Cono Advice For Future Generations

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What
do
you
say
to
a
kid
in
a
100
years
about
that
time?
I’m
going
to
say it
I
just
hope
you’ve
got
the
same
freedom
in
a
100
years
that
sadly
you
wouldn’t
have
if
you
were
living
in
the
year
2019
or
2020
because
we
could
all
hang
around
in
cars
together
we
could
do
what
we
wanted
where
we
wanted.
We
didn’t
have
CCTV
wherever
we
went,
you
know,
we
could
go
an’
get
into
a
factory
or
a
warehouse
and
have
a
party
and
no
one
could
stop
us
with
Criminal
Justice
Bill
and
all
the
rest
of
it.
So
I
hope
your
generations,
you
know,
is better
than
what
it
is
at
the
minute
for
my
daughter’s
generation.
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What
do
you
say
to
a
kid
in
a
100
years
about
that
time?
I’m
going
to
say it
I
just
hope
you’ve
got
the
same
freedom
in
a
100
years
that
sadly
you
wouldn’t
have
if
you
were
living
in
the
year
2019
or
2020
because
we
could
all
hang
around
in
cars
together
we
could
do
what
we
wanted
where
we
wanted.
We
didn’t
have
CCTV
wherever
we
went,
you
know,
we
could
go
an’
get
into
a
factory
or
a
warehouse
and
have
a
party
and
no
one
could
stop
us
with
Criminal
Justice
Bill
and
all
the
rest
of
it.
So
I
hope
your
generations,
you
know,
is better
than
what
it
is
at
the
minute
for
my
daughter’s
generation.

