Mel Good Memories

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what
were
the
best
things
about
the
era
and
what
were
the
good
times
about
it…
the-
the
camaraderie
the
sense
of
community
I
think
previous
to
that
and
I
went
and
whether
this
was
just
because
I
was
and
I’m
talking
for
myself
whether
this
is
just
because
previous
to
this
scene
emerging
near
ours
I
was a
confused
teenager
or
just
whether
it
was
the
state
of…
you
know
that
the
environment
and
the
culture
as
it
was
at
that
time
Acid House Parties
Kind
of
created
this
sense
of
belonging
that
I’d
never
felt
before
I
felt
like
I
was
a
part
of
something
special
something
magical
something
really
really
big
yeah
yeah
and
you
know
the
best
bits
of
it
was
it
was
kind
of
like
we
were
doing
this
thing
that
we
was
so
freeing
and
yeah
condemned
by
everybody
outside
of
it
you
know,
they
all
these
other
people
just
could
not
see
the
beauty
of
what
we
were
doing
but
the
tenacity
of
the
kids
involved
we
just
kept
going
regardless
you
know
it
was
like
we
believed
in
it
and
we
were
going
to
do
it
anyway
you
know
and we
kind
of
had
this
we
weren’t
harming
anyone
you
know
we
were
just
having
fun
and
no
one
was
going
to
stop
us
doing
that because
it
was
all
we
had
It
was
the
only
glimmer
of
hope
in
our
lives
that
we
actually
had
strangely
enough
I
know
that
sounds
quite
dramatic
but
it
was
all
we
had
to
look
forward
to
on
a
weekly
basis
so
yeah
the
best
bits
were
that
the-
the-
the
kind
of
everyone
scrambling
and
the
I
mean
when
you
look
back
on
it
it
was
kind
of
done
in
military
precision
but
I
don’t
think
it
was
actually
planned
like
that
I
think
it
was
just
more
everybody
go
to
this
phone
box
and
dial
this
number
and
make
sure
you’re
not
following
the
decoy
convoy
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
and
you
know
if
you
actually
looked
at it
and
wrote
the
plan
down
on
paper
it
must’ve
it
must
have
looked
so
strategic
but
I
don’t
think
that
that
was
the plan
you
know
I
think
for
a
lot
of
it
was
winged
on
a
daily
on
a
weekly
basis
particularly
in
the beginning
any
way
which
were
my
fondest
memories
my
fondest
memories
were
the
beginning
were
the
beginning
of
the
scene
you
know
so
from
the
Hacienda
we
brought
it
in
to
Blackburn
well
at
the
actually
previous
to
that
we
used
to
go
to
a
nightclub
called
The
Kitchen
in
Moss
Side
which
was
basically
just
a
flat
in
a
block
of
flats
in
Moss
Side
which
was
you
know
and
I
remember
being
in
there
one
night
and
there
was
just
too
many
people
there
wasn’t
enough
room
and
it
was
really
quite
dark
in
there
and
all
these
people
were
all
squashed
and
knowing
what
I
know
now
as
an
adult
It
was
probably
a
massive
fire
hazard
but
we
weren’t
bothered
about
that
we
just
wanted
to
dance
and
i can just
remember
this
guy
grabbing
a
huge
mallet
and
going
‘i’ts
okay
I
can
create
more
room”
and
he
just
smashed
through
the
wall
into
the
next
flat
and
all
of
a
sudden
we
had
twice
the
space
you
know
not
probably
thinking
about
the
damage
or
considering
consequences
as
teenagers
don’t
and
we
just
thought
that
this
was
magnificent
this
guy
was
a
hero
he
created
more
room
for
us
to
party
I’ve
heard
this
story
before
about
the
mallet
in
the
in
the
wall
It’s
just
such
a
wild
time
and
I
think
when
we
talk
to
people
who
are
the
organizers
it
did
sound
like
it
was
pretty
military
the
precision
actually
it
seemed
like
the
the
that
the
planning
for
it
but
getting
thousands
of
people
to
then
act
in
a
military
way
with
it
that
wasn’t
gonna
happen
either
I think there
was
a
wildness
that
yeah
just
sort
of
occurred
and
how
people
managed
to
do
those
things
before
we
had
facebook
and
the
internet
to
communicate
and
it
truly
was
quite
revolutionary
in
its
approach
what
people
did
absolutely
I
think
it
started
off
as
a
very
vague
plan
and
I
think
week
by
week
it
got
more
specific
as
they
as
they
kinda
learned
you
know
the
hurdles
that
they
had
to
jump
and
the
things
they
had
to
avoid
to
make
sure
that
the
party
went
ahead
you
know
and
some
of
the
things
I
saw
to
when
you
know
when
I
talk
about
absolute
tenacity
some
of
the
things
I
saw
to
ensure
that
party
went
ahead
was
just
unbelievable
you
know
I
can
remember
one
night
the
generator
wasn’t
working
in
one
of
the
parties
and
a
couple
of
the
electrician
guys
wired
wired
the
whole
PA
system
and
DJ
set
up
to
the
up
to
the
traffic
lights
outside
you
know
this
massive
absolute
genius
and
there
was
like
thousands
of
people
completely
unaware
that
they
were
you
know
that
the
party
was
being
powered
by
the
lights
outside
and
neither
did
the
police
which
was
you
know
quite
a
one-up-man
for
us
more.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now Playing:
Mel
Good memories. (5:21 mins)
Mel
Bad memories. (3:02 secs)

Full Transcript:

what
were
the
best
things
about
the
era
and
what
were
the
good
times
about
it…
the-
the
camaraderie
the
sense
of
community
I
think
previous
to
that
and
I
went
and
whether
this
was
just
because
I
was
and
I’m
talking
for
myself
whether
this
is
just
because
previous
to
this
scene
emerging
near
ours
I
was a
confused
teenager
or
just
whether
it
was
the
state
of…
you
know
that
the
environment
and
the
culture
as
it
was
at
that
time
Acid House Parties
Kind
of
created
this
sense
of
belonging
that
I’d
never
felt
before
I
felt
like
I
was
a
part
of
something
special
something
magical
something
really
really
big
yeah
yeah
and
you
know
the
best
bits
of
it
was
it
was
kind
of
like
we
were
doing
this
thing
that
we
was
so
freeing
and
yeah
condemned
by
everybody
outside
of
it
you
know,
they
all
these
other
people
just
could
not
see
the
beauty
of
what
we
were
doing
but
the
tenacity
of
the
kids
involved
we
just
kept
going
regardless
you
know
it
was
like
we
believed
in
it
and
we
were
going
to
do
it
anyway
you
know
and we
kind
of
had
this
we
weren’t
harming
anyone
you
know
we
were
just
having
fun
and
no
one
was
going
to
stop
us
doing
that because
it
was
all
we
had
It
was
the
only
glimmer
of
hope
in
our
lives
that
we
actually
had
strangely
enough
I
know
that
sounds
quite
dramatic
but
it
was
all
we
had
to
look
forward
to
on
a
weekly
basis
so
yeah
the
best
bits
were
that
the-
the-
the
kind
of
everyone
scrambling
and
the
I
mean
when
you
look
back
on
it
it
was
kind
of
done
in
military
precision
but
I
don’t
think
it
was
actually
planned
like
that
I
think
it
was
just
more
everybody
go
to
this
phone
box
and
dial
this
number
and
make
sure
you’re
not
following
the
decoy
convoy
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
and
you
know
if
you
actually
looked
at it
and
wrote
the
plan
down
on
paper
it
must’ve
it
must
have
looked
so
strategic
but
I
don’t
think
that
that
was
the plan
you
know
I
think
for
a
lot
of
it
was
winged
on
a
daily
on
a
weekly
basis
particularly
in
the beginning
any
way
which
were
my
fondest
memories
my
fondest
memories
were
the
beginning
were
the
beginning
of
the
scene
you
know
so
from
the
Hacienda
we
brought
it
in
to
Blackburn
well
at
the
actually
previous
to
that
we
used
to
go
to
a
nightclub
called
The
Kitchen
in
Moss
Side
which
was
basically
just
a
flat
in
a
block
of
flats
in
Moss
Side
which
was
you
know
and
I
remember
being
in
there
one
night
and
there
was
just
too
many
people
there
wasn’t
enough
room
and
it
was
really
quite
dark
in
there
and
all
these
people
were
all
squashed
and
knowing
what
I
know
now
as
an
adult
It
was
probably
a
massive
fire
hazard
but
we
weren’t
bothered
about
that
we
just
wanted
to
dance
and
i can just
remember
this
guy
grabbing
a
huge
mallet
and
going
‘i’ts
okay
I
can
create
more
room”
and
he
just
smashed
through
the
wall
into
the
next
flat
and
all
of
a
sudden
we
had
twice
the
space
you
know
not
probably
thinking
about
the
damage
or
considering
consequences
as
teenagers
don’t
and
we
just
thought
that
this
was
magnificent
this
guy
was
a
hero
he
created
more
room
for
us
to
party
I’ve
heard
this
story
before
about
the
mallet
in
the
in
the
wall
It’s
just
such
a
wild
time
and
I
think
when
we
talk
to
people
who
are
the
organizers
it
did
sound
like
it
was
pretty
military
the
precision
actually
it
seemed
like
the
the
that
the
planning
for
it
but
getting
thousands
of
people
to
then
act
in
a
military
way
with
it
that
wasn’t
gonna
happen
either
I think there
was
a
wildness
that
yeah
just
sort
of
occurred
and
how
people
managed
to
do
those
things
before
we
had
facebook
and
the
internet
to
communicate
and
it
truly
was
quite
revolutionary
in
its
approach
what
people
did
absolutely
I
think
it
started
off
as
a
very
vague
plan
and
I
think
week
by
week
it
got
more
specific
as
they
as
they
kinda
learned
you
know
the
hurdles
that
they
had
to
jump
and
the
things
they
had
to
avoid
to
make
sure
that
the
party
went
ahead
you
know
and
some
of
the
things
I
saw
to
when
you
know
when
I
talk
about
absolute
tenacity
some
of
the
things
I
saw
to
ensure
that
party
went
ahead
was
just
unbelievable
you
know
I
can
remember
one
night
the
generator
wasn’t
working
in
one
of
the
parties
and
a
couple
of
the
electrician
guys
wired
wired
the
whole
PA
system
and
DJ
set
up
to
the
up
to
the
traffic
lights
outside
you
know
this
massive
absolute
genius
and
there
was
like
thousands
of
people
completely
unaware
that
they
were
you
know
that
the
party
was
being
powered
by
the
lights
outside
and
neither
did
the
police
which
was
you
know
quite
a
one-up-man
for
us
more.
Yeah.
Yeah.

Mel Getting Involved Part 2

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So
could
you
start
by
just
telling
me
about
how
you
got
involved
with
the
parties
and
how
you’re
going
to
them…
that’s
a
really
good
question
I
suppose
it’s
something
that
kind
of
just
evolved
naturally
you
know
that
the
culture
at
the
time
was
that
there
kind
of
wasn’t
a
lot
of
hope
for
young
people
and
it
was
quite
it
was
really
expensive
to
go
to
university
so
kids
who
were
at
college
were
kind
of
just
doing
that
sort
of
not
work
for
as
long
as
possible
and
the
job
prospects
around
at
the
time
weren’t
great
so
unless
you
were
lucky
enough
to
perhaps
have
an
apprenticeship
most
kids
were
on
like
YTSs
and
stuff
like
that
so
it
was
all
quite
depressing
really
but
there’s
always
been
a
real
strong
sense
of
community
in
Blackburn
and
Darwen
and
I
remember
at
the
time
there
was
lots
of
sort
of
territorial
little
gangs
of
teenagers
from
different
areas
who
were
or
who’re
often
in
conflict
with
each
other
and
around
that
time
we
stuck
under
a
few
of
us
had
started
visiting
a
club in
Manchester
called
the
Hacienda
and
for
me
I
think
that
was
the
beginning
of
it
that
was
sort
of
where
the
love
for
the
party
scene
started
from
you
know
we
saw
this
mus-
we
had
this
music
that
we’d
never
heard
before
yanno
the
music
in
the
church
was
horrendous
at
that
time!
I
saw a
Top
of
the
Pops
from
that
era
a
few
days
ago
actually,
and
it
just
reminded
me
of
how
bad it
was
so
we
were
subjected
to
things
like
Bros
and
please
forgive
me
Matt and Luke Goss
if
he’s
still
alive
or
not…
laughs’
but
you
know,
that’s
that’s
sort
of
what
we were
subject
to
so
previous
to
that
we
particularly
in
Darwen
we
all
used
to
listen
to
music
from
our
previous
peers
before
us
there
was
nothing
sort
of
really
to
call
our
own
other
than
perhaps
New
Order
and
the
indie
music
from
Manchester
that
a
lot
of
us
had
been
into
as
younger
teens.
In
the
late
Eighties
of
the
you
know
the
music
was
shocking
and
then
we
went
to
this
you
know
we
went
to
this
place.
We
went
to
we
went
to
the
Hacienda
and
the
clubs
we’d
been
used
to
were
full
of
teenagers
and
young
adults
wearing
shoulder
pads
and
all
dressed
in
like
something
off
Dallas
you
know
what i
mean
and
we
went
to
this
club
called
the
Hacienda
but
it
was
just
something
absolutely
completely
different
people
was
just
really
really
casual
you
know
there
were
sort
of
no
front
cause
every
other
club
i’d ever
been
in
there
was
this
sort
of
‘i’m
Mr.
Cool”
sort
of
front
going
on
and
there
was
none
of
that
in
the
Hacienda
….people
were
just
dancing
in
all
kinds
of
mad
crazy
ways
and
really
just
sort
of
being
free
and
that
was
really
attractive
that
was
really
attractive
and
that
was
kind
of
the
start
of
it
so
we’d
go
over
in
small
groups
but
that
word
started
to
spread
and
it
became
really
really
attractive
and
it
wasn’t
long
before
all
these
little
gangs
were
all
going
to
the
Hacienda
and
all
standing
in
the
same
corner
I
remember
we
had
our
own
kind
of
Blackburn
Corner
in
the
Hacienda
and
this
was
like
a
club
in
Manchester
a
big
city
and
you
know
kids
from
a
little
Mill
Town
down
the
road
sort of
just
took
over
a
whole
section
of
the
club
so
that
was
kind
of
the
start
of
it
for
me.
Now Playing:
Mel
Getting involved part 2. (3:59 mins)
Mel
Good memories. (5:21 mins)

