saturday
night
for
probably
until
I
think
some
of
the
last
ones
were
the
Lammock
ones
which
Dave
France
was
at
it
were
operation
Alkaline
which
was
the
police
operation
to
repel
Acid…
Acid
House
and
that
was
one
of
the
last
ones
after
that
they
started
to
die
out.
Now Playing:
David B
Getting involved. (1:37 mins)
David B
Bad memories. (1:12 mins)

Full Transcript:

How
old
were
you
at
the
time?
I
would
be
15
16
Where did
you live
at the time?
Accrington,
Okay,
tell
us
how
you
got
involved?
Well
it
all
started
out
on
was
it…
….
Saturday
night.
We
were
in
a
nightclub
in
Accrington
I
won’t
mention
any
names
and
some
guy
said
to
us…
one
of
the
lads
said
we’re
going
to
one
of
these
Acid
House
parties
and
it
was
probably
the
first
the
second
one
there
ever
was
around
here.
and
we
ended
up
in
there
and
from
then
on
that.
were
it
there
were no
looking
back
that were it
I
was
I
remember
saying
to
myself
this
is
going
to
catch
on
because
it
was
such
a
contrast
from
traditional
pubs
and
clubs
and
everything
else
and
it
obviously
they
were
you
know,
stimulants
involved
and
such
like
but
I
just
thought
of
this
is
going
to
take
off
and
it
did
do
you
know,
So
which
venue
is
this
which
was
the
second
one?
I
can
only
vaguely
remember
it
was
somewhere
at
the
back
end
the
Blackburn.
I were
just
talking
to
Tom here.
I
think
it were
back of
Sett
End
at
top
of
Blackburn
it
wasn’t
the
Live
The
Dream
one
that
was
after
I
think
I
think
these
will
before
and
then
there
was
an
outfit
from
Accrington
that
started
cloning
them
and
they
try
to
put
parties
on
in
and
around
Accrington
and
there
was
one
up
at
Broad
Oak
and
the
contrast
the
clashed
for
a
little
while
for
a
couple
months
and
then
they
fizzled
out
and
I think
they
joined
forces
or
whatever
and
then
it
went
off
from
there
and
we
used
to
just
we
traveled
all
round
Northwest
every
Saturday
night
for
probably
until
I
think
some
of
the
last
ones
were
the
Lammock
ones
which
Dave
France
was
at
it
were
operation
Alkaline
which
was
the
police
operation
to
repel
Acid…
Acid
House
and
that
was
one
of
the
last
ones
after
that
they
started
to
die
out.

David B Bad Memories

Click to play

So
do
you
have
any
bad
memories
of
the
time
ever..
people
talk
about
it in a
really
positive way
but are
there
any
memories
that
you
know…
for
this
archive
….
you
think
actually
that
wasn’t
a
great
time?
I
was
just
talking
to
Tommy
in
there…
there
was
gratuitous
levels
of
violence
on
the
door,
which
I
remember
I
remember..
I were only
talking
the
about
one
time…
we
were
in
Blackburn
and
the
rave
scene
were
going
off
and
they used
to
collect
money
in
a
black
bin
bag
on
the
door
and
at
it…
a
car
pulled
up
and
a
team
of
lads
jumps
out
with
balaclavas
and
baseball
batted
….
all
the
lads
on
the
door
took
the
money
and
we
remember
seeing
that
obviously
we
were,
you
know
involved
in
the…
we
were
high
at
the
time.
It
weren’t
a
pretty
good
thing
to
see
and
then
towards
the
end
of
the
parties
when
people
are
getting
kicked
out…
the
you
can
call them
door
staff…
the
bouncers
whatever
they
were
they
were
pretty
hands on
at
you
know…
doing
what
they
were
doing.
So
that
were
that…
but
overall
I
haven’t
really
got
any
bad
memories
of
it
at
all.
The
only
thing
that
I
think
is
negative
that’s
come
out
is
that
a
lot
of
people
from
that
era
started
taking
drugs
and
enjoying
the
scene.
They
never
got
off.
They
never
they
never
stopped
and
one
casualty
being
a
chap
who
passed
on
a
couple
weeks
ago.
You
probably
know
yourself
it
were all
over
Facebook
what
that
kind
of
thing…
It
were
a
great
scene.
the
only
negative
side
is
some
people
never
stopped
they
didn’t
they
never
came
down
from
it.
Now Playing:
David B
Bad memories. (1:12 mins)
David B
Good memories. (1:09 mins)

Full Transcript:

So
do
you
have
any
bad
memories
of
the
time
ever..
people
talk
about
it in a
really
positive way
but are
there
any
memories
that
you
know…
for
this
archive
….
you
think
actually
that
wasn’t
a
great
time?
I
was
just
talking
to
Tommy
in
there…
there
was
gratuitous
levels
of
violence
on
the
door,
which
I
remember
I
remember..
I were only
talking
the
about
one
time…
we
were
in
Blackburn
and
the
rave
scene
were
going
off
and
they used
to
collect
money
in
a
black
bin
bag
on
the
door
and
at
it…
a
car
pulled
up
and
a
team
of
lads
jumps
out
with
balaclavas
and
baseball
batted
….
all
the
lads
on
the
door
took
the
money
and
we
remember
seeing
that
obviously
we
were,
you
know
involved
in
the…
we
were
high
at
the
time.
It
weren’t
a
pretty
good
thing
to
see
and
then
towards
the
end
of
the
parties
when
people
are
getting
kicked
out…
the
you
can
call them
door
staff…
the
bouncers
whatever
they
were
they
were
pretty
hands on
at
you
know…
doing
what
they
were
doing.
So
that
were
that…
but
overall
I
haven’t
really
got
any
bad
memories
of
it
at
all.
The
only
thing
that
I
think
is
negative
that’s
come
out
is
that
a
lot
of
people
from
that
era
started
taking
drugs
and
enjoying
the
scene.
They
never
got
off.
They
never
they
never
stopped
and
one
casualty
being
a
chap
who
passed
on
a
couple
weeks
ago.
You
probably
know
yourself
it
were all
over
Facebook
what
that
kind
of
thing…
It
were
a
great
scene.
the
only
negative
side
is
some
people
never
stopped
they
didn’t
they
never
came
down
from
it.

David B Good Memories

Click to play

What are
your
best
memories
of
the
times?
It
was
the
overwhelming
sense
of
that
many
people
together
at
one…
which
I
think
has
been
eroded
ever
since
in
whatever
culture
and
then
from
that,
the
music
obviously
something
that’d
never
been
there
before.
I’ve
been
a
DJ
for
a
living
for
35-40
years
and
it
was…
it
wer’
completely
brand new
the
the
sounds
and
the
mixture
of
Hip-Hop
German.
European
Electronic
music
that
merged
together
and
eclectic
mix
that
the
DJs
picked
out
to
create
that
scene.
It
was
neither
Electronica
or
Dub
It
was
nothing.
It
was
the
moment
that
these
guys
put
this
music
together
to
create
that
Acid
House
scene.
It
was
Acid
House
and
then
it
kind
of
morphed
into
the
rave
scene
which
wasn’t
really
what
Acid
House
was
it
were
completely
that
was
that
had
a life
of
it’s
own
and
obviously
musical
genres
went
off
in
different…
different
directions,
but
the
Acid
House
scene
itself
was
that
specific
mixture
of
music
at
that
time
from
all
around
the
world.
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David B
Good memories. (1:09 mins)
David B
Life afterwards. (39 secs)

Full Transcript:

What are
your
best
memories
of
the
times?
It
was
the
overwhelming
sense
of
that
many
people
together
at
one…
which
I
think
has
been
eroded
ever
since
in
whatever
culture
and
then
from
that,
the
music
obviously
something
that’d
never
been
there
before.
I’ve
been
a
DJ
for
a
living
for
35-40
years
and
it
was…
it
wer’
completely
brand new
the
the
sounds
and
the
mixture
of
Hip-Hop
German.
European
Electronic
music
that
merged
together
and
eclectic
mix
that
the
DJs
picked
out
to
create
that
scene.
It
was
neither
Electronica
or
Dub
It
was
nothing.
It
was
the
moment
that
these
guys
put
this
music
together
to
create
that
Acid
House
scene.
It
was
Acid
House
and
then
it
kind
of
morphed
into
the
rave
scene
which
wasn’t
really
what
Acid
House
was
it
were
completely
that
was
that
had
a life
of
it’s
own
and
obviously
musical
genres
went
off
in
different…
different
directions,
but
the
Acid
House
scene
itself
was
that
specific
mixture
of
music
at
that
time
from
all
around
the
world.

David B Life Afterwards

Click to play

What
did
you
do
after?
I
made
a
living
for
25
years
playing
the
records
and
playing
the
music
which
you
know
from
the
Acid
House
scene
I
went
on
to
become
a
DJ
which
I
were
sames as
Nige,
Nige,
and
I
did
the
same
for
you
know,
for
20-odd
years.
We
played
pubs
and
clubs
around
Blackburn
Burnley
all
round
North West
of
England
I produce
music
I
had
records
out
myself.
So
it’s
kind
of
I were
blessed
to
be
in those
warehouses
at
that
time
to
influence
the
musical
knowledge
I
had
from
there,
which
is…
I still
do…
just
I
have
today
from
all
kinds
of
different
musical
genres
that
we
used…
gave
me
a
skill
and
I
went
on
to
make
a
living
out
of
it
for
25
30
years.
Now Playing:
David B
Life afterwards. (39 secs)
David B
Advice for future generations. (1:32 mins)

Full Transcript:

What
did
you
do
after?
I
made
a
living
for
25
years
playing
the
records
and
playing
the
music
which
you
know
from
the
Acid
House
scene
I
went
on
to
become
a
DJ
which
I
were
sames as
Nige,
Nige,
and
I
did
the
same
for
you
know,
for
20-odd
years.
We
played
pubs
and
clubs
around
Blackburn
Burnley
all
round
North West
of
England
I produce
music
I
had
records
out
myself.
So
it’s
kind
of
I were
blessed
to
be
in those
warehouses
at
that
time
to
influence
the
musical
knowledge
I
had
from
there,
which
is…
I still
do…
just
I
have
today
from
all
kinds
of
different
musical
genres
that
we
used…
gave
me
a
skill
and
I
went
on
to
make
a
living
out
of
it
for
25
30
years.