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How
did
you
get
involved?
Basically,
the
maddest
story
of
all
aload
of
us
had
gone
in
a
couple
of
cars
up
to
Rivington
Pike
and
you
know,
it
was
the
Summer
of
89
So
we were
all
enjoying
ourselves
up
there and
the next
thing
about
6 or
7
in
the
morning
we
ended
up
at
Charnock
Richard
services
and
we
bumped
into
these
4
people
2
lads
2
girls
and
they
were
like
the
strangest
dressed
people
we’d
seen
we
were
like,
woah!
We
were
used
to
wearing
like
suede
boots
trainers
or
whatever
and
and
like,
you
know
desert
boots
jeans
denim
shirt,
we were
all
into
Pink
Floyd
or
Hawkwind
all
that
kinda
stuff
and
we
said
we
said
where
have you
lot been
dressed
like
that?
Fancy
dress?
And
they
said
no
no
we’ve
been
playing
at the
Red Parrot.
And we
were
like
what?
Red
Parrot?
We were
like what?
Red Parrot.
They
said
Sett
End.
And
we
were
like
you’ve
lost
us.
They
said
we’re
from
Blackburn.
And
we
went…
right.
okay..
and
and
what
was
it?
And
they
said
no,
it’s
a
club
and
we
were
like
okay…
So
what
do
you
do
at
the
club?
They
said
oh
it’s
Acid
House.
And
we
said
right…
okay…
and
they
seemed
really
nice
people.
They
said
you
want
to
come
along
sometime?
So
we
said
yeah,
we
will
do.
Next
thing
about
a few
weeks
later
there
was
flyers
going
out
for
Live
The Dream
So
we
all
thought
right
we’re
going
to
go
to
this.
So a
couple
of
carloads
went
up
to
Live
The
Dream.
Never
really
looked
back
after
that.
But
but
the
thing
was
the
week
later
we
ended
up
going
to
this
Sett
End
Red
Parrot
just
couldn’t
believe
the
queue
outside.
I
mean,
you
know,
there
was
there
was
a
lot
of
people
even
September
89
it
was
busy.
Queued
up
obviously
certain
people
were on
the
door
that
were only
letting
certain
people
in…
say
no
names
and
we
just
didn’t
fit
the
bill
because
obviously
we
weren’t
good
looking
girls
and
It
was
like
sorry
we’re
full..
Said
right
no
worries.
So
we
ended
up
just
thought
right
soddit.
Let’s
go
and
have
a
beer.
So
we
went
around
the
back
of
the
place
goes
into
this
back
door
just
like
a
normal
working
man
style
club
next
thing…
and
that
night
we were
having
a
beer
and
this
bloody
lunatic
bounces
out
from
behind
the
counter
in
a
leather
flying
jacket
and
a
beret
and
he
said
where
are you
lot
from?
And
we
said
from
Ormskirk
And
he
went
err
near
Southport?
We
said
yeah,
he
said,
all
right
sound.
And
his
name
was?
Scotty.
Which
we
found
out
later
that
night
and err
what
a
guy
but
he
actually
moved
to
Southport
very
good
guy
you
know
miss him
lovely
bloke
but err
a
long
story
short
it
was
just
the
most
surreal…
you’ve
got
a
queue
outside
you
got
cars
outside
you’ve
got
people
that
can’t
get
in
you’ve
got
people
like
us
come
down
from
Ormskirk
and
that
like
thinking
bloody
hell this
is
mad.
We’re
in
this
little
working man’s
bar
and
it
was
just
dismal
the
next
thing
we’re
walked
around
the
back
of
the
bar
he
said
come
through here
and oh
my
God.
There
was
just
strobes
and
lights
and
everything
else
and
everyone
was
dancing
on
chairs
and
this
and
that
it was
just
like,
oh
my
God.
We’re
like this
is
it,
you
know,
we
had
probably
the next
best
night
to
Live
The
Dream
we’d
ever had
we’re
all
getting
in
the
car
to
go
home
next
thing
and
that
this
couple
come
up
to
and
say…
You
going
the
party?
We were
like
what
party?
They
said
the
party
We
were
like
what
party?
A
party
at someone’s
house?
You
know,
we were
oblivious
to
this.
We were
like
19
and
when
they
said
no…
no
parrrrty
and
we
said, no…
And
they said
just
follow
cars
just
follow
cars
and
we were like
right!
Okay!
So
we
ended
up
following
all
the
cars
and
then
just
in
this
disused
god
knows
what
it
was
with
the
toilet
that was
smashed
to
bits
and
probably
about
500
people
600
in
there
and
it
was
just
amazing.
I
mean
that…
that…
that
to
me
I
can
still
remember
every
bit
of
that
bit,
but
I
don’t
remember
the
party…
don’t
remember
getting
back.
And
then
every
week
we
went
Sett
End
there
was
there
was
I
mean
if
you
want
me
to
talk
about
Sett
End
a
bit
more
the
stories
of
that
I
could
tell
but
there
was
one
night
one
lad
and
he
been
trying
to
get
in
for
ages
and a
certain
person
on
the
door
again,
and
that
night he
was
like
you
piss
off
you’re
drug
squad.
And he went…
I’m
not
he
said
you
are
and
this
lad
went
and
picked
a
brick
up
went
around
the
side
put
the
toilet
window
through
and
he
ran
round
with
the doorman
and
we
thought…
oh
my
God
he’s
gonna
get
filled
in.
He
said
eh…
was
that
you?
And
he
went…
Yeah.
And
he
said,
well
you’re
definitely
not
drug
squad…
come
on
you
can
come
in
He’s
free in
and that
was
it.
So
we just
thought
this
is
crazy!
We’ve
come
to
a
place
people
are
smashing
windows
and
getting
in
for
free
because
they’re
not
drug
squad!
It
was
just
it
was
surreal
and
every
week
there
was
surreal
and
if
you
got
in
ye were
lucky
if
you
didn’t
you
knew
there was
going
to
be
a
party
afterwards
and
right
the
way
through
until
New
Years
Eve
going
in
from
89
to
90
that
was
amazing.
It
was
just
the
the
whole
the
whole
times.
I
mean
we
used
to
go
to
The State
in
Liverpool
would
go,
you
know,
well
before
Quadrant
Park
had
even
took
off
and
that
like
there
was
The
Underground
used to go
Charnock
Richard
on
a
on
a
Thursday
night
as
well
and
then
we’d
go
to
the
one
that
was
in
Chorley
and
that
The
Game
Bird
on
a
Sunday
night
we’d
go
Game
Bird
or
something
like
that.
Once
you
got
into
it
it
was
just
it
was
place
after
place,
but
nothing
even
after
obviously
Sett
End
and
that.
I
think
there
was
a
few
Yutick’s
Nest
and
we
had
Carlos
in
Colne
but
Monroe’s
was
obviously
still
the
main
one
for
me
after
that
felt
like
family.
I
ended
up
best
man
at
someone’s
wedding
who
I
still
keep
in
touch
with
I’m
here
today
which
is
30
years
later
nearly
and
well,
it is
30
years.
It
was
over
in
it
But
you
know
friends
i’ve
made
for
life
and
I count
more
of
these
people
as
friends…
than
friends
that
I
grew
up
with
you
know
that
I
knew…
but
every
single
one
of
us
that
went
to
these
parties
we
just…
it
was
just
like
probably
being
close
to
going
to
Woodstock
every
weekend
as
you
could
get
you
know
I
loved
it
and
I’ll
never
I’ll
never
regret
it.
Never
never
one
minute.
I’ve
lost
some
brain
cells
for
it,
but
still
the
best
time
of
me
life
and
then
that’s
it.
These
are
great.
The
darkest
of
dark
was
a
thing
called
Upfront
Promotions
in
1990
December
90
at
the
roller
rink
in
Wigan
and
someone
must
have
put
something
in
my
drink.
That’s
all
I
can
say,
but
basically
errr
6
doormen
took
me
outside
and
played
football
with
me’
head.
Gary
Hickson
on
Radio
Lancashire
put
a
request on
the
next
day and
said…
for
the
lad who
got
battered
by
the
doorman
last night.
Everyone
who’s
here
today
was
there
that
night
as
well.
And er
yeah,
that
was
a
strange
night
apart
from
that.
I
don’t
know.
I
think
sometimes…
some
of
the
parties
got
a
bit
scary
if
certain
people
came
from
certain
places,
but
to
be
fair,
I
think
it
was
just
because
there
was
a
mass
influx,
but
the
first
lot
of
parties
going…
going
forward
from
that
September
right
the
way
through
up
to
the
New
Year
January
February
just
now
just
pleasant
memories.
I
people
were
great.
Police
went
in
a
lot
harder
at
times
and
that…
like
it was
when
they
started
to
do
the
raids
and
that
like,
you
know
further
after
that I
remember
a
girl
in
a
wheelchair
getting
hit
and
she used
to
do…
she’d
had
a
horse
riding
accident.
She
was
lovely
but
they
did
lock
the
doors.
I
mean
i’ll
i’ll
never
forget
that
because
the
fact
is
they
used
to
say
that
you
know,
these
things
were…
were
and
people
shouldn’t
be
in
a
warehouse
in
case
of
an
accident
or
incase
there
was
a
fire
but
when
people
get
the
doors
barricaded
in
on
them
the
main
doors
and
they
couldn’t
all
trying…
to
get
10000
people
trying
to
get
out
of
a
little
bloody
door
on
the
side
of a
warehouse…
they
caused
the
accidents
and
that
was
a
shame
because
looking
back
apart
from
that
if
everything
had
just
been
left
to
go
ahead
that
would
have
been
it
but
the
funniest
one
looking
back
must
have
been
about
October
I
think
yeah,
October
89
maybe
November
and
we
all
ended
up
at
this
mill
somewhere
and
it
was
probably
only
used
for