Full Transcript:

So
could
you
start
by
just
telling
me
about
how
you
got
involved
with
the
parties
and
how
you’re
going
to
them…
that’s
a
really
good
question
I
suppose
it’s
something
that
kind
of
just
evolved
naturally
you
know
that
the
culture
at
the
time
was
that
there
kind
of
wasn’t
a
lot
of
hope
for
young
people
and
it
was
quite
it
was
really
expensive
to
go
to
university
so
kids
who
were
at
college
were
kind
of
just
doing
that
sort
of
not
work
for
as
long
as
possible
and
the
job
prospects
around
at
the
time
weren’t
great
so
unless
you
were
lucky
enough
to
perhaps
have
an
apprenticeship
most
kids
were
on
like
YTSs
and
stuff
like
that
so
it
was
all
quite
depressing
really
but
there’s
always
been
a
real
strong
sense
of
community
in
Blackburn
and
Darwen
and
I
remember
at
the
time
there
was
lots
of
sort
of
territorial
little
gangs
of
teenagers
from
different
areas
who
were
or
who’re
often
in
conflict
with
each
other
and
around
that
time
we
stuck
under
a
few
of
us
had
started
visiting
a
club in
Manchester
called
the
Hacienda
and
for
me
I
think
that
was
the
beginning
of
it
that
was
sort
of
where
the
love
for
the
party
scene
started
from
you
know
we
saw
this
mus-
we
had
this
music
that
we’d
never
heard
before
yanno
the
music
in
the
church
was
horrendous
at
that
time!
I
saw a
Top
of
the
Pops
from
that
era
a
few
days
ago
actually,
and
it
just
reminded
me
of
how
bad it
was
so
we
were
subjected
to
things
like
Bros
and
please
forgive
me
Matt and Luke Goss
if
he’s
still
alive
or
not…
laughs’
but
you
know,
that’s
that’s
sort
of
what
we were
subject
to
so
previous
to
that
we
particularly
in
Darwen
we
all
used
to
listen
to
music
from
our
previous
peers
before
us
there
was
nothing
sort
of
really
to
call
our
own
other
than
perhaps
New
Order
and
the
indie
music
from
Manchester
that
a
lot
of
us
had
been
into
as
younger
teens.
In
the
late
Eighties
of
the
you
know
the
music
was
shocking
and
then
we
went
to
this
you
know
we
went
to
this
place.
We
went
to
we
went
to
the
Hacienda
and
the
clubs
we’d
been
used
to
were
full
of
teenagers
and
young
adults
wearing
shoulder
pads
and
all
dressed
in
like
something
off
Dallas
you
know
what i
mean
and
we
went
to
this
club
called
the
Hacienda
but
it
was
just
something
absolutely
completely
different
people
was
just
really
really
casual
you
know
there
were
sort
of
no
front
cause
every
other
club
i’d ever
been
in
there
was
this
sort
of
‘i’m
Mr.
Cool”
sort
of
front
going
on
and
there
was
none
of
that
in
the
Hacienda
….people
were
just
dancing
in
all
kinds
of
mad
crazy
ways
and
really
just
sort
of
being
free
and
that
was
really
attractive
that
was
really
attractive
and
that
was
kind
of
the
start
of
it
so
we’d
go
over
in
small
groups
but
that
word
started
to
spread
and
it
became
really
really
attractive
and
it
wasn’t
long
before
all
these
little
gangs
were
all
going
to
the
Hacienda
and
all
standing
in
the
same
corner
I
remember
we
had
our
own
kind
of
Blackburn
Corner
in
the
Hacienda
and
this
was
like
a
club
in
Manchester
a
big
city
and
you
know
kids
from
a
little
Mill
Town
down
the
road
sort of
just
took
over
a
whole
section
of
the
club
so
that
was
kind
of
the
start
of
it
for
me.

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I
also
regularly
went
to
parties
I
also
had
a
little
bit
of
involvement
in
the
organisation
yeah
that’s
it
really
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I
also
regularly
went
to
parties
I
also
had
a
little
bit
of
involvement
in
the
organisation
yeah
that’s
it
really