David B Advice For Future Generations

Click to play

In
the
future
like
our
Mitchell
and
Kenyon
archive,
there’s
going
to
be
a
kid
listening
to
all
these
stories
in
hundred
years.
They’re
not
going
to
be
able
to
maybe
imagine
what
it
was
without
these
stories.
If
you
could
say
one
thing
to
a
kid
about
Blackburn
at
that
time
or
a
researcher
or
a
police
or
anyone
what
would
you
say
to
them?
At
that
time…it
It
was
not
just
Blackburn,
Blackburn
Burnley
Accrington
the
scene
itself,
which
created
was
as
cutting
edge
as…
as
anything
the
UK
has
ever
seen
so
much
so…
that
on
a
Sunday
night
in
1990
Pete
Waterman
came
to
Accrington
because…
the Sunday
night
was
the
night
and
in
Accrington
it was when
all
the
Blackburn
DJ’s
like myself…
Gilly
we
all
used
to
play
in
different
bars
in
Accrington
and
so
everybody
came
down,
you
know,
they’ve
been
out
partying
on a
Saturday
night
and
Pete
Waterman
actually
came
down
from
London
to
Accrington
and
said,
this
is
more
cutting
edge
than
Soho
in
London
at
the
time
in
Accrington
the
people
so
cool.
and
you
know
the
way
they
were
dressed…
what
they
were
dancing
to
and
everything
else.
That’s
what
it
was
and
it’s
being
a part
of
that
and
always
having
a
sense
of
always
looking
back
and
knowing
that
you
were
part
of
that
you
were
in
it
and
you
can
never
he explained.
We
just
talked
to
a
girl
in
there
about
the
Madchester
scene
and
the
M25
orbital
raves
and
everything
else.
They
were
all
after the
Blackburn
raves
the
Blackburn
raves
started
that’s
where
it
that’s
where
it
started
from.
You
know,
that’s
A
Guy
Called
Gerald
Voodoo
Ray
that
track
would
never
have
been
not
as
big
as
it
was
if
it
weren’t
for
the
Blackburn
raves
they
say
it
were all
Madchester
but
it
weren’t
it were
played in
Blackburn
it were
played in
Manhattan’s
it
were
played,
you
know
in
Darwen
and
places
like
that
before
hand.
Now Playing:
David B
Advice for future generations. (1:32 mins)
David B
Full interview. (6:13 mins)

Full Transcript:

In
the
future
like
our
Mitchell
and
Kenyon
archive,
there’s
going
to
be
a
kid
listening
to
all
these
stories
in
hundred
years.
They’re
not
going
to
be
able
to
maybe
imagine
what
it
was
without
these
stories.
If
you
could
say
one
thing
to
a
kid
about
Blackburn
at
that
time
or
a
researcher
or
a
police
or
anyone
what
would
you
say
to
them?
At
that
time…it
It
was
not
just
Blackburn,
Blackburn
Burnley
Accrington
the
scene
itself,
which
created
was
as
cutting
edge
as…
as
anything
the
UK
has
ever
seen
so
much
so…
that
on
a
Sunday
night
in
1990
Pete
Waterman
came
to
Accrington
because…
the Sunday
night
was
the
night
and
in
Accrington
it was when
all
the
Blackburn
DJ’s
like myself…
Gilly
we
all
used
to
play
in
different
bars
in
Accrington
and
so
everybody
came
down,
you
know,
they’ve
been
out
partying
on a
Saturday
night
and
Pete
Waterman
actually
came
down
from
London
to
Accrington
and
said,
this
is
more
cutting
edge
than
Soho
in
London
at
the
time
in
Accrington
the
people
so
cool.
and
you
know
the
way
they
were
dressed…
what
they
were
dancing
to
and
everything
else.
That’s
what
it
was
and
it’s
being
a part
of
that
and
always
having
a
sense
of
always
looking
back
and
knowing
that
you
were
part
of
that
you
were
in
it
and
you
can
never
he explained.
We
just
talked
to
a
girl
in
there
about
the
Madchester
scene
and
the
M25
orbital
raves
and
everything
else.
They
were
all
after the
Blackburn
raves
the
Blackburn
raves
started
that’s
where
it
that’s
where
it
started
from.
You
know,
that’s
A
Guy
Called
Gerald
Voodoo
Ray
that
track
would
never
have
been
not
as
big
as
it
was
if
it
weren’t
for
the
Blackburn
raves
they
say
it
were all
Madchester
but
it
weren’t
it were
played in
Blackburn
it were
played in
Manhattan’s
it
were
played,
you
know
in
Darwen
and
places
like
that
before
hand.