about
10
men
who
probably
walked
around
there
all
day
working
on
machines
and
how
the
hell
the
ceiling didn’t
come
through.
Everyone
was
bouncing
up
and
down
and
when
we
seen
it
and
the
lights
come
on
and
in
the
morning
the
daylight
come in.
I
was
like,
oh
my
God
how
the
hell…
that
was
the
only
scary
one
I’ve
ever
been
in
and
that…
the
slaughterhouse
and that
your
feet
was
slipping
that
was
a
bit…
on
all
the
fat
on
the
floors.
One
was…
I
was at
the
one
where
the
guy danced
down the
steps
backwards
down
the
hole
and
then
stood
up
and
he
broken
both
his
legs
that
wasn’t
too
clever.
It
was
like
a
bus
depot
or
something.
Yeah
there
was…
and
then
the
funniest
of
all
and
that
like,
was
the
police
going
down
the
street
going…
You’re
not
getting
in
there
tonight…
and
then
a
load
of
people
behind
it
pushed
a
fence
right
over
on
top
of
them.
They
were
trapped
underneath
that.
Yeah,
that
that
was
quite
funny
because
we
did
get
in
and
we
partied
till
the
next
day.
But
yeah,
we
used
to
come
all
the
way
up
specially
from
Ormskirk
on
a
Monday
morning
to
buy
the
Blackburn
Telegraph
just
to
cut
out…
and
that
like…
where
we’ve
been
and
what
we’ve
done
that
weekend
and….
Best
times
of
my
life.
What
did
you
do
after
the
parties?
What
happened
to you
afterwards?
I
went
living
in
Berlin
in 93
and
that
for
a
while
but
apart
from
that.
I
think
we
all
just
went
clubbing
it.
And
got
into
the
scooter
scene
again
and
got
me
Vespa
and
did
that
for
a
while.
How
many
people
of
err
92
93
moved
abroad?
That’s
it
myself.
Yeah…
Over
half
the
people
we
knew
who
have
come
in
today
have done the same.
Yeah,
I
can’t
find
anything
here
i’ll go
somewhere
else.
I
think
that
the
parties
in
Berlin
were
fresh
again,
you
know,
they
called
it
Techno
and
that…
like
well,
sorry
no
they
called
it
Hardcore
but
I
found
it
a
bit
more
like
Techno
but
it
was
a
lot
more
beats
per
minute
was
very
duh, duh,
duh, duh
but
it
was
so
good
because
you
get
in
a
do
on
a
Friday
night
and
that
would
go
straight
the
way
through
from
one
to
the
other
to
the
other
right
through
till
Monday
morning
and
that
with
a
bottle
of
Apfelkorn
in
your
pocket
was
just
yeah
winner…
winner.
They
had
beds
in
the
beds
in
the
clubs
people
used
to
fall
asleep
and
just
wake
up
but
no
one
would go
in
anyone’s
pockets.
It
was
really
good.
I
seen
Sven
Vath
and
that
I
saw
him live
first
before
he
even
got
famous…
Tanith
we
became
friends.
I’m
still
friends
with
2 of
the
DJ’s
out
there
that
that
I
was
with
you
know,
when
I
was
23
and
I
still
speak
to
them
on
Facebook
I think
Facebook’s
done
quite
well,
bringing
a
lot
of
people
together
for
things
like
this.
I
wouldn’t
be
here
today.
I
wouldn’t
know
about
it.
So,
you
know,
I
just
hope
in
years
to
come
that
people
appreciate
that.
This
was
not
just
some
fly
by
scene.
It
was
something
that
we
thought
would
probably
be
over
to
be
fair
in
a
years
time.
We
never
seen
Acid
House
lasting
this
long.
And
you
know,
I’ve
got
a
daughter
who’s
like
18
nearly
19
and
she
listens
to
the
stuff
I was
listening
to
when
I
was
18
19
There’s
been
no
generation
gap
with
music.
I
don’t
think
I
think
it’s
not
like
Mods
and
Rockers
and
then
this
or
Punk
or
Ska
or
New
Wave
or
Modern
Romantic
sorry
New
Romantic
whatever
but
it’s
just
been
the
same
and
it
goes
to
show
that
it
wasn’t
a
phase.
It
was
it
was
you
know,
bloody
great.
Some
kids
going
to
be
listening
to
this
in
100
years,
and
they won’t
be hearing it
from
someone
else
they’ll
be
hearing
directly
from
you
lot.
What
do
you
say
to
a
kid
in
100
years
about
that
time?
I’m
going
to
say
I
just
hope
you’ve
got
the
same
freedom
in
a
100
years
that
sadly
you
wouldn’t
have
if
you
were
living
in
the
year
2019
or
2020
because
we
could
all
hang
around
in
cars
together
we
could
do
what
we
wanted
where
we
wanted.
We
didn’t
have
CCTV
wherever
we
went,
you
know,
we
could
go
and
get
into
a
factory
or
a
warehouse
and
have
a
party
and
no
one
could
stop
us
with
criminal
justice
bill
and
all
the
rest
of
it.
So,
I
hope
your
generations,
you
know,
better
than
what
it
is
at
the
minute
for
my
daughter’s
generation.
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How
did
you
get
involved?
Basically,
the
maddest
story
of
all
aload
of
us
had
gone
in
a
couple
of
cars
up
to
Rivington
Pike
and
you
know,
it
was
the
Summer
of
89
So
we were
all
enjoying
ourselves
up
there and
the next
thing
about
6 or
7
in
the
morning
we
ended
up
at
Charnock
Richard
services
and
we
bumped
into
these
4
people
2
lads
2
girls
and
they
were
like
the
strangest
dressed
people
we’d
seen
we
were
like,
woah!
We
were
used
to
wearing
like
suede
boots
trainers
or
whatever
and
and
like,
you
know
desert
boots
jeans
denim
shirt,
we were
all
into
Pink
Floyd
or
Hawkwind
all
that
kinda
stuff
and
we
said
we
said
where
have you
lot been
dressed
like
that?
Fancy
dress?
And
they
said
no
no
we’ve
been
playing
at the
Red Parrot.
And we
were
like
what?
Red
Parrot?
We were
like what?
Red Parrot.
They
said
Sett
End.
And
we
were
like
you’ve
lost
us.
They
said
we’re
from
Blackburn.
And
we
went…
right.
okay..
and
and
what
was
it?
And
they
said
no,
it’s
a
club
and
we
were
like
okay…
So
what
do
you
do
at
the
club?
They
said
oh
it’s
Acid
House.
And
we
said
right…
okay…
and
they
seemed
really
nice
people.
They
said
you
want
to
come
along
sometime?
So
we
said
yeah,
we
will
do.
Next
thing
about
a few
weeks
later
there
was
flyers
going
out
for
Live
The Dream
So
we
all
thought
right
we’re
going
to
go
to
this.
So a
couple
of
carloads
went
up
to
Live
The
Dream.
Never
really
looked
back
after
that.
But
but
the
thing
was
the
week
later
we
ended
up
going
to
this
Sett
End
Red
Parrot
just
couldn’t
believe
the
queue
outside.
I
mean,
you
know,
there
was
there
was
a
lot
of
people
even
September
89
it
was
busy.
Queued
up
obviously
certain
people
were on
the
door
that
were only
letting
certain
people
in…
say
no
names
and
we
just
didn’t
fit
the
bill
because
obviously
we
weren’t
good
looking
girls
and
It
was
like
sorry
we’re
full..
Said
right
no
worries.
So
we
ended
up
just
thought
right
soddit.
Let’s
go
and
have
a
beer.
So
we
went
around
the
back
of
the
place
goes
into
this
back
door
just
like
a
normal
working
man
style
club
next
thing…
and
that
night
we were
having
a
beer
and
this
bloody
lunatic
bounces
out
from
behind
the
counter
in
a
leather
flying
jacket
and
a
beret
and
he
said
where
are you
lot
from?
And
we
said
from
Ormskirk
And
he
went
err
near
Southport?
We
said
yeah,
he
said,
all
right
sound.
And
his
name
was?
Scotty.
Which
we
found
out
later
that
night
and err
what
a
guy
but
he
actually
moved
to
Southport
very
good
guy
you
know
miss him
lovely
bloke
but err
a
long
story
short
it
was
just
the
most
surreal…
you’ve
got
a
queue
outside
you
got
cars
outside
you’ve
got
people
that
can’t
get
in
you’ve
got
people
like
us
come
down
from
Ormskirk
and
that
like
thinking
bloody
hell this
is
mad.
We’re
in
this
little
working man’s
bar
and
it
was
just
dismal
the
next
thing
we’re
walked
around
the
back
of
the
bar
he
said
come
through here
and oh
my
God.
There
was
just
strobes
and
lights
and
everything
else
and
everyone
was
dancing
on
chairs
and
this
and
that
it was
just
like,
oh
my
God.
We’re
like this
is
it,
you
know,
we
had
probably
the next
best
night
to
Live
The
Dream
we’d
ever had
we’re
all
getting
in
the
car
to
go
home
next
thing
and
that
this
couple
come
up
to
and
say…
You
going
the
party?
We were
like
what
party?
They
said
the
party
We
were
like
what
party?
A
party
at someone’s
house?
You
know,
we were
oblivious
to
this.
We were
like
19
and
when
they
said
no…
no
parrrrty
and
we
said, no…
And
they said
just
follow
cars
just
follow
cars
and
we were like
right!
Okay!
So
we
ended
up
following
all
the
cars
and
then
just
in
this
disused
god
knows
what
it
was
with
the
toilet
that was
smashed
to
bits
and
probably
about
500
people
600
in
there
and
it
was
just
amazing.
I
mean
that…
that…
that
to
me
I
can
still
remember
every
bit
of
that
bit,
but
I
don’t
remember
the
party…
don’t
remember
getting
back.
And
then
every
week
we
went
Sett
End
there
was
there
was
I
mean
if
you
want
me
to
talk
about
Sett
End
a
bit
more
the
stories
of
that
I
could
tell
but
there
was
one