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So
I
think
how
I
ended
up
going
to
the
parties
in
Blackburn
it
was
all
because
of
my
older
brother
David
and
he’d
been
going
to
Sett
End
and
going
to
sommat
parties
and
so
I
knew
about
it
so
I
were
like
he
were
a
bit
older
than
me
so
I
were
keeping
it
a
secret
though
I
didn’t
know
if
mum
and
dad
knew
at
the
time
and
so
I
went
from
(laugh)
playing
with
Barbies
to
going
to
Acid
parties
within
a
year.
It
was
such
a
fast
transition…
It
were
really
weird,
so
I
remember
being
fast
asleep
you
know
in our
terraced
house
in
Blackburn
and
my
brother
getting
in
at
like
I
don’t
know
four
in
the
morning
or
sommat
Opened
my
bedroom
door
woke
me
up
like
his
thirteen
year
old
sister
he’s
like
Jack!
Jack!
I’m like
what?
what
you
want?
he’s
like
“i’ve
just
heard
a
song
i’ve
just
heard
a
song”
he
might’ve
said
track
but
cant
bear
track
I
always
feel
weird
saying
track
but
he
said
I’ve
just
heard
some
music
where
it
sounded
like
there
were
a
submarine
in
it
and
I
went
“oh
brilliant…
okay”
get
out
get
out
my
room
you
know
it
were
like
half
four in
morning
so
then
so
then
you
know
it
weren’t
like
now
where
you
can
just
go
online
and
see
what
that
that
track
was
you
know
he
had
to
go
to
Astonishing
Sounds
record
shop
in
Blackburn
wait
for
it
to
come….
and
all
this
so
about
a
week
and half
later
he
said
hey
come
and
listen
to
that
music
I were
on
about
so
we
sat
in
his
bedroom
and
it
were
Pacific
State
by
808
State
and
I
just
thought
it
were the
best
thing
I’d
ever
heard
and
and
it
just
made
me
go
I
want
to
go
wherever
that’s
being
played
basically
so
I
think
I’d
need
to
check with
my
brother
but
I
think
I
probably
went
to
my
first
to
the
Sett
End
and
then
to
my
first
acid
party
a
week
after
hearing
that
because
I
would
just
couldn’t
believe
it
yeah
will
you
tell
us
more
about
the
first
time
you
walked
into
one
of
those
parties
and
what
it
felt
like
especially
as
you
know
as
a
Thirteen
or
Fourteen
year
old
what
that
experience
was
like
so
the
the
first
party
that
I
went
to
so
I
went
with
my
best
friend
Caroline
at
the
time
and
I
think
it
was
it
was
at
Glenfield
Park
and
I
remember
there
being
a
bit
of
a
scary
moment
we
got
you
know
we
got
out
of
the
car
and
then
started
walking
up
this
little
side
bit
at
Glenfield
park
and
then
I’m
sure
somebody
said
ah
there’s
police
dogs
and
everybody
started
running
back round
the
front
of
the
building
anyway
so
me
and
Caroline
who’re
like
queuing
up
outside
waiting
to
get
in
like
really
excited
nervous
and
I
just
heard
someone
shout
shout
my
name
my
full
name
and
I
thought
oh
God
Oh
God
who
is
this?
i’m
in
it
now
that’s
it
someone’s
seen me
sitting
there
and
I
looked
up
and
it
were
a
lad
called
Scotty
who
used
to
play
Crown
Green
bowls
with
my
dad
so
he’d
spotted
me
queuing
up
and
I
just
went
running
over
and
he went
‘come here!”
….
I went
….
“please don’t tell my dad!”
“get
in
there”
get
in
there!
So
the
first
party
I
ever
got
into
was
because
of
a
bloke
that
played
Crown
Green
bowls
with
my
dad
but
my
friend
Caroline
was
older
than
me
and
I’m
sure
she
must
have
thought
I
were
dead
cool
to
get
us
into
our
first
acid
party
but
nothing
but
it
were
just
like
me
dad’s
mate
who
probably
wanted
to
keep
an
eye
on
us
so
that
was
that
were
me
first
I
ever
went
to
I
don’t
know
it’s
really
hard
to
remember
how
I
felt
going
into
there
but
I
it
were
all
about
the
dancing
for
me
I
just
loved
dancing
and
and
seeing
everybody
just
all
doing
the
same
thing
at
the
same
time
I’d
never
seen
I’d
never
seen
that
before
you
know
what
you
know
it’s
your
first
Club
experience
really
but
you’re
in
a
big
warehouse
but
it
were
just
just
seeing
a
mass
of
people
all
doing
the
same
thing
at
the
same
time
was
just
the
best
thing
I’d
ever
seen
Can
you
tell
me
about
some
of
your
best
memories?
like
the
good
things
about
the
era?
It
was
all
music
for
me.
It
were
like
like
because
my
brother
was
really
good
at
finding
all the
stuff
that
we’d
listened
to
at
Sett
End
he’d
be
able
to
find
find
and
order
them.
He
always
made
me
mixtapes
so
it
were
all
about
the
music
for
me
because
I
wasn’t
you
know
in
between
going
to
acid
parties
I
were
at
school
so
it’s
not
like
you
know
the
parties
once
they
were
over
I’d
just
be
like
I’d
just
have
mix
tapes
to
get
me
through
until
the
next
one
so
one
of
my
favorite
things
to
do
would
be
to
ring
my
friend
Caroline
at
like
eight
in the
morning
David would
give
me
a
mix
tape
so
she’d
be
on
her
way
to
school
and
I’d
go
listen
go
listen
to
what
he’s
found
and
I’d
just
like
put
the phone
you
know
against
the
stereo
and
just
play
Caroline
all
these
like
rave
songs
before
she
were
going
to
school
you
know
so
it
would
just
like
waiting
for
all
to
hear
all
stuff
that
you’d
heard
in
clubs
so
it
were
all
music-related
and
I
think
having
a
secret
with
my
brother
were
good
you
know
it
were
nice
to
because
he
knew
I
were
going
in
and
weren’t
going
to
grass
me
up
so
it
were
just
nice
having
that
thing
that
were
just
mine
and
my
brothers
as
well
so
you’ve
got
a
little
secret
together
that
you
you
know
that
that
you
can
you
can
do
and
I
also
used
to
like
I
used
to
some
people
don’t
like
this
but
I
used
to
like
it
when
certain
certain
music
that
you’d
hear
at
the
parties
some
of
it would
break
through
onto
top
of
the
pops
and
stuff
like
that
so
you’d
be
sat
there
with
mum
and
dad
thinking
God!
why
is
Jackie
going
so
mad
to
this
song
dancing
about
you
know
it’s
cause
I’ve
been
in a
warehouse
you
know,
three
days
before
dancing
to
it
and
there
you
can’t
like
can’t
let
on
but
yeah
it were
all
the
highlights
were
just
all
the
all
the
music
and
and
just
seeing
lots
of
people
all
loved
up
I
mean
for
whatever
reasons
I
wouldn’t
have
known
fully
when
I
was
that
age
but
it
were
just
good
seeing
a
lot
of
people
being
being
nice
to
each
other
you
know
en masse
it
were
really
it
were
really
lovely
so
they
were
the
high
points
it
were
just
music
and
everyone’s
attitude
when
they
were
there
just
everyone
were
looking
out
for
each
other
that
were
my
experience
of
it
and
all
my
brother’s
mates
he
had
they
all
knew
I
were his
little
sister
so
they
don’t
you
know
I’d
always
have
someone
checking
you
know
of
checking
on
me
and
seeing
I were
alright
and
stuff
so
I
always
felt
really
safe
even
though
it
were an
illegal
party
I
felt
very
safe.
That
was
going
to
be
my
next
question,
you
know,
as someone
who
was
Thirteen
or
Fourteen
around
the
time
how
were
you
how
were
you
treated
how
did
people
did
people
know
you
were
you
were
that
age ?
How
were
you
perceived
of
in
that
group
of
what
largely
older
although
there
was
a
lot
of
people
who
were
in
the
sort
of
Fourteen
Fifteen
Sixteen
year-olds
but
you
are
probably
the
youngest
person
that
we
think
was
at
those
parties?
yeah
like
I
said
so
I’d
you
know
I
wouldn’t
go
to
all
parties
with
my
brother
because
he
had
his
own
thing
going
on
and
so
I’d
go
with
another
group
of
mates
but
that
group
of
mates
knew
my
brother
as
well
so
it
were
just
yeah
I
never
felt
I
never
felt
unsafe
at
all
it
were
up
there
were
out
and
they
were
always
a
big
gang
of
us
so
it
weren’t
like
you
know
the
first
party
me and
Caroline
went
to
on
our own
but
but
we
always
knew
people
in
there
so
yeah
I
didn’t
feel
I
don’t
know
you
had
to
I
struggle
to
know
how
I
processed
what
were
going
on
at
the
time
because
it
was
because
I
probably
went
to
ten
parties
all
in
all
and
but
yeah
it
were
it
were
a
period
in
time
where
it
just
it
did
feel
really
exciting
and
I
didn’t
feel
like
I
were
being
naughty
I
just
didn’t
it
just
it
never
felt
like
that
I
don’t
think
any
of
what
I
was
was
doing
it
because
it
was
thrilling
and
it
were
you
know
I
don’t
remember
feeling
like
that
because
I
don’t
think
I
wasn’t
like
ummm
you
know
I
was
quite
a
well-behaved
kid
you
know
I
wasn’t
like a
wild
child
It
sounds
like
it
because
I
were
thirteen
going
to
warehouse
parties
quite
as
but
I
wasn’t
I
was
a
really
well-behaved
kid
It
was
just
that
I
loved
music
and
loved
dancing
so
it
were
about
that
It
weren’t
because
it
was
something
naughty
you
know?
I
think
that
were
the
least
least
of
it
for
me
the
the
it
being
illegal.
I
don’t
think
that
really
did
anything
for
me.
So
we’ve
talked
about
the
good
stuff
and
the
excitement
of
it
was
there
anything
darker
or
any
more
negative
memories
that you
have
anything
that
came
out
of
that
time?
The
only
negative
I
think
about
and
it’s
not
something
that
happened
at
the
time
It’s
since…
I
think
a
lot
of
people
I
know
struggled
after
it
you
know
because
it
was
such
a
major
thing
in
lots
of
people’s
lives
and
it
was
like
this
euphoric
thing
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people
I
think
a
lot
of
people
got
into
other
kinds
of
drugs
after
it
and
all
this
kind
of
stuff
so
there
is
something
for
me
where
I
just
feel
like
maybe
one
downside
of
that
massive
euphoric
thing
was
that
some
people
struggled
after
it
you
know
but
but
I
don’t
I
don’t
really
remember
yeah
the
sad
things
are
the
people
who
I’d
loved
I
got
on
with
I
who
you’d
end
up
in
Sett
End
toilet
with
Girls
that
were
really
funny
and
you
know
like,
you
know
there
were
just
a
lot
of
people
who
went
down
a
different
path
after
it
and
and
a
lot
of
those
people
I
remember
from
that
time
so
that
that’s
my
only
thats
you
know
the
only
sad
thing
I
ever
think
about
it
but
but
the
I
suppose
like
so
that
the
yeah
the
first
time
I
went
that’s
one
story
and
the
the
last
party
the
last
party
I
went
to
where
I
got
found
out
it
was
one
of
them
classic
i’m
staying
at
their
house
they’re
staying
at
my
house
you
know
where
you’re
sort
of
all
staying
at
each
other’s
houses
so
you
don’t
you
know
you
nobody
knows
where
you
are
kind
of
thing.
So
we
went to
Sett
End….
no!
we
no
we
didn’t
we
went
to
Monroe’s
that
that
night
so
I’m
at
Monroe’s
and
I’ve
been
dancing
and
these
draft
this
water
water
used
to
drip
off
the
ceiling
in
there
and
I
remember
it
drips
getting
this
drip
on
me
and
it
burning
and
me
going
what
the
hell
is
that?
It’s
obvious
like
sweaty
ventilation
like
dripping
onto
your
face
and
making
you… eurghhhh
It
were
horrible
so
anyway
yeah
I
was
in
there
and
unbeknownst
to
me
we’d
all
been
found
out
cuz
our
mate’s
brother
one
of
his
mates
fancied
one
of
our
other
mates
and
wanted
to
ask
her
out
so
he
phoned
her
up
at
one
of
our
houses
where
she
wasn’t
staying
so
they
got
alerted
to
their
mum
rang
my
mum
and
dad
and
all
this
so
my
Mum
and
Dad
they
parked
outside
Monroe’s
waiting
for
me
to
come
out
which
I
didn’t
know
so
i’m
having
a
brilliant
time
come
out
they
don’t
find
me
but
my
dad
tells
this
story
where
him and mum
set off
to
go
home
because
they’d
you
know
they
hadn’t
found
me
and
they’ve
got
about
ten
cars
following
them
following
behind
them
like
a
convoy
so
my
dad’s
going
what are
these
bloody
cars
doing
following
us ??
So
he
had
to
pull
in
so
that
they’d
all
go
past
him
and
he
were
just
like
they
were
going
to
this
bloody
acid
house
party
so
so
anyway
we
went
to
that
party
we
went
to
Oswaldtwistle
and
I
remember
because
we
went
past
Daisy
Dairy
about
twelve
times
try
to
go
into
it
and
then
and
then
we
went
to
it
and
I
were
going
out
with
a lad
from
Liverpool
at
the
time
imaginatively
called
Scouse’
So
that
party
I’d
gone
with
my
brother
and
gone
with
him
gone
with
Scouse
on
my
brother
so
so
we
went
there
had
a
really
good
time
and
then
I
went
to
my
friend
Dan’s
house
and
my
brother
went
with
Scouse
and
we were
all
going
to
meet
back
up
at
mine
my
mum
and
dad’s
so
I
got
to
Dan’s
and
her
dad
shouts
her
upstairs
and
I
could
tell
in
his
voice
some like
oh
my
god
we’ve
been
rumbled
here
and
so
he
says
Jackie
in a
really
stern
voice
I
went
upstairs
he’s
like
where
have
you
been?
I
went
ummmm
Caroline’s
he’s
like
no
try
again
i’m
like
I
was
in
Oswaldtwistle
But
yeah,
he
said
your
mum
and
dad
know
and
he
said
I
went
s***
they’re
going
to
kill
me
and
she
lived
five
minutes
from
me
and
I
walked
home
my
heart were
pounding
out
my
chest
thinking
oh
my
god
i’ve
had
it
here
this
is
it
so
I
got
in
me
dad’s
reading
the paper
Me
mum’s
in
tears
just
like
sobbing
and
I’m
like
oh
no
she
said
we
were
worried
about
you
going
in pubs
never
mind
to
these
acid
house
parties
So
anyway
so
im
being
quizzed
about
all
this
stuff
then
my
brother
walks
in
with
Scouse
and
my
mum
always
thought
he
were
a
bit
too
old
for
me
and
she
went
get
out
my
brother
turned
around
to
leave
she
went
not
you
him!
like
a
farce!
So
he
walked
out
so
basically
my
mum
said
“right
you’re
grounded”
you’re
grounded
for
a
month
right
and
she
said
and
you’re
not
allowed
to
see
him
anymore
and
I
said
“it’s
not
his
fault
It’s
not
his
fault
I’ve
been
to
ten
like
this
isn’t
the
first
one
I’ve
been
to
I’ve
been
to
ten!”
She
went
right
well
you’re
grounded
for
two
months
and
you
can’t
watch
Neighbours!
So
that’s
how
young
I
was
come
on
no
Neighbours
but
when
you’re
at
school
everyone’s
just
talking
about
it
all the
time so I were
just
like
I
felt
so
alien
like
not
being
able
to
watch
Neighbours,
but
but
then
so
I
did
my
grounding
like
two
months
didn’t
ask
to
go
out
were
really
good
but
I
did
look
older
for
my
age
and
all
that
and
my
friends
were
older
so
I
think
after
that
cause
I was
Fourteen
no
must’ve
been
Fourteen
when
I
done
my
grounding
my
mum
and
dad
said
right
well
you’re
allowed
out
but
there’s
these
rules
so
when
I
turned
like
Fifteen,
my
mum
and
dad
started
being
a
bit
more
like
well
she’s
obviously
likes
dancing
she
Likes
music
what
we’re
going
to
do?
we
can’t
keep
her
in!
can’t
stop
her
going
out
so
we
agreed
that
I were
allowed
out
with
certain
rules
no
drinking
if
you
get
caught
drinking
that’s
it
you
know
in
by
a
certain
time
wanted
to
know
who you’re
with
and
all
that
so
in
actually
going
to
them
and
being
found
out
actually
helped
my
relationship
with
my
mum
and
dad
in
terms
of
me
being
someone
who
wanted
to
go
dancing.
Last
question
for
you
before
we
go
and
if
there was
someone
looking
back
at
this
archive
and
understanding
these
stories
a
hundred
years
in
the
future
with
no
kind
of
understanding
of
Blackburn
and
what
they
say
it
was
about,
what
would
you
like
them
to
know
about
it
now ?
Would
you
like
them
to
understand
it?
Oh
god,
a
message
for
the
kids….
I
don’t
want
to
say
what
came
to
mind
straight
away…
but
god
I
don’t
know
what
the
message
would
be
but
It
would
I
think
it
would
be
that
if
if
you’d
have
walked
into
one
of
those
warehouses
and
seen
everyone
who
were
there
the
most
inclusive
you
know
full
of
warm
people
you
know
and
I
know
there
were
other
things
at
play
there
but
you
know
and
I
suppose
as
well
because
I
had
a
big
brother
this
is
going
to
sound
I
don’t
know
I
don’t
want
to
sound
like
I’m
generalising
but
I
did
love
seeing
lots
of
men
cuddling
each
other
and
you
know
being
nice
to
each
other
and
you
know
because
in
Blackburn
in
working
class
Lancashire
men
a
lot
of
the
time
struggle
with
that
kind
of
stuff
i’m
you
know
I’m
from
that
background
where
you
know
they
don’t
really
talk
about…
The
men
in
our
family
don’t
really
talk
you
know
there
was
something
about
it
that
made
people
really
open
and
opened
up
a
conversation
about
stuff
and
feelings
and
being
you
know
not
embarrassed
to
just
let
your
feelings
out
and
and
I
loved
it
for
that
I
absolutely
loved
that
side
of
it
that
were
just
people
just
being
free
to
do
what
they
wanted
to
do
you
and
I
think
now
there
are
like
free
parties
and
there are
all
that
stuff
going
on
but
I
don’t
know
whether
I
should
say
this
but
I
feel
sorry
now
for
that
age
group
because
the
drugs
is
very
different
the
these
drugs
that
make
it
where
you
can’t
talk
and
you
can’t
move
properly
you
know
it’s
not
conducive
to
being
sociable
you
know
and
and
I
just
yeah
I
hope
that
you
know
didn’t
know
that
people
were
sort
of
lucid
enough
to
actually
enjoy
it
and
remember
it
you
know
but
yeah
I
don’t
know
if
that
answers
the
question
I
don’t
know
It’s
a
tough
one
that
I
don’t
know
but
it
what
it
did
feel
like
freedom
and
it
did
feel
like
you
were
just
all
together
in
a
positive
place
which
I
really
liked
like
I
say
I
don’t
remember
one
bit
of
trouble
ever
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Jackie
Full interview. (18:45 mins)
Mel
Getting involved part 1. (11 secs)

Full Transcript:

So
I
think
how
I
ended
up
going
to
the
parties
in
Blackburn
it
was
all
because
of
my
older
brother
David
and
he’d
been
going
to
Sett
End
and
going
to
sommat
parties
and
so
I
knew
about
it
so
I
were
like
he
were
a
bit
older
than
me
so
I
were
keeping
it
a
secret
though
I
didn’t
know
if
mum
and
dad
knew
at
the
time
and
so
I
went
from
(laugh)
playing
with
Barbies
to
going
to
Acid
parties
within
a
year.
It
was
such
a
fast
transition…
It
were
really
weird,
so
I
remember
being
fast
asleep
you
know
in our
terraced
house
in
Blackburn
and
my
brother
getting
in
at
like
I
don’t
know
four
in
the
morning
or
sommat
Opened
my
bedroom
door
woke
me
up
like
his
thirteen
year
old
sister
he’s
like
Jack!
Jack!
I’m like
what?
what
you
want?
he’s
like
“i’ve
just
heard
a
song
i’ve
just
heard
a
song”
he
might’ve
said
track
but
cant
bear
track
I
always
feel
weird
saying
track
but
he
said
I’ve
just
heard
some
music
where
it
sounded
like
there
were
a
submarine
in
it
and
I
went
“oh
brilliant…
okay”
get
out
get
out
my
room
you
know
it
were
like
half
four in
morning
so
then
so
then
you
know
it
weren’t
like
now
where
you
can
just
go
online
and
see
what
that
that
track
was
you
know
he
had
to
go
to
Astonishing
Sounds
record
shop
in
Blackburn
wait
for
it
to
come….
and
all
this
so
about
a
week
and half
later
he
said
hey
come
and
listen
to
that
music
I were
on
about
so
we
sat
in
his
bedroom
and
it
were
Pacific
State
by
808
State
and
I
just
thought
it
were the
best
thing
I’d
ever
heard
and
and
it
just
made
me
go
I
want
to
go
wherever
that’s
being
played
basically
so
I
think
I’d
need
to
check with
my
brother
but
I
think
I
probably
went
to
my
first
to
the
Sett
End
and
then
to
my
first
acid
party
a
week
after
hearing
that
because
I
would
just
couldn’t
believe
it
yeah
will
you
tell
us
more
about
the
first
time
you
walked
into
one
of
those
parties
and
what
it
felt
like
especially
as
you
know
as
a
Thirteen
or
Fourteen
year
old
what
that
experience
was
like
so
the
the
first
party
that
I
went
to
so
I
went
with
my
best
friend
Caroline
at
the
time
and
I
think
it
was
it
was
at
Glenfield
Park
and
I
remember
there
being
a
bit
of
a
scary
moment
we
got
you
know
we
got
out
of
the
car
and
then
started
walking
up
this
little
side
bit
at
Glenfield
park
and
then
I’m
sure
somebody
said
ah
there’s
police
dogs
and
everybody
started
running
back round
the
front
of
the
building
anyway
so
me
and
Caroline
who’re
like
queuing
up
outside
waiting
to
get
in
like
really
excited
nervous
and
I
just
heard
someone
shout
shout
my
name
my
full
name
and
I
thought
oh
God
Oh
God
who
is
this?
i’m
in
it
now
that’s
it
someone’s
seen me
sitting
there
and
I
looked
up
and
it
were
a
lad
called
Scotty
who
used
to
play
Crown
Green
bowls
with
my
dad
so
he’d
spotted
me
queuing
up
and
I
just
went
running
over
and
he went
‘come here!”
….
I went
….
“please don’t tell my dad!”
“get
in
there”
get
in
there!
So
the
first
party
I
ever
got
into
was
because
of
a
bloke
that
played
Crown
Green
bowls
with
my
dad
but
my
friend
Caroline
was
older
than
me
and
I’m
sure
she
must
have
thought
I
were
dead
cool
to
get
us
into
our
first
acid
party
but
nothing
but
it
were
just
like
me
dad’s
mate
who
probably
wanted
to
keep
an
eye
on
us
so
that
was
that
were
me
first
I
ever
went
to
I
don’t
know
it’s
really
hard
to
remember
how
I
felt
going
into
there
but
I
it
were
all
about
the
dancing
for
me
I
just
loved
dancing
and
and
seeing
everybody
just
all
doing
the
same
thing
at
the
same
time
I’d
never
seen
I’d
never
seen
that
before
you
know
what
you
know
it’s
your
first
Club
experience
really
but
you’re
in
a
big
warehouse
but
it
were
just
just
seeing
a
mass
of
people
all
doing
the
same
thing
at
the
same
time
was
just
the
best
thing
I’d
ever
seen
Can
you
tell
me
about
some
of
your
best
memories?
like
the
good
things
about
the
era?
It
was
all
music
for
me.
It
were
like
like
because
my
brother
was
really
good
at
finding
all the
stuff
that
we’d
listened
to
at
Sett
End
he’d
be
able
to
find
find
and
order
them.
He
always
made
me
mixtapes
so
it
were
all
about
the
music
for
me
because
I
wasn’t
you
know
in
between
going
to
acid
parties
I
were
at
school
so
it’s
not
like
you
know
the
parties
once
they
were
over
I’d
just
be
like
I’d
just
have
mix
tapes
to
get
me
through
until
the
next
one
so
one
of
my
favorite
things
to
do
would
be
to
ring
my
friend
Caroline
at
like
eight
in the
morning
David would
give
me
a
mix
tape
so
she’d
be
on
her
way
to
school
and
I’d
go
listen
go
listen
to
what
he’s
found
and
I’d
just
like
put
the phone
you
know
against
the
stereo
and
just
play
Caroline
all
these
like
rave
songs
before
she
were
going
to
school
you
know
so
it
would
just
like
waiting
for
all
to
hear
all
stuff
that
you’d
heard
in
clubs
so
it
were
all
music-related
and
I
think
having
a
secret
with
my
brother
were
good
you
know
it
were
nice
to
because
he
knew
I
were
going
in
and
weren’t
going
to
grass
me
up
so
it
were
just
nice
having
that
thing
that
were
just
mine
and
my
brothers
as
well
so
you’ve
got
a
little
secret
together
that
you
you
know
that
that
you
can
you
can
do
and
I
also
used
to
like
I
used
to
some
people
don’t
like
this
but
I
used
to
like
it
when
certain
certain
music
that
you’d
hear
at
the
parties
some
of
it would
break
through
onto
top
of
the
pops
and
stuff
like
that
so
you’d
be
sat
there
with
mum
and
dad
thinking
God!
why
is
Jackie
going
so
mad
to
this
song
dancing
about
you
know
it’s
cause
I’ve
been
in a
warehouse
you
know,
three
days
before
dancing
to
it
and
there
you
can’t
like
can’t
let
on
but
yeah
it were
all
the
highlights
were
just
all
the
all
the
music
and
and
just
seeing
lots
of
people
all
loved
up
I
mean
for
whatever
reasons
I
wouldn’t
have
known
fully
when
I
was
that
age
but
it
were
just
good
seeing
a
lot
of
people
being
being
nice
to
each
other
you
know
en masse
it
were
really
it
were
really
lovely
so
they
were
the
high
points
it
were
just
music
and
everyone’s
attitude
when
they
were
there
just
everyone
were
looking
out
for
each
other
that
were
my
experience
of
it
and
all
my
brother’s
mates
he
had
they
all
knew
I
were his
little
sister
so
they
don’t
you
know
I’d
always
have
someone
checking
you
know
of
checking
on
me
and
seeing
I were
alright
and
stuff
so
I
always
felt
really
safe
even
though
it
were an
illegal
party
I
felt
very
safe.
That
was
going
to
be
my
next
question,
you
know,
as someone
who
was
Thirteen
or
Fourteen
around
the
time
how
were
you
how
were
you
treated
how
did
people
did
people
know
you
were
you
were
that
age ?
How
were
you
perceived
of
in
that
group
of
what
largely
older
although
there
was
a
lot
of
people
who
were
in
the
sort
of
Fourteen
Fifteen
Sixteen
year-olds
but
you
are
probably
the
youngest
person
that
we
think
was
at
those
parties?
yeah
like
I
said
so
I’d
you
know
I
wouldn’t
go
to
all
parties
with
my
brother
because
he
had
his
own
thing
going
on
and
so
I’d
go
with
another
group
of
mates
but
that
group
of
mates
knew
my
brother
as
well
so
it
were
just
yeah
I
never
felt
I
never
felt
unsafe
at
all
it
were
up
there
were
out
and
they
were
always
a
big
gang
of
us
so
it
weren’t
like
you
know
the
first
party
me and
Caroline
went
to
on
our own
but
but
we
always
knew
people
in
there
so
yeah
I
didn’t
feel
I
don’t
know
you
had
to
I
struggle
to
know
how
I
processed
what
were
going
on
at
the
time
because
it
was
because
I
probably
went
to
ten
parties
all
in
all
and
but
yeah
it
were
it
were
a
period
in
time
where
it
just
it
did
feel
really
exciting
and
I
didn’t
feel
like
I
were
being
naughty
I
just
didn’t
it
just
it
never
felt
like
that
I
don’t
think
any
of
what
I
was
was
doing
it
because
it
was
thrilling
and
it
were
you
know
I
don’t
remember
feeling
like
that
because
I
don’t
think
I
wasn’t
like
ummm
you
know
I
was
quite
a
well-behaved
kid
you
know
I
wasn’t
like a
wild
child
It
sounds
like
it
because
I
were
thirteen
going
to
warehouse
parties
quite
as
but
I
wasn’t
I
was
a
really
well-behaved
kid
It
was
just
that
I
loved
music
and
loved
dancing
so
it
were
about
that
It
weren’t
because
it
was
something
naughty
you
know?
I
think
that
were
the
least
least
of
it
for
me
the
the
it
being
illegal.
I
don’t
think
that
really
did
anything
for
me.
So
we’ve
talked
about
the
good
stuff
and
the
excitement
of
it
was
there
anything
darker
or
any
more
negative
memories
that you
have
anything
that
came
out
of
that
time?
The
only
negative
I
think
about
and
it’s
not
something
that
happened
at
the
time
It’s
since…
I
think
a
lot
of
people
I
know
struggled
after
it
you
know
because
it
was
such
a
major
thing
in
lots
of
people’s
lives
and
it
was
like
this
euphoric
thing
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people
I
think
a
lot
of
people
got
into
other
kinds
of
drugs
after
it
and
all
this
kind
of
stuff
so
there
is
something
for
me
where
I
just
feel
like
maybe
one
downside
of
that
massive
euphoric
thing
was
that
some
people
struggled
after
it
you
know
but
but
I
don’t
I
don’t
really
remember
yeah
the
sad
things
are
the
people
who
I’d
loved
I
got
on
with
I
who
you’d
end
up
in
Sett
End
toilet
with
Girls
that
were
really
funny
and
you
know
like,
you
know
there
were
just
a
lot
of
people
who
went
down
a
different
path
after
it
and
and
a
lot
of
those
people
I
remember
from
that
time
so
that
that’s
my
only
thats
you
know
the
only
sad
thing
I
ever
think
about
it
but
but
the
I
suppose
like
so
that
the
yeah
the
first
time
I
went
that’s
one
story
and
the
the
last
party
the
last
party
I
went
to
where
I
got
found
out
it
was
one
of
them
classic
i’m
staying
at
their
house
they’re
staying
at
my
house
you
know
where
you’re
sort
of
all
staying
at
each
other’s
houses
so
you
don’t
you
know
you
nobody
knows
where
you
are
kind
of
thing.
So
we
went to
Sett
End….
no!
we
no
we
didn’t
we
went
to
Monroe’s
that
that
night
so
I’m
at
Monroe’s
and
I’ve
been
dancing
and
these
draft
this
water
water
used
to
drip
off
the
ceiling
in
there
and
I
remember
it
drips
getting
this
drip
on
me
and
it
burning
and
me
going
what
the
hell
is
that?
It’s
obvious
like
sweaty
ventilation
like
dripping
onto
your
face
and
making
you… eurghhhh
It
were
horrible
so
anyway
yeah
I
was
in
there
and
unbeknownst
to
me
we’d
all
been
found
out
cuz
our
mate’s
brother
one
of
his
mates
fancied
one
of
our
other
mates
and
wanted
to
ask
her
out
so
he
phoned
her
up
at
one
of
our
houses
where
she
wasn’t
staying
so
they
got
alerted
to
their
mum
rang
my
mum
and
dad
and
all
this
so
my
Mum
and
Dad
they
parked
outside
Monroe’s
waiting
for
me
to
come
out
which
I
didn’t
know
so
i’m
having
a
brilliant
time
come
out
they
don’t
find
me
but
my
dad
tells
this
story
where
him and mum
set off
to
go
home
because
they’d
you
know
they
hadn’t
found
me
and
they’ve
got
about
ten
cars
following
them
following
behind
them
like
a
convoy
so
my
dad’s
going
what are
these
bloody
cars
doing
following
us ??
So
he
had
to
pull
in
so
that
they’d
all
go
past
him
and
he
were
just
like
they
were
going
to
this
bloody
acid
house
party
so
so
anyway
we
went
to
that
party
we
went
to
Oswaldtwistle
and
I
remember
because
we
went
past
Daisy
Dairy
about
twelve
times
try
to
go
into
it
and
then
and
then
we
went
to
it
and
I
were
going
out
with
a lad
from
Liverpool
at
the
time
imaginatively
called
Scouse’
So
that
party
I’d
gone
with
my
brother
and
gone
with
him
gone
with
Scouse
on
my
brother
so
so
we
went
there
had
a
really
good
time
and
then
I
went
to
my
friend
Dan’s
house
and
my
brother
went
with
Scouse
and
we were
all
going
to
meet
back
up
at
mine
my
mum
and
dad’s
so
I
got
to
Dan’s
and
her
dad
shouts
her
upstairs
and
I
could
tell
in
his
voice
some like
oh
my
god
we’ve
been
rumbled
here
and
so
he
says
Jackie
in a
really
stern
voice
I
went
upstairs
he’s
like
where
have
you
been?
I
went
ummmm
Caroline’s
he’s
like
no
try
again
i’m
like
I
was
in
Oswaldtwistle
But
yeah,
he
said
your
mum
and
dad
know
and
he
said
I
went
s***
they’re
going
to
kill
me
and
she
lived
five
minutes
from
me
and
I
walked
home
my
heart were
pounding
out
my
chest
thinking
oh
my
god
i’ve
had
it
here
this
is
it
so
I
got
in
me
dad’s
reading
the paper
Me
mum’s
in
tears
just
like
sobbing
and
I’m
like
oh
no
she
said
we
were
worried
about
you
going
in pubs
never
mind
to
these
acid
house
parties
So
anyway
so
im
being
quizzed
about
all
this
stuff
then
my
brother
walks
in
with
Scouse
and
my
mum
always
thought
he
were
a
bit
too
old
for
me
and
she
went
get
out
my
brother
turned
around
to
leave
she
went
not
you
him!
like
a
farce!
So
he
walked
out
so
basically
my
mum
said
“right
you’re
grounded”
you’re
grounded
for
a
month
right
and
she
said
and
you’re
not
allowed
to
see
him
anymore
and
I
said
“it’s
not
his
fault
It’s
not
his
fault
I’ve
been
to
ten
like
this
isn’t
the
first
one
I’ve
been
to
I’ve
been
to
ten!”
She
went
right
well
you’re
grounded
for
two
months
and
you
can’t
watch
Neighbours!
So
that’s
how
young
I
was
come
on
no
Neighbours
but
when
you’re
at
school
everyone’s
just
talking
about
it
all the
time so I were
just
like
I
felt
so
alien
like
not
being
able
to
watch
Neighbours,
but
but
then
so
I
did
my
grounding
like
two
months
didn’t
ask
to
go
out
were
really
good
but
I
did
look
older
for
my
age
and
all
that
and
my
friends
were
older
so
I
think
after
that
cause
I was
Fourteen
no
must’ve
been
Fourteen
when
I
done
my
grounding
my
mum
and
dad
said
right
well
you’re
allowed
out
but
there’s
these
rules
so
when
I
turned
like
Fifteen,
my
mum
and
dad
started
being
a
bit
more
like
well
she’s
obviously
likes
dancing
she
Likes
music
what
we’re
going
to
do?
we
can’t
keep
her
in!
can’t
stop
her
going
out
so
we
agreed
that
I were
allowed
out
with
certain
rules
no
drinking
if
you
get
caught
drinking
that’s
it
you
know
in
by
a
certain
time
wanted
to
know
who you’re
with
and
all
that
so
in
actually
going
to
them
and
being
found
out
actually
helped
my
relationship
with
my
mum
and
dad
in
terms
of
me
being
someone
who
wanted
to
go
dancing.
Last
question
for
you
before
we
go
and
if
there was
someone
looking
back
at
this
archive
and
understanding
these
stories
a
hundred
years
in
the
future
with
no
kind
of
understanding
of
Blackburn
and
what
they
say
it
was
about,
what
would
you
like
them
to
know
about
it
now ?
Would
you
like
them
to
understand
it?
Oh
god,
a
message
for
the
kids….
I
don’t
want
to
say
what
came
to
mind
straight
away…
but
god
I
don’t
know
what
the
message
would
be
but
It
would
I
think
it
would
be
that
if
if
you’d
have
walked
into
one
of
those
warehouses
and
seen
everyone
who
were
there
the
most
inclusive
you
know
full
of
warm
people
you
know
and
I
know
there
were
other
things
at
play
there
but
you
know
and
I
suppose
as
well
because
I
had
a
big
brother
this
is
going
to
sound
I
don’t
know
I
don’t
want
to
sound
like
I’m
generalising
but
I
did
love
seeing
lots
of
men
cuddling
each
other
and
you
know
being
nice
to
each
other
and
you
know
because
in
Blackburn
in
working
class
Lancashire
men
a
lot
of
the
time
struggle
with
that
kind
of
stuff
i’m
you
know
I’m
from
that
background
where
you
know
they
don’t
really
talk
about…
The
men
in
our
family
don’t
really
talk
you
know
there
was
something
about
it
that
made
people
really
open
and
opened
up
a
conversation
about
stuff
and
feelings
and
being
you
know
not
embarrassed
to
just
let
your
feelings
out
and
and
I
loved
it
for
that
I
absolutely
loved
that
side
of
it
that
were
just
people
just
being
free
to
do
what
they
wanted
to
do
you
and
I
think
now
there
are
like
free
parties
and
there are
all
that
stuff
going
on
but
I
don’t
know
whether
I
should
say
this
but
I
feel
sorry
now
for
that
age
group
because
the
drugs
is
very
different
the
these
drugs
that
make
it
where
you
can’t
talk
and
you
can’t
move
properly
you
know
it’s
not
conducive
to
being
sociable
you
know
and
and
I
just
yeah
I
hope
that
you
know
didn’t
know
that
people
were
sort
of
lucid
enough
to
actually
enjoy
it
and
remember
it
you
know
but
yeah
I
don’t
know
if
that
answers
the
question
I
don’t
know
It’s
a
tough
one
that
I
don’t
know
but
it
what
it
did
feel
like
freedom
and
it
did
feel
like
you
were
just
all
together
in
a
positive
place
which
I
really
liked
like
I
say
I
don’t
remember
one
bit
of
trouble
ever