David B Full Interview

Click to play

Okay,
tell
us
how
you
got
involved.
Well,
it
all
started
out
on
a,
was
it,
on
a
Saturday
night.
We
were
in
a
nightclub
in
Accrington.
I
won’t
mention
any
names
and
some
guy
said
it
was,
one
of
the
lads
said
we’re
going
to
one
of
these
acid
house
parties
and
it
was
probably
the
first,
the
second
one
there
ever
was
around
here
and
we
ended
up
in
there
and
from
then
on
that
were
it
there
were no
looking
back.
It
were,
I
was,
I
remember
saying
to
myself…
This
is
going
to
catch
on
because
it
was
such
a
contrast
from
traditional
pubs
and
clubs
and
everything
else
and
it
obviously
they
were
you
know,
stimulants
involved
and
such like
but
it,
I
just
thought
this
is
going
to
take
off,
and
it
did
do
you
know.
So
which
venue
is
this.
Which
was
the
second
one?
I
can
only
vaguely
remember
it
was
somewhere
at
the
back
end
of
Blackburn.
I were
just
talking
to
Tommy.
I
think
it
were
the
back
of
Sett
End
at
top
of
Blackburn.
It
wasn’t
the
Live
the
Dream
one.
That
was
after
I
think,
I
think
these
were
before
and
then
there
was
an
outfit
from
Accrington
that
started
cloning
em.
And
they
tried
to
put
parties
on
in
and
around
Accrington.
There
were
one
up
at
Broad
Oak,
and
the
contrast,
they
clashed
for
a
little
while,
for
a
couple
months.
And
then
they
fizzled
out
and
think
they
joined
forces
or
whatever
and
then
it
went
off
from
there
and
we
used
to
just
we
traveled
or
at
Northwest
every
Saturday
night
for
probably,
until
I
think
some
of
the
last
ones
were
the
Lomeshaye
one.
Which
Dave
France
were
at,
it
were
operation
Alkali,
which
was
the
Police
operation
to
repel
acid,
acid
house.
And
that
were one
of
the
last
ones
after
that
they
started
to
die
out.
What
your
best
memories
of
the
times?
It
was
the
overwhelming
sense
of
that
many
people
together
at
once,
which
I
think
has
been
eroded
ever
since
in
whatever
culture
and
then
from
that
the
music
obviously
was
something
that had
never
been
heard
before.
I’ve
been
a
DJ
for
a
living
for
35-40
years
and
it
was
it
were
completely
brand new.
The,
the
sounds
and
the
mixture
of
hip-hop
German
European
electronic
music.
The
merge
together
and
eclectic
mix
that
the
DJ’s
picked
out
to
create
that
scene.
It
was
neither
electronic
or
dub,
it
was
nothing.
It
was
the
moment
that
these
guys
put
this
music
together
to
create
that
acid
house
scene.
It
was
acid
house.
And
then
it
kind
of
morphed
into
the
rave
scene
which
wasn’t
really
what
acid
house
was.
It
were
completely,
That
was,
that had
a
life
of
it’s
own,
and
obviously
musical
genres
went
off
in
different
different
directions,
but
the
acid
house
scene
itself
was
that
specific
mixture
of
music
at
that
time
from
all
around
the
world.
So
do
you
have
any
bad
memories
of
the
time?
people
talk
about
it in a
really
positive
way,
but
are
there
any
memories
that
you
know
for
this
archive
where
you
think
actually
that
wasn’t
a
great
time?
I
were
just
talking
to
Tommy
in
there.
There
was
gratuitous
levels
of
violence
on
the
door,
which
I
remember
I
remember
only
talking
about
one
time
we
were
in
Blackburn
and
the
rave
scene
were
going
on
and they’d
collect
money
in a
black
bin bag.
On
the
door
and
a
car
pulled
up
and
a
team
of
lads
jumps
out
with
balaclavas
and
baseball
batted
all
the
lads
on
the
door
and
took
the
money.
And
we
remember
seeing
that
obviously
we
were
you
know