night
one
lad
and
he
been
trying
to
get
in
for
ages
and a
certain
person
on
the
door
again,
and
that
night he
was
like
you
piss
off
you’re
drug
squad.
And he went…
I’m
not
he
said
you
are
and
this
lad
went
and
picked
a
brick
up
went
around
the
side
put
the
toilet
window
through
and
he
ran
round
with
the doorman
and
we
thought…
oh
my
God
he’s
gonna
get
filled
in.
He
said
eh…
was
that
you?
And
he
went…
Yeah.
And
he
said,
well
you’re
definitely
not
drug
squad…
come
on
you
can
come
in
He’s
free in
and that
was
it.
So
we just
thought
this
is
crazy!
We’ve
come
to
a
place
people
are
smashing
windows
and
getting
in
for
free
because
they’re
not
drug
squad!
It
was
just
it
was
surreal
and
every
week
there
was
surreal
and
if
you
got
in
ye were
lucky
if
you
didn’t
you
knew
there was
going
to
be
a
party
afterwards
and
right
the
way
through
until
New
Years
Eve
going
in
from
89
to
90
that
was
amazing.
It
was
just
the
the
whole
the
whole
times.
I
mean
we
used
to
go
to
The State
in
Liverpool
would
go,
you
know,
well
before
Quadrant
Park
had
even
took
off
and
that
like
there
was
The
Underground
used to go
Charnock
Richard
on
a
on
a
Thursday
night
as
well
and
then
we’d
go
to
the
one
that
was
in
Chorley
and
that
The
Game
Bird
on
a
Sunday
night
we’d
go
Game
Bird
or
something
like
that.
Once
you
got
into
it
it
was
just
it
was
place
after
place,
but
nothing
even
after
obviously
Sett
End
and
that.
I
think
there
was
a
few
Yutick’s
Nest
and
we
had
Carlos
in
Colne
but
Monroe’s
was
obviously
still
the
main
one
for
me
after
that
felt
like
family.
I
ended
up
best
man
at
someone’s
wedding
who
I
still
keep
in
touch
with
I’m
here
today
which
is
30
years
later
nearly
and
well,
it is
30
years.
It
was
over
in
it
But
you
know
friends
i’ve
made
for
life
and
I count
more
of
these
people
as
friends…
than
friends
that
I
grew
up
with
you
know
that
I
knew…
but
every
single
one
of
us
that
went
to
these
parties
we
just…
it
was
just
like
probably
being
close
to
going
to
Woodstock
every
weekend
as
you
could
get
you
know
I
loved
it
and
I’ll
never
I’ll
never
regret
it.
Never
never
one
minute.
I’ve
lost
some
brain
cells
for
it,
but
still
the
best
time
of
me
life
and
then
that’s
it.
These
are
great.
The
darkest
of
dark
was
a
thing
called
Upfront
Promotions
in
1990
December
90
at
the
roller
rink
in
Wigan
and
someone
must
have
put
something
in
my
drink.
That’s
all
I
can
say,
but
basically
errr
6
doormen
took
me
outside
and
played
football
with
me’
head.
Gary
Hickson
on
Radio
Lancashire
put
a
request on
the
next
day and
said…
for
the
lad who
got
battered
by
the
doorman
last night.
Everyone
who’s
here
today
was
there
that
night
as
well.
And er
yeah,
that
was
a
strange
night
apart
from
that.
I
don’t
know.
I
think
sometimes…
some
of
the
parties
got
a
bit
scary
if
certain
people
came
from
certain
places,
but
to
be
fair,
I
think
it
was
just
because
there
was
a
mass
influx,
but
the
first
lot
of
parties
going…
going
forward
from
that
September
right
the
way
through
up
to
the
New
Year
January
February
just
now
just
pleasant
memories.
I
people
were
great.
Police
went
in
a
lot
harder
at
times
and
that…
like
it was
when
they
started
to
do
the
raids
and
that
like,
you
know
further
after
that I
remember
a
girl
in
a
wheelchair
getting
hit
and
she used
to
do…
she’d
had
a
horse
riding
accident.
She
was
lovely
but
they
did
lock
the
doors.
I
mean
i’ll
i’ll
never
forget
that
because
the
fact
is
they
used
to
say
that
you
know,
these
things
were…
were
and
people
shouldn’t
be
in
a
warehouse
in
case
of
an
accident
or
incase
there
was
a
fire
but
when
people
get
the
doors
barricaded
in
on
them
the
main
doors
and
they
couldn’t
all
trying…
to
get
10000
people
trying
to
get
out
of
a
little
bloody
door
on
the
side
of a
warehouse…
they
caused
the
accidents
and
that
was
a
shame
because
looking
back
apart
from
that
if
everything
had
just
been
left
to
go
ahead
that
would
have
been
it
but
the
funniest
one
looking
back
must
have
been
about
October
I
think
yeah,
October
89
maybe
November
and
we
all
ended
up
at
this
mill
somewhere
and
it
was
probably
only
used
for
about
10
men
who
probably
walked
around
there
all
day
working
on
machines
and
how
the
hell
the
ceiling didn’t
come
through.
Everyone
was
bouncing
up
and
down
and
when
we
seen
it
and
the
lights
come
on
and
in
the
morning
the
daylight
come in.
I
was
like,
oh
my
God
how
the
hell…
that
was
the
only
scary
one
I’ve
ever
been
in
and
that…
the
slaughterhouse
and that
your
feet
was
slipping
that
was
a
bit…
on
all
the
fat
on
the
floors.
One
was…
I
was at
the
one
where
the
guy danced
down the
steps
backwards
down
the
hole
and
then
stood
up
and
he
broken
both
his
legs
that
wasn’t
too
clever.
It
was
like
a
bus
depot
or
something.
Yeah
there
was…
and
then
the
funniest
of
all
and
that
like,
was
the
police
going
down
the
street
going…
You’re
not
getting
in
there
tonight…
and
then
a
load
of
people
behind
it
pushed
a
fence
right
over
on
top
of
them.
They
were
trapped
underneath
that.
Yeah,
that
that
was
quite
funny
because
we
did
get
in
and
we
partied
till
the
next
day.
But
yeah,
we
used
to
come
all
the
way
up
specially
from
Ormskirk
on
a
Monday
morning
to
buy
the
Blackburn
Telegraph
just
to
cut
out…
and
that
like…
where
we’ve
been
and
what
we’ve
done
that
weekend
and….
Best
times
of
my
life.
What
did
you
do
after
the
parties?
What
happened
to you
afterwards?
I
went
living
in
Berlin
in 93
and
that
for
a
while
but
apart
from
that.
I
think
we
all
just
went
clubbing
it.
And
got
into
the
scooter
scene
again
and
got
me
Vespa
and
did
that
for
a
while.
How
many
people
of
err
92
93
moved
abroad?
That’s
it
myself.
Yeah…
Over
half
the
people
we
knew
who
have
come
in
today
have done the same.
Yeah,
I
can’t
find
anything
here
i’ll go
somewhere
else.
I
think
that
the
parties
in
Berlin
were
fresh
again,
you
know,
they
called
it
Techno
and
that…
like
well,
sorry
no
they
called
it
Hardcore
but
I
found
it
a
bit
more
like
Techno
but
it
was
a
lot
more
beats
per
minute
was
very
duh, duh,
duh, duh
but
it
was
so
good
because
you
get
in
a
do
on
a
Friday
night
and
that
would
go
straight
the
way
through
from
one
to
the
other
to
the
other
right
through
till
Monday
morning
and
that
with
a
bottle
of
Apfelkorn
in
your
pocket
was
just
yeah
winner…
winner.
They
had
beds
in
the
beds
in
the
clubs
people
used
to
fall
asleep
and
just
wake
up
but
no
one
would go
in
anyone’s
pockets.
It
was
really
good.
I
seen
Sven
Vath
and
that
I
saw
him live
first
before
he
even
got
famous…
Tanith
we
became
friends.
I’m
still
friends
with
2 of
the
DJ’s
out
there
that
that
I
was
with
you
know,
when
I
was
23
and
I
still
speak
to
them
on
Facebook
I think
Facebook’s
done
quite
well,
bringing
a
lot
of
people
together
for
things
like
this.
I
wouldn’t
be
here
today.
I
wouldn’t
know
about
it.
So,
you
know,
I
just
hope
in
years
to
come
that
people
appreciate
that.
This
was
not
just
some
fly
by
scene.
It
was
something
that
we
thought
would
probably
be
over
to
be
fair
in
a
years
time.
We
never
seen
Acid
House
lasting
this
long.
And
you
know,
I’ve
got
a
daughter
who’s
like
18
nearly
19
and
she
listens
to
the
stuff
I was
listening
to
when
I
was
18
19
There’s
been
no
generation
gap
with
music.
I
don’t
think
I
think
it’s
not
like
Mods
and
Rockers
and
then
this
or
Punk
or
Ska
or
New
Wave
or
Modern
Romantic
sorry
New
Romantic
whatever
but
it’s
just
been
the
same
and
it
goes
to
show
that
it
wasn’t
a
phase.
It
was
it
was
you
know,
bloody
great.
Some
kids
going
to
be
listening
to
this
in
100
years,
and
they won’t
be hearing it
from
someone
else
they’ll
be
hearing
directly
from
you
lot.
What
do
you
say
to
a
kid
in
100
years
about
that
time?
I’m
going
to
say
I
just
hope
you’ve
got
the
same
freedom
in
a
100
years
that
sadly
you
wouldn’t
have
if
you
were
living
in
the
year
2019
or
2020
because
we
could
all
hang
around
in
cars
together
we
could
do
what
we
wanted
where
we
wanted.
We
didn’t
have
CCTV
wherever
we
went,
you
know,
we
could
go
and
get
into
a
factory
or
a
warehouse
and
have
a
party
and
no
one
could
stop
us
with
criminal
justice
bill
and
all
the
rest
of
it.
So,
I
hope
your
generations,
you
know,
better
than
what
it
is
at
the
minute
for
my
daughter’s
generation.