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Ermm.
God.
I
don’t
know
what
the
message
would
be
but
It
would…
I
think
it
would
be
that
if…
if
you’d
have
walked
into
one
of
those
warehouses
and
seen
everyone…
who
were
the
most
inclusive…
you
know…
full
of
warm
people…
you
know…
and
I
know
there
were
other
things
at
play
there…
but
you
know…
and
I
suppose
it’s
because
I
had
a
big
brother.
This
is
going
to
sound…
I
don’t
know.
I
don’t
want
to
sound
like
I’m
generalising
but
I
did
love
seeing
lots
of
men
cuddling
each
other
and
you
know…
being
nice
to
each
other
and
you
know…
because
in
Blackburn
in
working
class…
Lancashire
men…
a
lot
of
the
time
struggle
with
that
kind
of
stuff
that…
you
know.
I’m
from
that
background
where
you
know…
they
don’t
really
talk
about…
the
men
in
our
family
don’t
really
talk.
That’s
right.
You
know…
there
was
something
about
it
that
made
people
really
open…
and
opened
up
a
conversation
about
stuff
and
feelings
and
being…
you
know…
not
embarrassed
to
just
let
your
feelings
out
and…
and
I
loved
it
for
that.
I
absolutely
loved
that
side
of
it
that
wer’
just
people…
just
being
free
to
do
what
they
wanted
to
do…
you
know…
and
I
think
now
there
are
like
free
parties
and
there’d
all
that
stuff
going
on
but…
I
don’t
know
whether
I
should
say
this
but
I
feel
sorry
now
for
that
age
group
because
the
drugs…
it’s
very
different.
There’s
these
drugs
that
make
it
where
you
can’t
talk
and
you
can’t
move
properly
you
know.
it’s
not
conducive
to
being
sociable
you
know.
And…
and
I
just
yeah…
I
hope
that
you
know…
they’d
know
that
people
were
sort
of
lucid
enough
to
actually
enjoy
it
and
remember
it…
you
know.
But
yeah
I
don’t
know
if
that
answers
the
question.
I
don’t
know.
It’s
a
tough
one
that.
I
don’t
know
but
it…
but
it
did
feel
like
freedom
and
it
did
feel
like
you
were
just
all
together
in
a
positive
place
which
I
really
liked.
Like
I
say…
I
don’t
remember
one
bit
of
trouble
ever.
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Ermm.
God.
I
don’t
know
what
the
message
would
be
but
It
would…
I
think
it
would
be
that
if…
if
you’d
have
walked
into
one
of
those
warehouses
and
seen
everyone…
who
were
the
most
inclusive…
you
know…
full
of
warm
people…
you
know…
and
I
know
there
were
other
things
at
play
there…
but
you
know…
and
I
suppose
it’s
because
I
had
a
big
brother.
This
is
going
to
sound…
I
don’t
know.
I
don’t
want
to
sound
like
I’m
generalising
but
I
did
love
seeing
lots
of
men
cuddling
each
other
and
you
know…
being
nice
to
each
other
and
you
know…
because
in
Blackburn
in
working
class…
Lancashire
men…
a
lot
of
the
time
struggle
with
that
kind
of
stuff
that…
you
know.
I’m
from
that
background
where
you
know…
they
don’t
really
talk
about…
the
men
in
our
family
don’t
really
talk.
That’s
right.
You
know…
there
was
something
about
it
that
made
people
really
open…
and
opened
up
a
conversation
about
stuff
and
feelings
and
being…
you
know…
not
embarrassed
to
just
let
your
feelings
out
and…
and
I
loved
it
for
that.
I
absolutely
loved
that
side
of
it
that
wer’
just
people…
just
being
free
to
do
what
they
wanted
to
do…
you
know…
and
I
think
now
there
are
like
free
parties
and
there’d
all
that
stuff
going
on
but…
I
don’t
know
whether
I
should
say
this
but
I
feel
sorry
now
for
that
age
group
because
the
drugs…
it’s
very
different.
There’s
these
drugs
that
make
it
where
you
can’t
talk
and
you
can’t
move
properly
you
know.
it’s
not
conducive
to
being
sociable
you
know.
And…
and
I
just
yeah…
I
hope
that
you
know…
they’d
know
that
people
were
sort
of
lucid
enough
to
actually
enjoy
it
and
remember
it…
you
know.
But
yeah
I
don’t
know
if
that
answers
the
question.
I
don’t
know.
It’s
a
tough
one
that.
I
don’t
know
but
it…
but
it
did
feel
like
freedom
and
it
did
feel
like
you
were
just
all
together
in
a
positive
place
which
I
really
liked.
Like
I
say…
I
don’t
remember
one
bit
of
trouble
ever.

Jackie Bad Memories

Click to play

The
only
the
only
negative
I
think
about
and
it’s
not
something
that
happened
at
the
time.
It’s
since…
I
think
a
lot
of
people
I
know
struggled
after
it
you
know
because
it
was
such
a
major
thing
in
lots
of
people’s
lives
and
it
was
like
this
euphoric
thing
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people
I
think
a
lot
of
people
got
into
other
kinds
of
drugs
after
it
and
all this
kind
of
stuff…
so
there
is
something
for
me
where
I
just
feel
like
maybe
one
downside
of
that
massive
euphoric
thing
was
that
some
people
struggled
after
it.
Y’know
but
but
I
don’t
I
don’t
really
remember
yeah
the
sad
things
are
the
people
who
I’ve
loved
I
got
on
with
I
who
you’d
end
up
in
Sett
End
toilet
wi’
talkin’
girls
that
were
really
funny
and
you
know
like,
you
know.
There
were
just
a
lot
of
people
who
went
down
a
different
path
after
it
and….
and
a
lot
of
those
people
I
remember
from
that
time
so
that
that’s
my
only
that’s
you
know
the
only
sad
thing
I
ever
think
about
it
but…
but
the
I
suppose
like
so
that
the
yeah
the
first
time
I
went
that’s
one
story
and
the…
the
last
party
the
last
party
I
went
to
where
I
got
found
out
it
was
one
of
them
classic…
i’m
staying
at
their
house’
they’re
staying
at
my
house
you
know
where
your
sort
of
all
staying
at
each
other’s
houses.
So
you
don’t
you
know
you…
nobody
knows
where
you
are
kind
of thing
so
we
went to
Sett
End…
no
we…
no
we
didn’t
we
went
to
Monroe’s.
That…
that
night
so
I’m
at
Monroe’s
and
I’ve
been
dancing
and
this
drip…
this
water
used
to
drip
off
the
ceiling
in
there
and
I
remember
the
drips
getting…
this
drip
on
me
and
it
burning
and
me
going…
what
the
hell
is
that?
It’s
obviously
like
sweaty
ventilation
like
dripping
onto
your
face
and
making
you…
it
were
horrible
so
anyway.
Yeah
I
was
in
there
and
unbeknownst
to
me
we’d
all
been
found
out
cos
our
mate’s
brother…
one
of
his
mates
fancied
one
of
our
other
mates
and
wanted
to
ask
her
out.
So
he
phoned
her
up
at
one
of
our
houses…
where
she
wasn’t
staying
so
they
got
alerted.
So
their
mum
rang
my
Mum
and
Dad
and
all
this.
So
my
Mum
and
Dad…
they
parked
outside
Monroe’s
waiting
for
me
to
come
out
which
I
didn’t
know
so…
i’m
having
a
brilliant
time…
come
out.
They
don’t
find
me
but
my
Dad
tells
this
story
where
him
and Mum
set off
to
go
home
because
they’d…
you
know
they
hadn’t
found
me
and
they’ve
got
about
ten
cars
following
them…
following
behind
them
like
a
convoy.
So
my
dad’s
going…
what are
these
bloody
cars
doing
following
him?
So
he
had
to
pull
in
so
that
they’d
all
go
past
him
and
he
were
just
like…
they
were
going
to
this
bloody
Acid
House
party
so…
so
anyway
we
went
to
that
party
we
went
to
Oswaldtwistle
and
I
remember
because
we
went
past
Daisy
Dairy
about
twelve
times
trying
to
get
into
it…
and
then…
and
then
we
went
to
it…
and
I
were
going
out
with
a lad
from
Liverpool
at
the
time….
imaginatively
called
Scouse
and
then…
so
that
party
I’d
gone to
with
my
brother
i’d
gone
with
him…
gone
with Scouse
or
my
brother
so…
so
we
went
there
had
a
really
good
time
and
then
I
went
to
my
friend
Dan’s
house
and
my
brother
went
with
Scouse
and
we were
all
going
to
meet
back
up
at
mine.
My
mum
and
dad’s.
So
I
got
to
Dan’s
and
her
dad
shouts
her
upstairs
and
I
could
tell
in
his
voice
like…
oh
my
god
we’ve
been
rumbled
here…
and
so
he
says
Jackie’
in a
really
stern
voice.
I
went
upstairs
he’s
like…
where
have
you
been?
I
went..
ummmm
Caroline’s
he’s
like…
no
try
again
i’m
like
I
was
in
the
Oswaldtwistle
Yeah…
he
said…
your
mum
and
dad
know
and
he
said
I
went…
s***
they’re
going
to
kill
me…
and
she
lived
five
minutes
from
me
and
I
walked
home
my
heart
were
pounding
out
my
chest
thinking…
oh
my
god
i’ve
had
it
here.
This
is
it
so
I
got
in.
Me
dad’s
reading
the paper
me
mum’s
in
tears
just
like
sobbing
and
I’m
like…
oh
no
she
said…
we
were
worried
about
you
going
in pubs
never
mind
to
these
Acid
House
parties.
And
all
this.
So
anyway
so
i’m
being
quizzed
about
all
this
stuff.
Then
my
brother
walks
in
with
Scouse
and
my
mum
always
thought
he
were
a
bit
too
old
for
me
and
she
went
get
out
my
brother
turned
around
to
leave
she
went
not
you
him!
It
were
like a farce!
So
he
walked
out…
so
basically
my
mom
said
right
you’re
grounded.
You’re
grounded
for
a
month
right.
And
she
said
and
you’re
not
allowed
to
see
him
anymore
and
I
said
it’s
not
his
fault.
It’s
not
his
fault
I’ve
been
to
ten!
Like…
this
isn’t
the
first
one
I’ve
been
to!
I’ve
been
to
ten
She
went
right
well
you’re
grounded
for
two
months
and
you
can’t
watch
Neighbours
so
that’s
how
young
I
was
come
on
no
Neighbours?!
But
when
you’re
at
school
everyone’s
just
talking
about
it
all
time so i were
just
like…
I
felt
so
alien
like
not
being
able
to
watch
Neighbours
but
back
then
so
I
did
my
grounding
like
two
months.
Didn’t
ask
to
go
out.
Were
really
good
but
I
did
look
older
for
my
age
and
all
that
and
my
friends
were
older
so
I
think
after
that
cause
I
was
Fourteen
No
must’ve
been
Fourteen
when
I’d
done
my
grounding.
My mum
and
dad
said…
right
well
you’re
allowed
out
but
there’s
these
rules.
So
when
I
turned
like
Fifteen
my
mum
and
dad
started
being
a
bit
more
like
well
she’s
obviously
likes
dancing
she
Likes
music
what
we’re
going
to
do
we
can’t
keep
her
in
can’t
stop
her
going
out
so
we
agreed
that
I were
allowed
out
with
certain
rules
no
drinking
if
you
get
caught
drinking
that’s
it
you
know
in
by
a
certain
time
wanted
to
know
who
you’re
with
and
all
that
so
in
actually
going
to
them
and
being
found
out
actually
helped
my
relationship
with
my
mum
and
dad
in
terms
of
me
being
someone
who
wanted
to
go
dancing.
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Bad memories. (6:30 mins)
Jackie
Advice for future generations. (2:16 mins)