involved
in
the
we
were
high
at
the
time.
It
weren’t
a
pretty
good
thing
to
see
and
then
towards
the
end
of
the
parties
when
people
are
getting
kicked
out
the
you
can’t
call em
door
staff,
the
bouncers
whatever
they
were.
They
were
pretty
hands
on
you
know,
doing
what
they
were
doing.
So
that
were
that.
But
overall
I
haven’t
really
got
any
bad
memories
of
it
at
all.
The
only
thing
that
I
think
is
negative
as
come out of
it is that
a
lot
of
people
from
that
era
started
taking
drugs
and
enjoying
the
scene
and never
got
off.
They
never
they
never
stopped
and
one
casualty
being
a
chap
who
passed
on
a
couple
weeks
ago,
you
probably
know
yourself
it
were all
over
Facebook.
That
kind
of
thing,
it
were
a
great
scene,
the
only
negative
side
is
some
people
never
stopped
it
and
they
never
came
down
from
it.
What
did
you
do
after?
I
made
a
living
for
25
years
playing
the
records
and
playing
the
music
which
you
know
from
the
acid
house
scene
I
went
on
to
become
a DJ
which
I
were,
same
as
Nige,
Nige did
the
same
for
you
know
for
20-odd
years,
we
played
clubs
and
pubs
around
Blackburn,
Burnley
or
at
Northwest
of
England,
I produced
music.
I
had me own
records
out
myself.
So
the,
it
kind
of,
I was
blessed
to
be
in those
warehouses
at
that
time
to
influence
the
musical
knowledge
I
had
from
there
which
I
still
do,
which
I still
have
today
from
all
kinds
of
different
musical
genres
that
we
used,
gave
me
a
skill
and
I
went
on
to
make
a
living
out
of
it
for
25
30
years.
In
the
future
like
are
Mitchell
and Kenyon
archive.
There’s
going
to
be
a
kid
listening
to
all
these
stories
in
100
years.
They’re
not
going
to
be
able
to
maybe
imagine
what
it
was
without
these
stories.
If
you
could
say
one
thing
to
a
kid
about
Blackburn
at
that
time
or
a
researcher
or
a
police
or
anyone,
what
would
you
say
to
em?
At
that
time,
it
was
not
just
Blackburn.
Blackburn,
Burnley,
Accrington.
The
scene
itself,
which
created
was
as
cutting
edge
as
as
anything
the
UK
has
ever
seen
so
much
so
that
on
a
Sunday
night
in
1990,
Pete
Waterman
came
to
Accrington
because
Sunday
night
was
the
night
in
Accrington
where
all
the
Blackburn
DJ’s
myself,
Gilly
We
all
used
to
play
in
different
bars
in
Accrington.
And
so
everybody
came
down,
you
know,
they’ve
been
out
partying
Saturday
night
and
Pete
Waterman
actually
came
down
from
London
to
Accrington
and
said,
this
is
more
cutting
edge
than
Soho
in
London.
At
the
time.
In
Accrington
and
people
were so
cool.
You
know
the
way
they
were
dressed
what
they
were
dancing
to
and
everything
else.
That’s
what
it
was
and
it’s
been
part
of
that
and
always
having
a
sense
of
always
looking
back
and
knowing
that
you
were
part
of
that
you
were
you
were
in
it
and
you
can
never
explain.
We
just
talked
to
a
girl
in
there
about
the
Manchester
scene
and
the
M25
Orbital
raves
and
everything
else.
They
were
all
after
Blackburn
raves.
The
Blackburn
raves
started
it
and
that’s
where
it
gets
really
started
from.
You
know,
that’s
a
guy
called
Gerald,
Voodoo
Ray,
that
track
would
never
have
been
as
big
as
it
was
if
it
weren’t
for
the
Blackburn
raves.
They
say it
were
all
Manchester,
but
it
weren’t
it
were played
in Blackburn,
it
were
played in
Manhattan
Heights
played,
you
know
in
Darwen
and
places
like
that
before
hand.
Now Playing:
David B
Full interview. (6:13 mins)
Dameoon
Getting involved part 1. (1:16 mins)