Cono Bad Memories

Click to play

These
these
are
great
memories,
but
is there
any
dark
memories
from
that
time.
The
darkest
of
dark
was
a
thing
called
Upfront
Promotions
in
1990
December
90
at
the
roller
rink
in
Wigan
and
someone
must
have
put
something
in
my
drink.
That’s
all
I
can
say,
but
basically
err
6
doormen
took
me
outside
and
played
football
with
me
head
Gary
Hickson
on
Radio
Lancashire
put
a
request
in
the
next
day
said
for
the
lad
who
got battered
by
the
doorman
last
night.
Everyone
who’s
here
today
was
there
that
night
as
well
and er
yeah,
that
was
a
strange
night
apart
from
that.
I
don’t
know.
I
think
sometimes
some
of
the
parties
got
a
bit
scary
if
certain
people
come
from
certain
places,
but
to
be
fair,
I
think
it
was
just
because
there
was
a
mass
influx,
but
the
first
lot
of
parties
going
going
forward
from
that
September
right
the
way
through
up
to
the
New
Year
January
February
just
now
just
pleasant
memories.
I…
people
were
great.
police
went
in
a
bit
hard
at
times
and
that
like
when
they
started
to
do
the
raids
and
that
like,
you
know
further
after
that
I remember
a
girl
in
a
wheelchair
getting
hit
and
she
used
to
do
she
had
a
horse
riding
accident.
She
was
lovely
but
they
did
lock
the
doors.
I
mean,
I’ll
never
forget
that
because
the
fact
is
they
used
to
say
that
you
know,
these
things
were
dangerous
and
people
shouldn’t
be
in
a
warehouse
in
case
of
an
accident
or
case
there
was
a
fire
but
when
people
get
the
doors
barricaded
in
on
them
the
main
doors
and
they
couldn’t
all
trying
to
get
10000
people
trying to
get
out
of
a
little
bloody
door
on
the
side
a
warehouse
they
caused
the
accidents
and
that
was
a
shame
because
looking
back,
apart
from
that
if
everything
had
just
been
left
to
go
ahead
that
would
have
been
it
but
the
funniest
one
looking
back
must
have
been
about
October
I
think
yeah,
October
89
maybe
November
and
we
all
ended
up
at
this
mill
somewhere
and
it
was
probably
only
used
for
about
10
men
in
probably
walked
around
there
all
day
working
on
machines
and
how
the
hell
the
ceiling never
came
through.
Everyone
was
bouncing
up
and
down
and
when
we
seen
it
n
the
lights
come
on
and
in
the
morning
the
day
light
come
that
was
like,
oh
my
God
how
the
hell.
That
was
the
only
scary
one
I’ve
ever
been
in
and
that.
The
slaughterhouse
and that
your
feet
was
slipping
that
was
a
bit…
on
all
the
fat
on
the
floors
one
was
I was
at
the
one
where
the
guy
danced
danced
backwards
down
the
hole
and
then
stood
up
and
he’s
broken
both
his
legs
that
wasn’t
too
clever.
I think
it was
like
a
bus
depot
or
something.
Yeah
then
there was
and
then
the
funniest
of
all
and
that
like
was
the
police
going
down
the
street
going
you’re
not
getting
in
there
tonight
and
then
a
load
of
people
behind
it
pushed
a fence
right
over
on
top
of
them.
They
were
trapped
underneath
that.
Yeah,
that
that
was
quite
funny
because
we
did
get
in
and
we
partied
till
the
next
day.
But
yeah,
we
used
to
come
all
the
way
up
specially
from
Ormskirk
on
a
Monday
morning
to
buy
the
Blackburn
Telegraph
just
to
cut
out
and
that
like
where
we’ve
been
and
what
we’ve
done
that
weekend.
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Cono
Bad memories. (3:01 mins)
Cono
Life afterwards. (2:05 mins)

Full Transcript:

These
these
are
great
memories,
but
is there
any
dark
memories
from
that
time.
The
darkest
of
dark
was
a
thing
called
Upfront
Promotions
in
1990
December
90
at
the
roller
rink
in
Wigan
and
someone
must
have
put
something
in
my
drink.
That’s
all
I
can
say,
but
basically
err
6
doormen
took
me
outside
and
played
football
with
me
head
Gary
Hickson
on
Radio
Lancashire
put
a
request
in
the
next
day
said
for
the
lad
who
got battered
by
the
doorman
last
night.
Everyone
who’s
here
today
was
there
that
night
as
well
and er
yeah,
that
was
a
strange
night
apart
from
that.
I
don’t
know.
I
think
sometimes
some
of
the
parties
got
a
bit
scary
if
certain
people
come
from
certain
places,
but
to
be
fair,
I
think
it
was
just
because
there
was
a
mass
influx,
but
the
first
lot
of
parties
going
going
forward
from
that
September
right
the
way
through
up
to
the
New
Year
January
February
just
now
just
pleasant
memories.
I…
people
were
great.
police
went
in
a
bit
hard
at
times
and
that
like
when
they
started
to
do
the
raids
and
that
like,
you
know
further
after
that
I remember
a
girl
in
a
wheelchair
getting
hit
and
she
used
to
do
she
had
a
horse
riding
accident.
She
was
lovely
but
they
did
lock
the
doors.
I
mean,
I’ll
never
forget
that
because
the
fact
is
they
used
to
say
that
you
know,
these
things
were
dangerous
and
people
shouldn’t
be
in
a
warehouse
in
case
of
an
accident
or
case
there
was
a
fire
but
when
people
get
the
doors
barricaded
in
on
them
the
main
doors
and
they
couldn’t
all
trying
to
get
10000
people
trying to
get
out
of
a
little
bloody
door
on
the
side
a
warehouse
they
caused
the
accidents
and
that
was
a
shame
because
looking
back,
apart
from
that
if
everything
had
just
been
left
to
go
ahead
that
would
have
been
it
but
the
funniest
one
looking
back
must
have
been
about
October
I
think
yeah,
October
89
maybe
November
and
we
all
ended
up
at
this
mill
somewhere
and
it
was
probably
only
used
for
about
10
men
in
probably
walked
around
there
all
day
working
on
machines
and
how
the
hell
the
ceiling never
came
through.
Everyone
was
bouncing
up
and
down
and
when
we
seen
it
n
the
lights
come
on
and
in
the
morning
the
day
light
come
that
was
like,
oh
my
God
how
the
hell.
That
was
the
only
scary
one
I’ve
ever
been
in
and
that.
The
slaughterhouse
and that
your
feet
was
slipping
that
was
a
bit…
on
all
the
fat
on
the
floors
one
was
I was
at
the
one
where
the
guy
danced
danced
backwards
down
the
hole
and
then
stood
up
and
he’s
broken
both
his
legs
that
wasn’t
too
clever.
I think
it was
like
a
bus
depot
or
something.
Yeah
then
there was
and
then
the
funniest
of
all
and
that
like
was
the
police
going
down
the
street
going
you’re
not
getting
in
there
tonight
and
then
a
load
of
people
behind
it
pushed
a fence
right
over
on
top
of
them.
They
were
trapped
underneath
that.
Yeah,
that
that
was
quite
funny
because
we
did
get
in
and
we
partied
till
the
next
day.
But
yeah,
we
used
to
come
all
the
way
up
specially
from
Ormskirk
on
a
Monday
morning
to
buy
the
Blackburn
Telegraph
just
to
cut
out
and
that
like
where
we’ve
been
and
what
we’ve
done
that
weekend.