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The
only
the
only
negative
I
think
about
and
it’s
not
something
that
happened
at
the
time.
It’s
since…
I
think
a
lot
of
people
I
know
struggled
after
it
you
know
because
it
was
such
a
major
thing
in
lots
of
people’s
lives
and
it
was
like
this
euphoric
thing
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people
I
think
a
lot
of
people
got
into
other
kinds
of
drugs
after
it
and
all this
kind
of
stuff…
so
there
is
something
for
me
where
I
just
feel
like
maybe
one
downside
of
that
massive
euphoric
thing
was
that
some
people
struggled
after
it.
Y’know
but
but
I
don’t
I
don’t
really
remember
yeah
the
sad
things
are
the
people
who
I’ve
loved
I
got
on
with
I
who
you’d
end
up
in
Sett
End
toilet
wi’
talkin’
girls
that
were
really
funny
and
you
know
like,
you
know.
There
were
just
a
lot
of
people
who
went
down
a
different
path
after
it
and….
and
a
lot
of
those
people
I
remember
from
that
time
so
that
that’s
my
only
that’s
you
know
the
only
sad
thing
I
ever
think
about
it
but…
but
the
I
suppose
like
so
that
the
yeah
the
first
time
I
went
that’s
one
story
and
the…
the
last
party
the
last
party
I
went
to
where
I
got
found
out
it
was
one
of
them
classic…
i’m
staying
at
their
house’
they’re
staying
at
my
house
you
know
where
your
sort
of
all
staying
at
each
other’s
houses.
So
you
don’t
you
know
you…
nobody
knows
where
you
are
kind
of thing
so
we
went to
Sett
End…
no
we…
no
we
didn’t
we
went
to
Monroe’s.
That…
that
night
so
I’m
at
Monroe’s
and
I’ve
been
dancing
and
this
drip…
this
water
used
to
drip
off
the
ceiling
in
there
and
I
remember
the
drips
getting…
this
drip
on
me
and
it
burning
and
me
going…
what
the
hell
is
that?
It’s
obviously
like
sweaty
ventilation
like
dripping
onto
your
face
and
making
you…
it
were
horrible
so
anyway.
Yeah
I
was
in
there
and
unbeknownst
to
me
we’d
all
been
found
out
cos
our
mate’s
brother…
one
of
his
mates
fancied
one
of
our
other
mates
and
wanted
to
ask
her
out.
So
he
phoned
her
up
at
one
of
our
houses…
where
she
wasn’t
staying
so
they
got
alerted.
So
their
mum
rang
my
Mum
and
Dad
and
all
this.
So
my
Mum
and
Dad…
they
parked
outside
Monroe’s
waiting
for
me
to
come
out
which
I
didn’t
know
so…
i’m
having
a
brilliant
time…
come
out.
They
don’t
find
me
but
my
Dad
tells
this
story
where
him
and Mum
set off
to
go
home
because
they’d…
you
know
they
hadn’t
found
me
and
they’ve
got
about
ten
cars
following
them…
following
behind
them
like
a
convoy.
So
my
dad’s
going…
what are
these
bloody
cars
doing
following
him?
So
he
had
to
pull
in
so
that
they’d
all
go
past
him
and
he
were
just
like…
they
were
going
to
this
bloody
Acid
House
party
so…
so
anyway
we
went
to
that
party
we
went
to
Oswaldtwistle
and
I
remember
because
we
went
past
Daisy
Dairy
about
twelve
times
trying
to
get
into
it…
and
then…
and
then
we
went
to
it…
and
I
were
going
out
with
a lad
from
Liverpool
at
the
time….
imaginatively
called
Scouse
and
then…
so
that
party
I’d
gone to
with
my
brother
i’d
gone
with
him…
gone
with Scouse
or
my
brother
so…
so
we
went
there
had
a
really
good
time
and
then
I
went
to
my
friend
Dan’s
house
and
my
brother
went
with
Scouse
and
we were
all
going
to
meet
back
up
at
mine.
My
mum
and
dad’s.
So
I
got
to
Dan’s
and
her
dad
shouts
her
upstairs
and
I
could
tell
in
his
voice
like…
oh
my
god
we’ve
been
rumbled
here…
and
so
he
says
Jackie’
in a
really
stern
voice.
I
went
upstairs
he’s
like…
where
have
you
been?
I
went..
ummmm
Caroline’s
he’s
like…
no
try
again
i’m
like
I
was
in
the
Oswaldtwistle
Yeah…
he
said…
your
mum
and
dad
know
and
he
said
I
went…
s***
they’re
going
to
kill
me…
and
she
lived
five
minutes
from
me
and
I
walked
home
my
heart
were
pounding
out
my
chest
thinking…
oh
my
god
i’ve
had
it
here.
This
is
it
so
I
got
in.
Me
dad’s
reading
the paper
me
mum’s
in
tears
just
like
sobbing
and
I’m
like…
oh
no
she
said…
we
were
worried
about
you
going
in pubs
never
mind
to
these
Acid
House
parties.
And
all
this.
So
anyway
so
i’m
being
quizzed
about
all
this
stuff.
Then
my
brother
walks
in
with
Scouse
and
my
mum
always
thought
he
were
a
bit
too
old
for
me
and
she
went
get
out
my
brother
turned
around
to
leave
she
went
not
you
him!
It
were
like a farce!
So
he
walked
out…
so
basically
my
mom
said
right
you’re
grounded.
You’re
grounded
for
a
month
right.
And
she
said
and
you’re
not
allowed
to
see
him
anymore
and
I
said
it’s
not
his
fault.
It’s
not
his
fault
I’ve
been
to
ten!
Like…
this
isn’t
the
first
one
I’ve
been
to!
I’ve
been
to
ten
She
went
right
well
you’re
grounded
for
two
months
and
you
can’t
watch
Neighbours
so
that’s
how
young
I
was
come
on
no
Neighbours?!
But
when
you’re
at
school
everyone’s
just
talking
about
it
all
time so i were
just
like…
I
felt
so
alien
like
not
being
able
to
watch
Neighbours
but
back
then
so
I
did
my
grounding
like
two
months.
Didn’t
ask
to
go
out.
Were
really
good
but
I
did
look
older
for
my
age
and
all
that
and
my
friends
were
older
so
I
think
after
that
cause
I
was
Fourteen
No
must’ve
been
Fourteen
when
I’d
done
my
grounding.
My mum
and
dad
said…
right
well
you’re
allowed
out
but
there’s
these
rules.
So
when
I
turned
like
Fifteen
my
mum
and
dad
started
being
a
bit
more
like
well
she’s
obviously
likes
dancing
she
Likes
music
what
we’re
going
to
do
we
can’t
keep
her
in
can’t
stop
her
going
out
so
we
agreed
that
I were
allowed
out
with
certain
rules
no
drinking
if
you
get
caught
drinking
that’s
it
you
know
in
by
a
certain
time
wanted
to
know
who
you’re
with
and
all
that
so
in
actually
going
to
them
and
being
found
out
actually
helped
my
relationship
with
my
mum
and
dad
in
terms
of
me
being
someone
who
wanted
to
go
dancing.

Jackie Good Memories

Click to play

It
was
all
music
for
me.
It
wer’
I
like…
because
my
brother
was
really
good
at
finding
all the
stuff
that
we’d
listened
to
at the
Sett
End.
He’d
be
able
to
find…
find
and
order
them.
He
always
made
me
mix-tapes.
So
it
were
all
about
the
music
for
me
because
I
wasn’t,
you
know…
in
between
going
to
Acid
Parties
I
wer’
at school.
So
it’s
not
like…
you
know
the
parties
once
they
were
over.
I’d
just
be
like…
I’d
just
have
mix-tapes
to
get
me
through
until
the
next
one.
So
one
of
my
favorite
things
to
do
would
be
to
ring
my
friend
Caroline
at
like
8
int’
morning
when David
had give
me
a
mix-tape
so
she’d
be
on
her
way
to
school
and
I’d get
her to
listen…
to
listen
to
what
he’s
found
and…
I
just
like
put
phone
you
know
against
the
stereo
and
I’d
just
play
Caroline
all
these
like…
rave
tunes
before
she
were
going
to
school
y’know.
So
it
wer’
just
like
waiting
for
all…
to
hear
all the
stuff
that
you
heard
int’
clubs.
So
it
were
all
music
related
and
I
think
having
a
secret
with
my
brother…
we
got…
you
know
like…
it were
nice
too
because
he
knew
I
were
going
and
weren’t
going
to
grass
him
up.
I couldn’t.
And
so
it
wer’
just
nice
having
that
thing
that
wer’
just
me
and
my
brothers
as
well.
So
you’ve
got
a
little
secret
together
that
you…
you
know
that…
that
you
can…
you
can
do.
And
I
also
used
to
like…
I
used
to…
some
people
didn’t
like
this…
But
I
used
to
like
it
when
certain…
certain
music
that
you
heard
at
the
parties.
Some
of
it
would
break through
on
Top
of
the
Pops
and
stuff
like
that.
So
you’d
be
like
sat
there.
My
mum
and
dad
musta’
been
thinking
God
why’s
why
is
Jackie
going
so
mad
to
this
song
dancing
about
?
But
it’s
because
I’d
been
in
a
warehouse
you
know.
Three
days
before
I was
dancing
to
it
and
you…
you
can’t
like…
can’t
let
on
but
they
wer’
all
the
highlights.
Were
just
all…
all
the
music
and…
and
just
seeing
lots
of
people
all
loved
up.
I
mean
for
whatever
reasons.
I
would’na
known
fully
when
I
was
that
age…
but
it
wer’
just
good.
In
a
large…
people
being…
being
nice
to
each
other.
Y’know
on
mass.
It
were
really…
it
really
lovely.
So
they
were
like
high
points
it
were
just
music
and
everyone’s
attitude
when
they
were
there.
Just
everyone
were
looking
out
for
each
other
that
wer’
my
experience
of
it
and
all
my
brothers
mates.
He
had…
they
all
knew
I was
his
little
sister
so
they
don’t…
you
know…
I’d
always
have
someone
checking
you
know…
all
checking
on
me
and
seeing
how
I was
and
stuff.
So
I
always
felt
really
safe
even
though
it
were
an
illegal
party.
I
felt
very
safe.
That
was
going
to
be
my
next
question.
Y’know
as
someone
who
was
13
or
14
around
the
time.
How
were
you…
how
were
you
treated?
How
did
you…
did
people
know
you
you
were
that
age?
How
were
you
perceived
in
that
group
of
like…
largely
older..
although
there
was
a
lot
of
people
who were
there
as
sort
of
14…
15…
16…
year-olds
but
you
are
probably
the
youngest
person
that
we
think
was
at
those
parties.
Yeah
like
I
said…
so
I
you
know…
I
wouldn’t
go
to
all
parties
with
my
brother
because
he
had
his
own
thing
going
on.
So
I’d
go
with
another
group
of
mates
but
that
group
of
mates
knew
my
brother
as
well.
So
it
wer’
just
yeah…
I
never
felt…
I
never
felt
unsafe
at
all.
It
were…
there
were
always…
there
were
always
a
big
gang
of
us.
So
it
worked
like…
you
know…
the
first
party
me and
Caroline
went
to
on
our
own…
but
we
always
knew
people
in
there
so…
Yeah
I
didn’t
feel…
I
don’t
know
I
still
struggle
to
know
how
to
process.
It
were
going
on
at
the
time
because
it
were…
because
I
probably
went
to
10
parties
all
in
all.
And
yeah
it
were..
it
were
a
period
in
time
where
it
just…
it
did
feel
really
exciting
and
I
didn’t
feel
like
I
were
being
naughty.
I
just
didn’t.
It
just…
it
never
felt…
I
don’t
think
any
of
it
was…
I
was
doing
it
because
it
was
thrilling
and
it
was
you
know…
I
don’t
remember
feeling
like
that
because
I
don’t
think
I
was
like…
you
know…
I
was
quite
a
well-behaved
kid,
you
know.
I
wasn’t
like
wild
child.
It
sounds
like
it
because
I
was
13
going
to
warehouse
parties
but
I
wasn’t.
I
was
a
really
well-behaved
kid.
It
was
just
that
I
loved
music
and
loved
dancing.
So
it
were
about
that.
It
weren’t
because
it
was
something
naughty
you
know.
I
think
that
were
the
least…
least
of
it
for
me.
The
like…
the…
it
being
illegal.
I
don’t
think
that
really
did
anything
for
me.
Now Playing:
Jackie
Good memories. (4:37 mins)
Jackie
Bad memories. (6:30 mins)