Full Transcript:

Okay,
tell
us
how
you
got
involved.
Well,
it
all
started
out
on
a,
was
it,
on
a
Saturday
night.
We
were
in
a
nightclub
in
Accrington.
I
won’t
mention
any
names
and
some
guy
said
it
was,
one
of
the
lads
said
we’re
going
to
one
of
these
acid
house
parties
and
it
was
probably
the
first,
the
second
one
there
ever
was
around
here
and
we
ended
up
in
there
and
from
then
on
that
were
it
there
were no
looking
back.
It
were,
I
was,
I
remember
saying
to
myself…
This
is
going
to
catch
on
because
it
was
such
a
contrast
from
traditional
pubs
and
clubs
and
everything
else
and
it
obviously
they
were
you
know,
stimulants
involved
and
such like
but
it,
I
just
thought
this
is
going
to
take
off,
and
it
did
do
you
know.
So
which
venue
is
this.
Which
was
the
second
one?
I
can
only
vaguely
remember
it
was
somewhere
at
the
back
end
of
Blackburn.
I were
just
talking
to
Tommy.
I
think
it
were
the
back
of
Sett
End
at
top
of
Blackburn.
It
wasn’t
the
Live
the
Dream
one.
That
was
after
I
think,
I
think
these
were
before
and
then
there
was
an
outfit
from
Accrington
that
started
cloning
em.
And
they
tried
to
put
parties
on
in
and
around
Accrington.
There
were
one
up
at
Broad
Oak,
and
the
contrast,
they
clashed
for
a
little
while,
for
a
couple
months.
And
then
they
fizzled
out
and
think
they
joined
forces
or
whatever
and
then
it
went
off
from
there
and
we
used
to
just
we
traveled
or
at
Northwest
every
Saturday
night
for
probably,
until
I
think
some
of
the
last
ones
were
the
Lomeshaye
one.
Which
Dave
France
were
at,
it
were
operation
Alkali,
which
was
the
Police
operation
to
repel
acid,
acid
house.
And
that
were one
of
the
last
ones
after
that
they
started
to
die
out.
What
your
best
memories
of
the
times?
It
was
the
overwhelming
sense
of
that
many
people
together
at
once,
which
I
think
has
been
eroded
ever
since
in
whatever
culture
and
then
from
that
the
music
obviously
was
something
that had
never
been
heard
before.
I’ve
been
a
DJ
for
a
living
for
35-40
years
and
it
was
it
were
completely
brand new.
The,
the
sounds
and
the
mixture
of
hip-hop
German
European
electronic
music.
The
merge
together
and
eclectic
mix
that
the
DJ’s
picked
out
to
create
that
scene.
It
was
neither
electronic
or
dub,
it
was
nothing.
It
was
the
moment
that
these
guys
put
this
music
together
to
create
that
acid
house
scene.
It
was
acid
house.
And
then
it
kind
of
morphed
into
the
rave
scene
which
wasn’t
really
what
acid
house
was.
It
were
completely,
That
was,
that had
a
life
of
it’s
own,
and
obviously
musical
genres
went
off
in
different
different
directions,
but
the
acid
house
scene
itself
was
that
specific
mixture
of
music
at
that
time
from
all
around
the
world.
So
do
you
have
any
bad
memories
of
the
time?
people
talk
about
it in a
really
positive
way,
but
are
there
any
memories
that
you
know
for
this
archive
where
you
think
actually
that
wasn’t
a
great
time?
I
were
just
talking
to
Tommy
in
there.
There
was
gratuitous
levels
of
violence
on
the
door,
which
I
remember
I
remember
only
talking
about
one
time
we
were
in
Blackburn
and
the
rave
scene
were
going
on
and they’d
collect
money
in a
black
bin bag.
On
the
door
and
a
car
pulled
up
and
a
team
of
lads
jumps
out
with
balaclavas
and
baseball
batted
all
the
lads
on
the
door
and
took
the
money.
And
we
remember
seeing
that
obviously
we
were
you
know
involved
in
the
we
were
high
at
the
time.
It
weren’t
a
pretty
good
thing
to
see
and
then
towards
the
end
of
the
parties
when
people
are
getting
kicked
out
the
you
can’t
call em
door
staff,
the
bouncers
whatever
they
were.
They
were
pretty
hands
on
you
know,
doing
what
they
were
doing.
So
that
were
that.
But
overall
I
haven’t
really
got
any
bad
memories
of
it
at
all.
The
only
thing
that
I
think
is
negative
as
come out of
it is that
a
lot
of
people
from
that
era
started
taking
drugs
and
enjoying
the
scene
and never
got
off.
They
never
they
never
stopped
and
one
casualty
being
a
chap
who
passed
on
a
couple
weeks
ago,
you
probably
know
yourself
it
were all
over
Facebook.
That
kind
of
thing,
it
were
a
great
scene,
the
only
negative
side
is
some
people
never
stopped
it
and
they
never
came
down
from
it.
What
did
you
do
after?
I
made
a
living
for
25
years
playing
the
records
and
playing
the
music
which
you
know
from
the
acid
house
scene
I
went
on
to
become
a DJ
which
I
were,
same
as
Nige,
Nige did
the
same
for
you
know
for
20-odd
years,
we
played
clubs
and
pubs
around
Blackburn,
Burnley
or
at
Northwest
of
England,
I produced
music.
I
had me own
records
out
myself.
So
the,
it
kind
of,
I was
blessed
to
be
in those
warehouses
at
that
time
to
influence
the
musical
knowledge
I
had
from
there
which
I
still
do,
which
I still
have
today
from
all
kinds
of
different
musical
genres
that
we
used,
gave
me
a
skill
and
I
went
on
to
make
a
living
out
of
it
for
25
30
years.
In
the
future
like
are
Mitchell
and Kenyon
archive.
There’s
going
to
be
a
kid
listening
to
all
these
stories
in
100
years.
They’re
not
going
to
be
able
to
maybe
imagine
what
it
was
without
these
stories.
If
you
could
say
one
thing
to
a
kid
about
Blackburn
at
that
time
or
a
researcher
or
a
police
or
anyone,
what
would
you
say
to
em?
At
that
time,
it
was
not
just
Blackburn.
Blackburn,
Burnley,
Accrington.
The
scene
itself,
which
created
was
as
cutting
edge
as
as
anything
the
UK
has
ever
seen
so
much
so
that
on
a
Sunday
night
in
1990,
Pete
Waterman
came
to
Accrington
because
Sunday
night
was
the
night
in
Accrington
where
all
the
Blackburn
DJ’s
myself,
Gilly
We
all
used
to
play
in
different
bars
in
Accrington.
And
so
everybody
came
down,
you
know,
they’ve
been
out
partying
Saturday
night
and
Pete
Waterman
actually
came
down
from
London
to
Accrington
and
said,
this
is
more
cutting
edge
than
Soho
in
London.
At
the
time.
In
Accrington
and
people
were so
cool.
You
know
the
way
they
were
dressed
what
they
were
dancing
to
and
everything
else.
That’s
what
it
was
and
it’s
been
part
of
that
and
always
having
a
sense
of
always
looking
back
and
knowing
that
you
were
part
of
that
you
were
you
were
in
it
and
you
can
never
explain.
We
just
talked
to
a
girl
in
there
about
the
Manchester
scene
and
the
M25
Orbital
raves
and
everything
else.
They
were
all
after
Blackburn
raves.
The
Blackburn
raves
started
it
and
that’s
where
it
gets
really
started
from.
You
know,
that’s
a
guy
called
Gerald,
Voodoo
Ray,
that
track
would
never
have
been
as
big
as
it
was
if
it
weren’t
for
the
Blackburn
raves.
They
say it
were
all
Manchester,
but
it
weren’t
it
were played
in Blackburn,
it
were
played in
Manhattan
Heights
played,
you
know
in
Darwen
and
places
like
that
before
hand.