Charno Getting Involved

Click to play

How
did
you
get
involved?
Ermm It’s
a funny
one
really.
I
was
at
a
football
match
with
some
pals
and
one
guy
from
Manchester
had
heard
just
as
it
was
kicking
off
and
I
just
got
back
from
Ibiza
with
him
and
then
we
were
getting
into
the
music
side
of
things
first
and
we
heard
about
the
Red
Parrot
we
came
up
from
there
from
a
football
pal
really
at
the
match.
What
happened
when
you got
there?
Blown
away
really.
It
was
good.
Welcomed
with
open arms
people
from
rival
football
teams
who
we were
previously
scrapping
with
were
all
mates.
I
can
now
call
them
me.
good
friends,
you
know,
it
got
rid
of
all
them
boundaries
music
was
fantastic
people
were
great.
It
was
just
full
on
party
of
course.
Describe
it
to
me.
Well
I’d
been
used
to
going
out
as
a Casual
like
you
know
in
smart
trousers
and
trainers
and
tracky
tops
and
you
know
shirt
and
pants
and
to
go
into
this
place
where
everything
was
relaxed
with
no
boundaries.
Everyone
was
having
a
really
good
time.
There was
no
hassle
was
no
really…
in
the
genders.
It
was
just
having
a
good
time.
Were
just
blown
away
by
it.
It’s
good.
You were
going
up
there
and going to
a party
after
that.
Yeah.
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Getting involved. (1:35 mins)
Charno
Bad memories. (1:12 mins)

Full Transcript:

How
did
you
get
involved?
Ermm It’s
a funny
one
really.
I
was
at
a
football
match
with
some
pals
and
one
guy
from
Manchester
had
heard
just
as
it
was
kicking
off
and
I
just
got
back
from
Ibiza
with
him
and
then
we
were
getting
into
the
music
side
of
things
first
and
we
heard
about
the
Red
Parrot
we
came
up
from
there
from
a
football
pal
really
at
the
match.
What
happened
when
you got
there?
Blown
away
really.
It
was
good.
Welcomed
with
open arms
people
from
rival
football
teams
who
we were
previously
scrapping
with
were
all
mates.
I
can
now
call
them
me.
good
friends,
you
know,
it
got
rid
of
all
them
boundaries
music
was
fantastic
people
were
great.
It
was
just
full
on
party
of
course.
Describe
it
to
me.
Well
I’d
been
used
to
going
out
as
a Casual
like
you
know
in
smart
trousers
and
trainers
and
tracky
tops
and
you
know
shirt
and
pants
and
to
go
into
this
place
where
everything
was
relaxed
with
no
boundaries.
Everyone
was
having
a
really
good
time.
There was
no
hassle
was
no
really…
in
the
genders.
It
was
just
having
a
good
time.
Were
just
blown
away
by
it.
It’s
good.
You were
going
up
there
and going to
a party
after
that.
Yeah.

Charno Bad Memories

Click to play

Any
dark
memories
of
the
time?
Looking
back,
at
the
time..
no.
But
looking
back
now,
I
suppose
the
health
and
safety
aspect
of
it
all
driving
around
in
some of
the
states
people
were
doing…
maybe
could
be
seen
as
dark.
And
then
towards
the
end
when
the
gangsters
kind
of
tried
to
take
over
and
you
know,
seeing
the
money
that
could
be
made
right
and
then it
went
from
them
having
a
good
time
to
making
money
which
ultimately
killed
it.
For
me
anyway,
you
know
if
that
was
a
dark
thing,
I
don’t
know.
I
mean
obviously
the
police
as
well
there
they
had
to
stop
it
somewhere.
It
was
too
big,
you
know,
so
I
don’t
even
call
that
dark
but
it
was
a
dark day
in the …
in
unit
7
was
it?
When
they
when
they
when
they
all
came
in
that
was
a
bad
day.
Was that Nelson?
Yeah,
Yeah,
that
was….
But
they
had
to
do
something,
you
know,
I
mean
they
had
to
do
something
it
was
getting
that
big.
I
didn’t
see
anything
that bad
really.
Nothing
that
worried
me at
the
time
anyway.
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Charno
Bad memories. (1:12 mins)
Charno
Good memories part 1. (2:27 mins)

Full Transcript:

Any
dark
memories
of
the
time?
Looking
back,
at
the
time..
no.
But
looking
back
now,
I
suppose
the
health
and
safety
aspect
of
it
all
driving
around
in
some of
the
states
people
were
doing…
maybe
could
be
seen
as
dark.
And
then
towards
the
end
when
the
gangsters
kind
of
tried
to
take
over
and
you
know,
seeing
the
money
that
could
be
made
right
and
then it
went
from
them
having
a
good
time
to
making
money
which
ultimately
killed
it.
For
me
anyway,
you
know
if
that
was
a
dark
thing,
I
don’t
know.
I
mean
obviously
the
police
as
well
there
they
had
to
stop
it
somewhere.
It
was
too
big,
you
know,
so
I
don’t
even
call
that
dark
but
it
was
a
dark day
in the …
in
unit
7
was
it?
When
they
when
they
when
they
all
came
in
that
was
a
bad
day.
Was that Nelson?
Yeah,
Yeah,
that
was….
But
they
had
to
do
something,
you
know,
I
mean
they
had
to
do
something
it
was
getting
that
big.
I
didn’t
see
anything
that bad
really.
Nothing
that
worried
me at
the
time
anyway.

Charno Good Memories Part 1

Click to play

What are
your
best
memories
of
these
times?
The
services.
I
probably
enjoyed
stopping
at
the
services
on
the
way
home..
Just tell
me about
the services…
Well
on
the
way
there
we
used
to
meet
after
clubs
to
decide
where
we’re
going
on
to
next
whether
it
be
a
party
or
someone’s
house
or
one
of
the
raves
and
it
came
quite
a
tradition
for
us.
What
we
started
doing
was
I
was
filling
up
the
car
boot
up
with
pop
water
beer
skins
and
selling
it
on
the
on
the
services
and
it
paid
for
the
weekend.
We
made
a
fortune,
you
know,
we
did
have
a
laugh
and
at
one
stage
I
was
reading
an
A – Z
and
a
guy
from
down
South
somewhere
said
can
I
buy
the
A-Z
off ya?
And I
sold
him
the
A-Z
I had
for
a
tenner
that’d
have
cost
me
a
quid
and
the
week
after
I
bought
40
and
put
a
rough
idea
where
the
party
was on
and
I
sold
40
A-Z’s
for a
tenner
each
And
that
that
I’d
tend
to
do
that
as
many
weeks
as
I
could
and
at
the
back
it
came
with
people
I
parked
in
the
same
spot
people
came
to
me
and
they
were
buying
A-Z’s
a couple
of
cans
and
you
know,
it
went
from
that
and
then
eventually
we
were even
selling
newspapers.
It
was
brilliant.
Was
that
because
people
wanted
newspapers
to
to
get
the
date?
To
remember
the
event?
that
as
well
that
as
well
and
the
sport
from
the
Saturday
alot
of
all the
footballers
on
Saturday
a
lot
of
my
friends
were
from
football
backgrounds.
And
they’ve
gone
from
being
football
hooligans
to
party
people
if
that
makes
any
sense,
so
they
were
looking
at
the
scores
because
a
lot
of
them
have
been
out
all
day.
You
know,
it’s
really
good.
It was
interesting.
That’s
incredible.
Yeah.
I’m
really
glad
I
asked
about
the
services.
So
the services
is
one
of
your
favorite
bits
and it
paid
for
your…
It
paid
for
the
weekend.
I
met
loads
of
interesting
people
new
people.
I
don’t
think
there’s
a
town
in
the
North
now
I
can’t
go
and
stay in
someone’s
house…
where
i’ve
made
the
best
of
friends
from
encounters
on
there
you
know
and they
used to
meet
me
every
week.
i’d say
see
you
next
week!
I’ll
be
there
4
cans
bottle
of
wine
newspaper
skins
and
an
A-Z
(Laughs)
head.
And this
is between
the club and the party?
Sometimes
after…
in
the
morning.
Unbelievable.
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Good memories part 1. (2:27 mins)
Charno
Good memories part 2. (39 secs)