Full Transcript:

It
was
all
music
for
me.
It
wer’
I
like…
because
my
brother
was
really
good
at
finding
all the
stuff
that
we’d
listened
to
at the
Sett
End.
He’d
be
able
to
find…
find
and
order
them.
He
always
made
me
mix-tapes.
So
it
were
all
about
the
music
for
me
because
I
wasn’t,
you
know…
in
between
going
to
Acid
Parties
I
wer’
at school.
So
it’s
not
like…
you
know
the
parties
once
they
were
over.
I’d
just
be
like…
I’d
just
have
mix-tapes
to
get
me
through
until
the
next
one.
So
one
of
my
favorite
things
to
do
would
be
to
ring
my
friend
Caroline
at
like
8
int’
morning
when David
had give
me
a
mix-tape
so
she’d
be
on
her
way
to
school
and
I’d get
her to
listen…
to
listen
to
what
he’s
found
and…
I
just
like
put
phone
you
know
against
the
stereo
and
I’d
just
play
Caroline
all
these
like…
rave
tunes
before
she
were
going
to
school
y’know.
So
it
wer’
just
like
waiting
for
all…
to
hear
all the
stuff
that
you
heard
int’
clubs.
So
it
were
all
music
related
and
I
think
having
a
secret
with
my
brother…
we
got…
you
know
like…
it were
nice
too
because
he
knew
I
were
going
and
weren’t
going
to
grass
him
up.
I couldn’t.
And
so
it
wer’
just
nice
having
that
thing
that
wer’
just
me
and
my
brothers
as
well.
So
you’ve
got
a
little
secret
together
that
you…
you
know
that…
that
you
can…
you
can
do.
And
I
also
used
to
like…
I
used
to…
some
people
didn’t
like
this…
But
I
used
to
like
it
when
certain…
certain
music
that
you
heard
at
the
parties.
Some
of
it
would
break through
on
Top
of
the
Pops
and
stuff
like
that.
So
you’d
be
like
sat
there.
My
mum
and
dad
musta’
been
thinking
God
why’s
why
is
Jackie
going
so
mad
to
this
song
dancing
about
?
But
it’s
because
I’d
been
in
a
warehouse
you
know.
Three
days
before
I was
dancing
to
it
and
you…
you
can’t
like…
can’t
let
on
but
they
wer’
all
the
highlights.
Were
just
all…
all
the
music
and…
and
just
seeing
lots
of
people
all
loved
up.
I
mean
for
whatever
reasons.
I
would’na
known
fully
when
I
was
that
age…
but
it
wer’
just
good.
In
a
large…
people
being…
being
nice
to
each
other.
Y’know
on
mass.
It
were
really…
it
really
lovely.
So
they
were
like
high
points
it
were
just
music
and
everyone’s
attitude
when
they
were
there.
Just
everyone
were
looking
out
for
each
other
that
wer’
my
experience
of
it
and
all
my
brothers
mates.
He
had…
they
all
knew
I was
his
little
sister
so
they
don’t…
you
know…
I’d
always
have
someone
checking
you
know…
all
checking
on
me
and
seeing
how
I was
and
stuff.
So
I
always
felt
really
safe
even
though
it
were
an
illegal
party.
I
felt
very
safe.
That
was
going
to
be
my
next
question.
Y’know
as
someone
who
was
13
or
14
around
the
time.
How
were
you…
how
were
you
treated?
How
did
you…
did
people
know
you
you
were
that
age?
How
were
you
perceived
in
that
group
of
like…
largely
older..
although
there
was
a
lot
of
people
who were
there
as
sort
of
14…
15…
16…
year-olds
but
you
are
probably
the
youngest
person
that
we
think
was
at
those
parties.
Yeah
like
I
said…
so
I
you
know…
I
wouldn’t
go
to
all
parties
with
my
brother
because
he
had
his
own
thing
going
on.
So
I’d
go
with
another
group
of
mates
but
that
group
of
mates
knew
my
brother
as
well.
So
it
wer’
just
yeah…
I
never
felt…
I
never
felt
unsafe
at
all.
It
were…
there
were
always…
there
were
always
a
big
gang
of
us.
So
it
worked
like…
you
know…
the
first
party
me and
Caroline
went
to
on
our
own…
but
we
always
knew
people
in
there
so…
Yeah
I
didn’t
feel…
I
don’t
know
I
still
struggle
to
know
how
to
process.
It
were
going
on
at
the
time
because
it
were…
because
I
probably
went
to
10
parties
all
in
all.
And
yeah
it
were..
it
were
a
period
in
time
where
it
just…
it
did
feel
really
exciting
and
I
didn’t
feel
like
I
were
being
naughty.
I
just
didn’t.
It
just…
it
never
felt…
I
don’t
think
any
of
it
was…
I
was
doing
it
because
it
was
thrilling
and
it
was
you
know…
I
don’t
remember
feeling
like
that
because
I
don’t
think
I
was
like…
you
know…
I
was
quite
a
well-behaved
kid,
you
know.
I
wasn’t
like
wild
child.
It
sounds
like
it
because
I
was
13
going
to
warehouse
parties
but
I
wasn’t.
I
was
a
really
well-behaved
kid.
It
was
just
that
I
loved
music
and
loved
dancing.
So
it
were
about
that.
It
weren’t
because
it
was
something
naughty
you
know.
I
think
that
were
the
least…
least
of
it
for
me.
The
like…
the…
it
being
illegal.
I
don’t
think
that
really
did
anything
for
me.

Jackie Getting Involved Part 2

Click to play

So
the
first
party
that
I
went
to
so
I
went
with
my
best
friend
Caroline
at
the
time
and
I
think
it
was
it
was
at
Glenfield
Park
and
I
remember
there
being
a
bit
of
a
scary
moment
when
we
got
you
know
we
got
out
of
the
car
and
then
started
walking
up
this
little
side
bit
at
Glenfield
Park
and
then
I’m
sure
somebody
said
ah
there’s
police
dogs
and
everybody
started
running
back round
round
the
front
of
the
building
anyway
so
me
and
Caroline
who’re
like
queuing
up
outside
waiting
to
get
in
like
really
excited
nervous
and
I
just
heard
someone
shout
shout
my
name
my
full
name
and
I
thought
oh
God
Oh
God
who
is
this?
i’m
in
it
now
that’s
it
someone’s
sitting
there
and
I
looked
up
and
it
were
a
lad
called
Scotty
who
used
to
play
Crown
Green
bowls
with
my
dad
so
he’d
spotted
me
queuing
up
and
I
just
went
running
over
and
he went
‘come
here!”
I
went
“please don’t tell my Dad!”
anyway
“get
in
there
get
in
there!”
so
the
first
party
I
ever
got
into
was
because
of
a
bloke
that
played
Crown
Green
bowls
with
my
dad
but
my
friend
Caroline
was
older
than
me
and
I’m
sure
she
must
have
thought
I
were
dead
cool
to
get
us
into
our
first
acid
party
but
nothing
but
it
were
just
like
me
dad’s
mate
who
probably
wanted
to
keep
an
eye
on
us
so
that
was
that
were
me
first
I ever
ever
went
to…
I don’t
know
it’s
really
hard
to
remember
how
I
felt
going
into
there
but
I
it
were
all
about
the
dancing
for
me
I
just
loved
dancing
and
and
seeing
everybody
just
all
doing
the
same
thing
at
the
same
time
I’d
never
seen
I’d
never
seen
that
before
you
know
what
you
know
it’s
your
first
Club
experience
really
but
you’re
in
a
big
warehouse
but
it
were
just
just
seeing
a
mass
of
people
all
doing
the
same
thing
at
the
same
time
was
just
the
best
thing
I’d
ever
seen.
Now Playing:
Jackie
Getting involved part 2. (2:13 mins)
Jackie
Good memories. (4:37 mins)

Full Transcript:

So
the
first
party
that
I
went
to
so
I
went
with
my
best
friend
Caroline
at
the
time
and
I
think
it
was
it
was
at
Glenfield
Park
and
I
remember
there
being
a
bit
of
a
scary
moment
when
we
got
you
know
we
got
out
of
the
car
and
then
started
walking
up
this
little
side
bit
at
Glenfield
Park
and
then
I’m
sure
somebody
said
ah
there’s
police
dogs
and
everybody
started
running
back round
round
the
front
of
the
building
anyway
so
me
and
Caroline
who’re
like
queuing
up
outside
waiting
to
get
in
like
really
excited
nervous
and
I
just
heard
someone
shout
shout
my
name
my
full
name
and
I
thought
oh
God
Oh
God
who
is
this?
i’m
in
it
now
that’s
it
someone’s
sitting
there
and
I
looked
up
and
it
were
a
lad
called
Scotty
who
used
to
play
Crown
Green
bowls
with
my
dad
so
he’d
spotted
me
queuing
up
and
I
just
went
running
over
and
he went
‘come
here!”
I
went
“please don’t tell my Dad!”
anyway
“get
in
there
get
in
there!”
so
the
first
party
I
ever
got
into
was
because
of
a
bloke
that
played
Crown
Green
bowls
with
my
dad
but
my
friend
Caroline
was
older
than
me
and
I’m
sure
she
must
have
thought
I
were
dead
cool
to
get
us
into
our
first
acid
party
but
nothing
but
it
were
just
like
me
dad’s
mate
who
probably
wanted
to
keep
an
eye
on
us
so
that
was
that
were
me
first
I ever
ever
went
to…
I don’t
know
it’s
really
hard
to
remember
how
I
felt
going
into
there
but
I
it
were
all
about
the
dancing
for
me
I
just
loved
dancing
and
and
seeing
everybody
just
all
doing
the
same
thing
at
the
same
time
I’d
never
seen
I’d
never
seen
that
before
you
know
what
you
know
it’s
your
first
Club
experience
really
but
you’re
in
a
big
warehouse
but
it
were
just
just
seeing
a
mass
of
people
all
doing
the
same
thing
at
the
same
time
was
just
the
best
thing
I’d
ever
seen.

Jackie Getting Involved Part 1

Click to play

So
I
think
how
I
ended
up
going
to
the
parties
in
Blackburn
it
was
all
because
of
my
older
brother
David
and
he’d
been
going
to
sett
end
and
going
to
some
at
parties
and
so
I
knew
about
it
so
I
were
like
he
were
a
bit
older
than
me
so
I
were
keeping
it
a
secret
though
cuz
I
don’t
know
if
mum
and
dad
knew
at
the
time
and
so
I
went
from
like
playing
with
Barbies
to
going
to
going
to
acid
parties
within
a
year
it
was
such
a
fast
transition
it
were
really
weird
so
I
remember
being
fast
asleep
in
our
terraced
house
in
Blackburn
and
my
brother
getting
in
at
like
I
don’t
know
half
four
in
morning
or
someat
opened
my
bedroom
door
and
woke
me
up
his
thirteen
year
old
sister
he’s
like
Jack
Jack
i’m
like
what
what
what
you
want
he’s
like
I’ve
just
heard
a
song
I’ve
just
heard
a
song
he
might’ve
said
track
I
always
feel
weird
saying
track
but
he
said
I’ve
just
heard
some
music
where
it
sounded
like
there
were
a
submarine
in
it
but
I
went
oh
brilliant
okay
get
out
get
out
my
room
you
know
it
were
like
half
four in
morning
and
then
so
then
you
know
it
weren’t
like
now
where
you
can
just
go
online
and
see
what
that
that
track
was
you
know
he
had
to
go
to
astonishing
sounds
record
shop
in
Blackburn
wait
for
it
to
come
and
all this
so
about
a
week
and a half
later
he
said
hey
come
and
listen
to
that
music
I were
on
about
so
we
sat
in
his
bedroom
and
it
were
Pacific
State
by
808
State
and
I
just
thought
it
were the
best
thing
i’d
ever
heard
and
and
it
just
made
me
go
I
want
to
go
wherever
that’s
being
played
basically
so
I
think
I’d
need
to
check with
my
brother
but
I
think
I
probably
went
to
my
first
to
the
sett
end
and
then
to
my
first
acid
party
a
week
after
hearing
that
because
I
just
just
couldn’t
believe
it
yeah
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Getting involved part 2. (2:13 mins)

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So
I
think
how
I
ended
up
going
to
the
parties
in
Blackburn
it
was
all
because
of
my
older
brother
David
and
he’d
been
going
to
sett
end
and
going
to
some
at
parties
and
so
I
knew
about
it
so
I
were
like
he
were
a
bit
older
than
me
so
I
were
keeping
it
a
secret
though
cuz
I
don’t
know
if
mum
and
dad
knew
at
the
time
and
so
I
went
from
like
playing
with
Barbies
to
going
to
going
to
acid
parties
within
a
year
it
was
such
a
fast
transition
it
were
really
weird
so
I
remember
being
fast
asleep
in
our
terraced
house
in
Blackburn
and
my
brother
getting
in
at
like
I
don’t
know
half
four
in
morning
or
someat
opened
my
bedroom
door
and
woke
me
up
his
thirteen
year
old
sister
he’s
like
Jack
Jack
i’m
like
what
what
what
you
want
he’s
like
I’ve
just
heard
a
song
I’ve
just
heard
a
song
he
might’ve
said
track
I
always
feel
weird
saying
track
but
he
said
I’ve
just
heard
some
music
where
it
sounded
like
there
were
a
submarine
in
it
but
I
went
oh
brilliant
okay
get
out
get
out
my
room
you
know
it
were
like
half
four in
morning
and
then
so
then
you
know
it
weren’t
like
now
where
you
can
just
go
online
and
see
what
that
that
track
was
you
know
he
had
to
go
to
astonishing
sounds
record
shop
in
Blackburn
wait
for
it
to
come
and
all this
so
about
a
week
and a half
later
he
said
hey
come
and
listen
to
that
music
I were
on
about
so
we
sat
in
his
bedroom
and
it
were
Pacific
State
by
808
State
and
I
just
thought
it
were the
best
thing
i’d
ever
heard
and
and
it
just
made
me
go
I
want
to
go
wherever
that’s
being
played
basically
so
I
think
I’d
need
to
check with
my
brother
but
I
think
I
probably
went
to
my
first
to
the
sett
end
and
then
to
my
first
acid
party
a
week
after
hearing
that
because
I
just
just
couldn’t
believe
it
yeah