David F Getting Involved Part 1

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How
old
were
you
at the
time?
Around
about
40
How
did
you
get
involved
David?
Well,
I
was
uniform
inspector
at
Blackburn
and
obviously
when
we
were
on
nights
these
things
were
happening.
And
so
it
was
it
was
just
a…
how
should
we
say?
as
err
regarding
policing,
and
the
people
of
Blackburn,
it
was
something
which
the
youngsters
enjoyed,
but
the
residents
didn’t.
Because
there
were
1000s
of
cars
coming
in
to
Blackburn.
From
all
over
and
of
course
the
residents
with
the
tooting
of
horns
and
loud
music.
It
was
a
disturbance.
I
don’t
say
that
I
don’t
agree
with
the
parties,
but
the
people
that
attended
them
put
themselves
in
danger
because
of
the
situation.
They
were
going
into
Mills
where
there
was
electrics
and
all
sorts
and
all
though
some
were
probably
electricians,
*laughs*
it
is
a
danger
to
themselves.
Were
you
involved
from
the
beginning?
what’re
your
memories
about
whole
process
from
the
start
of
it
right
through
to
these
huge
events?
What
are
your
memories?
Yeah.
Well
mine
was
only
from
the
point
of
view
of
Blackburn
and
obviously
I
wasn’t
always
on
duty
when
they
took
place,
but
I
seemed
to
be
on
duty
when
a
lot
took
place.
I
didn’t
have
any
problems
with
it.
I
didn’t
particularly
like
the
music
because
I
was
brought
up
in
the
60s.
But
it
seemed
to
be
just
one
beat
boom
boom
boom
all
the
time.
And
in
fact,
I
walked
through
1
or
2
of
the
parties
that
went
on.
Which
you
can
imagine.
I
was
in
full
uniform
and
I
wandered
through
and
I
was
actually…
I
wasn’t
shouted
at
it
was
people
were
having
a
happy
time,
but
I
know
I
spoke
to
1
or
2
since
and
it
was
all
about
drugs.
Well
I
mean
in
the
60s
purple
hearts
and
things
like
this
where
it
was
just
the
society
at
that
time,
you
looked
everybody
experimented.
I
suppose
but
my
own
personal
opinion
was
it
there
was
some
enjoyment
from
the
people
that
went
but
there
was
a
lot
of
parents
who
didn’t
know
the
kids
were
borrowing
their
cars
and
they
were
coming
in
here
and
I
can
remember
on
one
occasion
Whitebirk
Drive
is
a
dual
carriageway
and
there
were
cars
on
either
side
going
the
same
way.
And
I’m
not
talking
about
just
1
or
2
cars.
They
were
4
and
5
abreast
going
up
the
dual
carriageway
to a
venue
which
unfortunately
for
them
had I
found
and
took
all
the
equipment !
That
was
on
Phillips
Road,
but
it
was
it
was
just
from
the
policing
point
of
view.
It
was
a
nightmare
because
there
were
so
many
people
I
knew
what
was
going
on
because
there
were
1
or
2
people
that
would
whisper
it
to
me
about
where
they
were
going
but
there were
decoy
cars
going
this
way
and
decoy
cars
going
that
way
to
take
the
police
away
and
I
believe…
I
believe…
and
I
can’t
prove
this
that
somebody
rang
the
police
station
up
and
said
there’s
a
big
fight
in
Blackburn
centre.
So
all
the
police
cars
that
were
following
were
diverted
into
Blackburn
as
a
result
of
a
shall
We
say
a
false.
call.
Now Playing:
David F
Getting involved part 1. (3:44 mins)
David F
Getting involved part 2. (2:17 mins)

Full Transcript:

How
old
were
you
at the
time?
Around
about
40
How
did
you
get
involved
David?
Well,
I
was
uniform
inspector
at
Blackburn
and
obviously
when
we
were
on
nights
these
things
were
happening.
And
so
it
was
it
was
just
a…
how
should
we
say?
as
err
regarding
policing,
and
the
people
of
Blackburn,
it
was
something
which
the
youngsters
enjoyed,
but
the
residents
didn’t.
Because
there
were
1000s
of
cars
coming
in
to
Blackburn.
From
all
over
and
of
course
the
residents
with
the
tooting
of
horns
and
loud
music.
It
was
a
disturbance.
I
don’t
say
that
I
don’t
agree
with
the
parties,
but
the
people
that
attended
them
put
themselves
in
danger
because
of
the
situation.
They
were
going
into
Mills
where
there
was
electrics
and
all
sorts
and
all
though
some
were
probably
electricians,
*laughs*
it
is
a
danger
to
themselves.
Were
you
involved
from
the
beginning?
what’re
your
memories
about
whole
process
from
the
start
of
it
right
through
to
these
huge
events?
What
are
your
memories?
Yeah.
Well
mine
was
only
from
the
point
of
view
of
Blackburn
and
obviously
I
wasn’t
always
on
duty
when
they
took
place,
but
I
seemed
to
be
on
duty
when
a
lot
took
place.
I
didn’t
have
any
problems
with
it.
I
didn’t
particularly
like
the
music
because
I
was
brought
up
in
the
60s.
But
it
seemed
to
be
just
one
beat
boom
boom
boom
all
the
time.
And
in
fact,
I
walked
through
1
or
2
of
the
parties
that
went
on.
Which
you
can
imagine.
I
was
in
full
uniform
and
I
wandered
through
and
I
was
actually…
I
wasn’t
shouted
at
it
was
people
were
having
a
happy
time,
but
I
know
I
spoke
to
1
or
2
since
and
it
was
all
about
drugs.
Well
I
mean
in
the
60s
purple
hearts
and
things
like
this
where
it
was
just
the
society
at
that
time,
you
looked
everybody
experimented.
I
suppose
but
my
own
personal
opinion
was
it
there
was
some
enjoyment
from
the
people
that
went
but
there
was
a
lot
of
parents
who
didn’t
know
the
kids
were
borrowing
their
cars
and
they
were
coming
in
here
and
I
can
remember
on
one
occasion
Whitebirk
Drive
is
a
dual
carriageway
and
there
were
cars
on
either
side
going
the
same
way.
And
I’m
not
talking
about
just
1
or
2
cars.
They
were
4
and
5
abreast
going
up
the
dual
carriageway
to a
venue
which
unfortunately
for
them
had I
found
and
took
all
the
equipment !
That
was
on
Phillips
Road,
but
it
was
it
was
just
from
the
policing
point
of
view.
It
was
a
nightmare
because
there
were
so
many
people
I
knew
what
was
going
on
because
there
were
1
or
2
people
that
would
whisper
it
to
me
about
where
they
were
going
but
there were
decoy
cars
going
this
way
and
decoy
cars
going
that
way
to
take
the
police
away
and
I
believe…
I
believe…
and
I
can’t
prove
this
that
somebody
rang
the
police
station
up
and
said
there’s
a
big
fight
in
Blackburn
centre.
So
all
the
police
cars
that
were
following
were
diverted
into
Blackburn
as
a
result
of
a
shall
We
say
a
false.
call.