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What are
your
best
memories
of
these
times?
The
services.
I
probably
enjoyed
stopping
at
the
services
on
the
way
home..
Just tell
me about
the services…
Well
on
the
way
there
we
used
to
meet
after
clubs
to
decide
where
we’re
going
on
to
next
whether
it
be
a
party
or
someone’s
house
or
one
of
the
raves
and
it
came
quite
a
tradition
for
us.
What
we
started
doing
was
I
was
filling
up
the
car
boot
up
with
pop
water
beer
skins
and
selling
it
on
the
on
the
services
and
it
paid
for
the
weekend.
We
made
a
fortune,
you
know,
we
did
have
a
laugh
and
at
one
stage
I
was
reading
an
A – Z
and
a
guy
from
down
South
somewhere
said
can
I
buy
the
A-Z
off ya?
And I
sold
him
the
A-Z
I had
for
a
tenner
that’d
have
cost
me
a
quid
and
the
week
after
I
bought
40
and
put
a
rough
idea
where
the
party
was on
and
I
sold
40
A-Z’s
for a
tenner
each
And
that
that
I’d
tend
to
do
that
as
many
weeks
as
I
could
and
at
the
back
it
came
with
people
I
parked
in
the
same
spot
people
came
to
me
and
they
were
buying
A-Z’s
a couple
of
cans
and
you
know,
it
went
from
that
and
then
eventually
we
were even
selling
newspapers.
It
was
brilliant.
Was
that
because
people
wanted
newspapers
to
to
get
the
date?
To
remember
the
event?
that
as
well
that
as
well
and
the
sport
from
the
Saturday
alot
of
all the
footballers
on
Saturday
a
lot
of
my
friends
were
from
football
backgrounds.
And
they’ve
gone
from
being
football
hooligans
to
party
people
if
that
makes
any
sense,
so
they
were
looking
at
the
scores
because
a
lot
of
them
have
been
out
all
day.
You
know,
it’s
really
good.
It was
interesting.
That’s
incredible.
Yeah.
I’m
really
glad
I
asked
about
the
services.
So
the services
is
one
of
your
favorite
bits
and it
paid
for
your…
It
paid
for
the
weekend.
I
met
loads
of
interesting
people
new
people.
I
don’t
think
there’s
a
town
in
the
North
now
I
can’t
go
and
stay in
someone’s
house…
where
i’ve
made
the
best
of
friends
from
encounters
on
there
you
know
and they
used to
meet
me
every
week.
i’d say
see
you
next
week!
I’ll
be
there
4
cans
bottle
of
wine
newspaper
skins
and
an
A-Z
(Laughs)
head.
And this
is between
the club and the party?
Sometimes
after…
in
the
morning.
Unbelievable.

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Any
more
memories…
good
memories
you
want
to
share
or
talk
about
before
we
move
on?
Just
meeting
a
lot
of
new
people.
Like
I
said,
I’ve
Got
friends
at
every
turn.
Other
countries
I
can
go
to
several
countries
where
people
who’ve
moved
away
and
moved
on.
I’m
friends
with
them
all
thanks
to
social
media
as
well.
There was
no
smartphones
everything
in
the
day
or anything
like
that
Back then
we just
kept
in
touch,
somewhere
along
the
lines
we
found
each
other
but
then
you
had
to
ring
somebody
up.
You
know what I
mean
it
was
actually
using
the
telephone
and
I
just
stayed
in
touch
with
at
least
400
people
who
I can
call
good
friends
from
that.
You
know,
it’s
amazing.
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Good memories part 2. (39 secs)
Charno
Life afterwards. (1:00 min)

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Any
more
memories…
good
memories
you
want
to
share
or
talk
about
before
we
move
on?
Just
meeting
a
lot
of
new
people.
Like
I
said,
I’ve
Got
friends
at
every
turn.
Other
countries
I
can
go
to
several
countries
where
people
who’ve
moved
away
and
moved
on.
I’m
friends
with
them
all
thanks
to
social
media
as
well.
There was
no
smartphones
everything
in
the
day
or anything
like
that
Back then
we just
kept
in
touch,
somewhere
along
the
lines
we
found
each
other
but
then
you
had
to
ring
somebody
up.
You
know what I
mean
it
was
actually
using
the
telephone
and
I
just
stayed
in
touch
with
at
least
400
people
who
I can
call
good
friends
from
that.
You
know,
it’s
amazing.

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When
it
finished
or
if
it
finished
for you…
Yeah?
What
did
it,
did
it have
an
impact
upon
you life ?
What
did you
do
afterwards?
Well
when
the
Blackburn
finished
because
I’m
from
Wigan
all my
pals
from
Wigan
we
set
off
the
Revenge
side
of
things.
So
we
moved
on
from
Blackburn
with
the
Revenge
tried
a
couple
of
legal
things.
We
did
a
few
illegal
ones.
I
did
a
couple
myself
in
Skelmersdale
And
from
that
with
me
interest in
music,
I
packed
my
job
in
I
opened
a
record
shop
and
I had a
record
shop
for
15
years
selling
dance
music
and
then
I
had
another
one
in
Southport
So I had
2
dance
music
shops
buying
and
selling
equipment
dance
and tunes.
I
still
sell
them
now
online.
I
still
do
that
as
well.
So
I
got
a
bit
of
a
career
out
of
it.
I
suppose
through
me
interest in
music.
And err
it was
good.
What were
your record
shops
called?
I had
one
in
Wigan
called
Flawless
Records.
And
one
in
Southport
called
Elite
Vinyl.
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Charno
Advice for future generations. (45 secs)

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When
it
finished
or
if
it
finished
for you…
Yeah?
What
did
it,
did
it have
an
impact
upon
you life ?
What
did you
do
afterwards?
Well
when
the
Blackburn
finished
because
I’m
from
Wigan
all my
pals
from
Wigan
we
set
off
the
Revenge
side
of
things.
So
we
moved
on
from
Blackburn
with
the
Revenge
tried
a
couple
of
legal
things.
We
did
a
few
illegal
ones.
I
did
a
couple
myself
in
Skelmersdale
And
from
that
with
me
interest in
music,
I
packed
my
job
in
I
opened
a
record
shop
and
I had a
record
shop
for
15
years
selling
dance
music
and
then
I
had
another
one
in
Southport
So I had
2
dance
music
shops
buying
and
selling
equipment
dance
and tunes.
I
still
sell
them
now
online.
I
still
do
that
as
well.
So
I
got
a
bit
of
a
career
out
of
it.
I
suppose
through
me
interest in
music.
And err
it was
good.
What were
your record
shops
called?
I had
one
in
Wigan
called
Flawless
Records.
And
one
in
Southport
called
Elite
Vinyl.

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What
I
really
like
the
idea
of
is
in
another
100
years
is
some
of
our
kids
some
of
our
people
are
going
to
be
listening
to
you
lot
talking
about
a
time
that
to them
will
be
you
know
way
back.
Yeah,
And
they’re
you
know,
they’re
listening
to
all
of
your
stories
not
reading
them in
someone
else’s
book
hearing
your
voices…
Yeah,
and
you’ve
got
the
opportunity
to
say
something
to
them.
What
would
you
say
to
them?
Anything’s
possible.
If
you
want
it
go
for
it.
I
never
thought
I’d
have
a
shop.
I
came
out
of
the
dance
scene
thinking
what
am I
going
to
do
now
I
was
stuck
in
a
dead-end
job.
I
thought
you
know
what
I
love
I
love
music.
I
went
and
got
a shop.
Just
go
for
it.
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Full interview. (8:17 mins)

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What
I
really
like
the
idea
of
is
in
another
100
years
is
some
of
our
kids
some
of
our
people
are
going
to
be
listening
to
you
lot
talking
about
a
time
that
to them
will
be
you
know
way
back.
Yeah,
And
they’re
you
know,
they’re
listening
to
all
of
your
stories
not
reading
them in
someone
else’s
book
hearing
your
voices…
Yeah,
and
you’ve
got
the
opportunity
to
say
something
to
them.
What
would
you
say
to
them?
Anything’s
possible.
If
you
want
it
go
for
it.
I
never
thought
I’d
have
a
shop.
I
came
out
of
the
dance
scene
thinking
what
am I
going
to
do
now
I
was
stuck
in
a
dead-end
job.
I
thought
you
know
what
I
love
I
love
music.
I
went
and
got
a shop.
Just
go
for
it.