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I
lived
in
Great
Harwood
which
I
understand
is
is
a bit
of an
epicenter
really
for
the
scene.
And
I
remember
actually,
I
don’t
know
maybe
about
three
or
four
years
ago.
I
had
a
workman
who
erm…
came
to
do
something
on
the
house…
and
he
said
the
only
other
time
I’ve
been
to
Great
Harwood
is
to
a rave
at
Monroe’s
you
know,
and
that
would
have
been
in
the
Nineties
so
It
was
it
was
quite…
quite
funny
actually
to
hear
that
because
you
forget
that
you
know
about
these
things
that
go
on
and
it
was
funny
that
his…
his
memory
of
where…
the
small
little
village
really…
where
I
live
is,
you
know,
it
was
big
on
the
kind
of
the
rave
scene.
Brilliant.
So
what
was
your
what
would
you
call
your
involvement
in
that
era…
and
that
time?
Okay,
so
I
lived
quite
close
to
a
club
which
was
called
Monroe’s
it
was
previously
a
football
social
club
and
then
over
over time
kind
of…
moved
from…
from
being
that
type
of
scene…
so
it
was
kind
of
more
of
a
disco
night,
which
was…
it
was
open
Friday
Saturday
Sunday.
So
as
I
remember
and
kind
of
started
to
change
into
Monroe’s
so
it
became
a
bit
more…
a different
type
of
music
which
was
more
prevalent
at
the
time
and
then
over
more
time…
became
a
bit more of
a venue
that
was
a
bit
more…
how
I
described
as
a
warehouse
it
was
dark
in
there,
you
know,
you
couldn’t
see
much.
So
yeah,
that
was
Monroe’s
Now
I
lived
close
by
to
there…
not
too
close
where
you
could
hear
things
all
the
time.
So
you
couldn’t
particularly
hear
any
music
because
it’s
quite
well
soundproofed
but
what
you
could
see
and
hear…
at
various
times
usually
kind
of
later
that
night
and
then
early
morning
was…
convoys.
So
there
would
be
cars
vans
people
just
racking
up
in
a
big
trail.
I
understood
that
they
use
to
get
a
call
or
they
get
a
code
or
something,
you
know
with
an
address
and
people
would
just
turn
up
and
for
me
it
was
quite
exciting
because
sometimes
I’d
just
be
wandering
home
from
a
night
out.
So,
you
know,
I
kind
of
walked
by
that
way
and
you
see
everybody
in
the
cars…
hanging
out
the
windows
and
shouting
to
each
other.
From
a
neighborhood
point
of
view…
as
I
say…
I
lived
with
my
parents
and
they
were
older
parents
if
you
will.
They
had
me
quite
late
in
life.
It
didn’t
faze
them
at
all.
They
were
okay.
I
think
if
there
were
people
that
were
complaining
it
was
probably
not
that
they
were
being
disturbed
as
such..
to
me
it
would
have
been
a
bit
more
that
they
felt
maybe
a
little
bit
unsettled
and
a
bit
frightened
because
when
you
get
groups
of
people
coming
together
in
bulk,
you
know,
that
can
be
a
bit
intimidating
but
perhaps
I’m…
I’m
just
taking
it
from
my
point
of
view
I
wasn’t
intimidated
by
it.
If
anything,
I
think
my
set
of
friends
we
were
kind
of
into
a
different…
different
type
of
music.
We
were
more
intrigued
by
it.
I
actually
went
once
in
the
early
stages…
went
down
at
the
end
of
my
night
out.
So
I’d
been
round
the
pubs
and
I
could
even
have
been
down
Blackburn
and
been
to
a
club
in
Blackburn
and
finished
up
down
at
Monroe’s
and
for
me,
it
was
a
real
letdown
because
the
music
wasn’t
my
type
of
music,
but…
you
couldn’t
get
a
drink.
I remember
going
in
and
going
up
and
trying
to
order
a
drink
and
there was
just
bottles
of
water
because
obviously
it
was
a
different
scene.
So
for
me,
that
wasn’t
good
and
I
don’t
think
I
went
again
to
that
particular
venue.
I
think
as
time
went
on
and
the
scene
came..
the
scene
became
a
bit
more
developed
if
that’s
the
right
word?
And
more…
hardcore
if
that’s
the
right
phrase
as
well?
I
then
finished
up
one
night
at
a
place
in
Nelson
and
I
have
no
idea
what
it
was
called.
But
again,
it
was
a
rave
in
Nelson.
And
I
remember
going
there…
again
more
out
of
curiosity
than…
than
anything
else
and
you
could
actually
get
a
drink
there.
So
that
was
all
right….
kind
of
placated
me
a
little
bit.
But
that
was…
that
was
quite
a
heavy
thing.
I
would
have
said
very…
very
dark
and
deep
as
it
were
for
me.
So
yeah,
that’s
that’s
my
recollection
of
things.
And
can
I
ask
you
there’s
erm..
there
was
lots
of
newspaper
articles
that
came
out
in
local
papers.
And
I
think
that’s
the
dominant
expression
of
how
residents
and
people
who
lived
in
that
area
felt.
Did
you
read
those
at
the
time?
Did
you
feel…
were
they
sensationalised
because
from
your
account…
it
didn’t
feel
like
residents
were
as
upset as
some
of
those
newspaper
articles
felt.
Erm…
I
don’t
particularly
remember
reading
them,
but
at
the
time
I
will
have
been
I’m
sure
kind
of
party
to
gossip
and
what
people
were
saying.
Kind
of
early
Nineties
as
well…
I
worked
for
myself
and
I
had
a
cafe
and
people
used
to
come
in
and
sort
of
tell
us
tales
about
what
would…
what
had
gone
on
over
the
weekend…
Oh
yeah
there
was
lots
of
cars…
and
lots
of
noise
and
lights…
everybody
had
the
headlights
on
and
you
could
see
it
driving
from
Rishton
which
is
kind
of
the
town
where
you
would
come
into
Great
Harwood
because
that
had
more
of
the
networks…
the
road
networks,
but
for
me,
I
don’t
remember
it
being
anything
that
was
disturbing
or
people
were
really
anxious
about
it.
But
you
know,
I
think
you
have
a
different
take
on
it when you’re
younger
anyway
perhaps
for
older
people,
you
know,
they
might have
felt
really
phased
by
it
and
very
unsettled.
But
certainly
I
don’t…
I
don’t
have
that
memory
of
it.
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Jackie
Getting involved part 1. (2:03 mins)

Full Transcript:

I
lived
in
Great
Harwood
which
I
understand
is
is
a bit
of an
epicenter
really
for
the
scene.
And
I
remember
actually,
I
don’t
know
maybe
about
three
or
four
years
ago.
I
had
a
workman
who
erm…
came
to
do
something
on
the
house…
and
he
said
the
only
other
time
I’ve
been
to
Great
Harwood
is
to
a rave
at
Monroe’s
you
know,
and
that
would
have
been
in
the
Nineties
so
It
was
it
was
quite…
quite
funny
actually
to
hear
that
because
you
forget
that
you
know
about
these
things
that
go
on
and
it
was
funny
that
his…
his
memory
of
where…
the
small
little
village
really…
where
I
live
is,
you
know,
it
was
big
on
the
kind
of
the
rave
scene.
Brilliant.
So
what
was
your
what
would
you
call
your
involvement
in
that
era…
and
that
time?
Okay,
so
I
lived
quite
close
to
a
club
which
was
called
Monroe’s
it
was
previously
a
football
social
club
and
then
over
over time
kind
of…
moved
from…
from
being
that
type
of
scene…
so
it
was
kind
of
more
of
a
disco
night,
which
was…
it
was
open
Friday
Saturday
Sunday.
So
as
I
remember
and
kind
of
started
to
change
into
Monroe’s
so
it
became
a
bit
more…
a different
type
of
music
which
was
more
prevalent
at
the
time
and
then
over
more
time…
became
a
bit more of
a venue
that
was
a
bit
more…
how
I
described
as
a
warehouse
it
was
dark
in
there,
you
know,
you
couldn’t
see
much.
So
yeah,
that
was
Monroe’s
Now
I
lived
close
by
to
there…
not
too
close
where
you
could
hear
things
all
the
time.
So
you
couldn’t
particularly
hear
any
music
because
it’s
quite
well
soundproofed
but
what
you
could
see
and
hear…
at
various
times
usually
kind
of
later
that
night
and
then
early
morning
was…
convoys.
So
there
would
be
cars
vans
people
just
racking
up
in
a
big
trail.
I
understood
that
they
use
to
get
a
call
or
they
get
a
code
or
something,
you
know
with
an
address
and
people
would
just
turn
up
and
for
me
it
was
quite
exciting
because
sometimes
I’d
just
be
wandering
home
from
a
night
out.
So,
you
know,
I
kind
of
walked
by
that
way
and
you
see
everybody
in
the
cars…
hanging
out
the
windows
and
shouting
to
each
other.
From
a
neighborhood
point
of
view…
as
I
say…
I
lived
with
my
parents
and
they
were
older
parents
if
you
will.
They
had
me
quite
late
in
life.
It
didn’t
faze
them
at
all.
They
were
okay.
I
think
if
there
were
people
that
were
complaining
it
was
probably
not
that
they
were
being
disturbed
as
such..
to
me
it
would
have
been
a
bit
more
that
they
felt
maybe
a
little
bit
unsettled
and
a
bit
frightened
because
when
you
get
groups
of
people
coming
together
in
bulk,
you
know,
that
can
be
a
bit
intimidating
but
perhaps
I’m…
I’m
just
taking
it
from
my
point
of
view
I
wasn’t
intimidated
by
it.
If
anything,
I
think
my
set
of
friends
we
were
kind
of
into
a
different…
different
type
of
music.
We
were
more
intrigued
by
it.
I
actually
went
once
in
the
early
stages…
went
down
at
the
end
of
my
night
out.
So
I’d
been
round
the
pubs
and
I
could
even
have
been
down
Blackburn
and
been
to
a
club
in
Blackburn
and
finished
up
down
at
Monroe’s
and
for
me,
it
was
a
real
letdown
because
the
music
wasn’t
my
type
of
music,
but…
you
couldn’t
get
a
drink.
I remember
going
in
and
going
up
and
trying
to
order
a
drink
and
there was
just
bottles
of
water
because
obviously
it
was
a
different
scene.
So
for
me,
that
wasn’t
good
and
I
don’t
think
I
went
again
to
that
particular
venue.
I
think
as
time
went
on
and
the
scene
came..
the
scene
became
a
bit
more
developed
if
that’s
the
right
word?
And
more…
hardcore
if
that’s
the
right
phrase
as
well?
I
then
finished
up
one
night
at
a
place
in
Nelson
and
I
have
no
idea
what
it
was
called.
But
again,
it
was
a
rave
in
Nelson.
And
I
remember
going
there…
again
more
out
of
curiosity
than…
than
anything
else
and
you
could
actually
get
a
drink
there.
So
that
was
all
right….
kind
of
placated
me
a
little
bit.
But
that
was…
that
was
quite
a
heavy
thing.
I
would
have
said
very…
very
dark
and
deep
as
it
were
for
me.
So
yeah,
that’s
that’s
my
recollection
of
things.
And
can
I
ask
you
there’s
erm..
there
was
lots
of
newspaper
articles
that
came
out
in
local
papers.
And
I
think
that’s
the
dominant
expression
of
how
residents
and
people
who
lived
in
that
area
felt.
Did
you
read
those
at
the
time?
Did
you
feel…
were
they
sensationalised
because
from
your
account…
it
didn’t
feel
like
residents
were
as
upset as
some
of
those
newspaper
articles
felt.
Erm…
I
don’t
particularly
remember
reading
them,
but
at
the
time
I
will
have
been
I’m
sure
kind
of
party
to
gossip
and
what
people
were
saying.
Kind
of
early
Nineties
as
well…
I
worked
for
myself
and
I
had
a
cafe
and
people
used
to
come
in
and
sort
of
tell
us
tales
about
what
would…
what
had
gone
on
over
the
weekend…
Oh
yeah
there
was
lots
of
cars…
and
lots
of
noise
and
lights…
everybody
had
the
headlights
on
and
you
could
see
it
driving
from
Rishton
which
is
kind
of
the
town
where
you
would
come
into
Great
Harwood
because
that
had
more
of
the
networks…
the
road
networks,
but
for
me,
I
don’t
remember
it
being
anything
that
was
disturbing
or
people
were
really
anxious
about
it.
But
you
know,
I
think
you
have
a
different
take
on
it when you’re
younger
anyway
perhaps
for
older
people,
you
know,
they
might have
felt
really
phased
by
it
and
very
unsettled.
But
certainly
I
don’t…
I
don’t
have
that
memory
of
it.