David F Getting Involved Part 2

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What
was
your
err
personal
experience
Dave
you
seem
tolerant
and
very
pragmatic.
What
was
the
direction
for
you
at
work?
What
was
the
what
was
the
official
approach
to
the
parties?
It
was
to
find
out
where
they
were
and
stop
them
because
as
I
say
that
the
the
dangers
that
the
people
that
were
attending
them
they
just
didn’t
seem
to
realise
but
an
old
mill
as
I
say
that
there
are
all
sorts
of
dangers,
so
not
only
were
we
bothered
about
the
people
of
Blackburn…
we
were
bothered
about
the
welfare
of
the
people
who
come
into
the
parties.
So
it
was
a
double
edged
sword
really
one
we’ve
got
to
police
it
and
another
we’ve
got
to
be
mindful
of
the
people
that
were
attending
and
the
damage
that
they
could
cause
themselves
Numbers ?
1000s
1000s
the
venues
weren’t..
weren’t
such
that
you
can
get
1000s
in
but
as
I
say
the
number
of
people
that
came
in
from
all
over
the
place
because
we
stopped
cars
and
they
were
from
all
over…
their
parents
cars
and
their
own
cars
it
was
1000s
y’know
but
it
was
it
was
like
a
Saturday
afternoon
at
times
in
Blackburn
because
there
were
cars
coming
from
all
over
and
were
stopping
and
saying
well,
where
is
the
venue ?
You
know,
where
is
it?
How
can
we
get
there?
And
yeah,
it
wasn’t…
it
wasn’t
bad
and
I
think..
So
the
drugs
problem
at
that
time
was
such
that
everybody
well,
not
everybody
that’s
wrong
but
there
were
quite
a
lot
involved
with
selling
drugs
and
one
thing
an’other
to
the
people
that
were
going
and
it
only
in
the
last
2
weeks
I’ve
spoken
to
people
I
went
to
a
function
errr
that
were
attending
these
and
they
said
0.95
of
it
was
drugs
because
you
went
into
a
venue
and
people
were
drinking
lemonade
and
Coca Cola
There
was
no
beer
at
all.
So,
you
know,
it
was
just
it
was
an
it
was
a nightmare
to
police
really.
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What
was
your
err
personal
experience
Dave
you
seem
tolerant
and
very
pragmatic.
What
was
the
direction
for
you
at
work?
What
was
the
what
was
the
official
approach
to
the
parties?
It
was
to
find
out
where
they
were
and
stop
them
because
as
I
say
that
the
the
dangers
that
the
people
that
were
attending
them
they
just
didn’t
seem
to
realise
but
an
old
mill
as
I
say
that
there
are
all
sorts
of
dangers,
so
not
only
were
we
bothered
about
the
people
of
Blackburn…
we
were
bothered
about
the
welfare
of
the
people
who
come
into
the
parties.
So
it
was
a
double
edged
sword
really
one
we’ve
got
to
police
it
and
another
we’ve
got
to
be
mindful
of
the
people
that
were
attending
and
the
damage
that
they
could
cause
themselves
Numbers ?
1000s
1000s
the
venues
weren’t..
weren’t
such
that
you
can
get
1000s
in
but
as
I
say
the
number
of
people
that
came
in
from
all
over
the
place
because
we
stopped
cars
and
they
were
from
all
over…
their
parents
cars
and
their
own
cars
it
was
1000s
y’know
but
it
was
it
was
like
a
Saturday
afternoon
at
times
in
Blackburn
because
there
were
cars
coming
from
all
over
and
were
stopping
and
saying
well,
where
is
the
venue ?
You
know,
where
is
it?
How
can
we
get
there?
And
yeah,
it
wasn’t…
it
wasn’t
bad
and
I
think..
So
the
drugs
problem
at
that
time
was
such
that
everybody
well,
not
everybody
that’s
wrong
but
there
were
quite
a
lot
involved
with
selling
drugs
and
one
thing
an’other
to
the
people
that
were
going
and
it
only
in
the
last
2
weeks
I’ve
spoken
to
people
I
went
to
a
function
errr
that
were
attending
these
and
they
said
0.95
of
it
was
drugs
because
you
went
into
a
venue
and
people
were
drinking
lemonade
and
Coca Cola
There
was
no
beer
at
all.
So,
you
know,
it
was
just
it
was
an
it
was
a nightmare
to
police
really.