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How
did
you
get
involved?
It’s a
funny
one
really.
I
was
at
a
football
match
with
some
pals
and
one
guy
from
Manchester
had
heard,
just
as
it
was
kicking
off.
And
I’d
just
got
back
from
Ibiza
with
him.
And
we
were
getting
into
the
music
side
of
things
first.
And
we
heard
about
the
Red
Parrot.
We
came
up
from
there
from
a
football
pall
really
at
the
match.
What
happened
when
you got
there?
Blown
away
really,
it
was
good.
Welcomed
in open
arms.
People
from
rival
football
teams
who
we were
previously
scrapping
with,
were
all
mates.
I
can
now
call
em
my
good
friends.
You
know,
it
got
rid
of
all
them
boundaries,
music
was
fantastic.
People
are
great.
And
it
was
just
full
on
party.
Was
good.
Describe
it
for
me.
Well
I
was
used
to
going
out
as
a
casual
guy,
you
know,
and
smart
trousers
and
trainers
and
trackie
tops
and
you
know,
shirt
and
pants
and
to
go
into
this
place
where
everything
was
relaxed
with
no
boundaries.
Everyone
was
having
a
really
good
time.
There’s
no
hassle.
There
was no,
really,
in
the
genders.
It
was
just
having
a
good
time.
We were
just
blown
away
by
it.
It’s
good.
You’re
going
up
there
and then
going to
the party after?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What
your
best
memories
of
these
times?
The
services.
I
probably
enjoyed
stopping
at
the
services
on
the
way
home.
On
the
way
there.
We
used
to
meet
after
clubs,
to
decide
where
we’re
going
on
to
next
whether
it
be
a
party
or
someone’s
house
or
one
of
the
raves
and
it
came
quite
of a
tradition
for
us.
What
we
started
doing
was
I
was
filling
the
car
boot
up
with
pop,
water,
beer,
skins,
and
selling
it
on
the,
on
the
services
and
it
paid
for
the
weekend.
We
made
a
fortune.
You
know,
we
did
a
laugh
and
at
one
stage,
I
was
reading
an
A
to
Z,
and
a
guy
from
down
South
somewhere
said…
Can
I
buy
the
A
to
Z,
off you?
So I sold
him the
A
to
Z,
for
a
tenner
that
cost
me
a
quid
and
the
week
after
I
bought
40
Put
a
rough
idea
where
the
party
was.
And
I
sold
40
A
to
Z’s
at a
tenner each.
And
that,
that
I tended
to
do
that
as
many
weeks
as
I
could,
and
at
the
back
it
came
with
people,
I
were
parked in
the
same
spot,
people
came
to
me
and
they
were
buying
A to Z’s,
couple
of
cans,
and
you
know,
it
went
from
that
and
then
eventually
we
even
selling
newspapers.
It
was
brilliant.
Was
that
because
people
wanted
newspapers
to
to
get
the
date
to
remember
the
event.
That
as
well,
that
as
well
and
the
sport
from
the
Saturday
all
the
footballs
on
Saturday.
A
lot
of
my
friends
were
from
football
backgrounds.
And
they
gone
from
being
football
hooligans
to
party
people
if
that
makes
any
sense,
so
they
were
looking
at
the
scores
because
a
lot
of
em had
been
out
all
day,
you
know,
it
was
really
good.
It
was
interesting.
That’s
incredible.
Yeah,
I’m
really
glad
I
asked
about
the
services.
So
the
services was
one
of
your
favourite
bits
and it
paid
for
your…
It
paid
for
the
weekend.
I
met
loads
of
interesting
people
new
people.
I
don’t
think
there’s
a
town
in
the
North
now where
I
can’t
go
and
stay in
someones
house,
I
made
the
best
of
friends
from
encounters
on
there.
You
know,
and
they used
to meet
me
every
week
and say
see
you
next
week.
I’d
be
there,
4
cans,
bottle
of
wine,
newspaper,
skins
and
an
A
to
Z.
This is
in between the
club
and
the
party?
Yeah,
or
sometimes
after
in
the
morning
Yeah
got
ya,
you
know
really
unbelievable.
That
is
one
of
the
best
things
I’ve
heard
today.
Anymore
good memories
you want
to
share
or
talk
about
before
we
move
on?
Just
meeting
a
lot
of
new
people.
Like
I
said,
I’ve
got
friends
now in
every
town.
Other
countries
I
can
go
to
several
countries
where
people
who’ve
moved
away
and
moved
on.
I’m
friends
with
them
all
thanks
to
social
media
as
well.
There was
no
smartphones
or anything
in
the
day
like
that
but,
we,
we
just
kept
in
touch
somewhere
along
the
lines
we
found
each
other.
Back
then
you used
to have
to
ring
somebody
up.
You
know,
I
mean,
it
was
actually
using
the
telephone.
And
we,
I
stayed
in
touch
with
at
least
400
people
who
I
can
still
call
good
friends
from
that.
You
know,
it’s
amazing.
Any
dark
memories
of
the
time?
Looking
back
at
the
time
no.
But
looking
back
now,
I
suppose
the
health
and
safety
aspect
of
it
all.
Driving
around
in some
of
the
states
people
were
doing
maybe
could
be
seen
as
dark.
And
then
towards
the
end
when
the
gangsters
kind
of
tried
to
take
over
and
you
know,
seeing
the
money
that
could
be
made
right
and
then it
went
from
then
having
a
good
time
to
making
money.
Which
ultimately
killed
it,
for
me
anyway,
you
know
if
that
was
a
dark
thing,
I
don’t
know.
I
mean
obviously
the
police
as
well
there.
They
had
to
stop
it
somewhere.
It
was
too
big,
you
know,
so
I don’t
even know
if you can
call
that
dark,
but,
it
was
a
dark
day
on
the,
in
unit
7
was
it?
When
they,
when
they,
when
they
all
came
in.
That
was
a
bad
day.
Was
that
Nelson?
Yeah,
it
was…
but
they
had
to
do
something.
You
know,
I
mean
they
had
to
do
something
it
getting
that
big.
But
dark,
I
didn’t
see
anything
bad
really
nothing
that
worried
me at
the
time
anyway.
When
it
finished
or
if
it
finished,
what
did
you
do
afterwards?
Well,
when
the
Blackburn
finished
because
I’m
from
Wigan
Army
Pals
from
Wigan.
We
set
off
the
Revenge
side
of
things.
So
we
moved
on
from
Blackburn
with
the
Revenge,
tried
a
couple
of
legal
things.
We
did
a
few
illegal
ones.
I
did
a
couple
myself
in
Skelmersdale.
And
from
that
with
me
interest in
music,
I
packed
my
job
in
and
I
opened
a
record shop.
And I had
a record
shop
for
15
years.
Selling
dance
music.
And
then
I
had
another
one in
Southport.
So
I
had
two
dance
music
shops.
Buying
and
Selling
equipment.
Dance
tunes
I
still
sell em
now
online.
I
still
do
that
as
well.
So
I
got
a
bit
of
a
career
out
of
it.
I
suppose
through
me
interest in
music.
It
was
good.
Had
one
in
Wigan
called
Flawless
Records.
And
one
in
Southport
called
Elite
Vinyl.
What
I
like
about
what
we’re
doing
today
is
that
I’m
interested
in
the
working-class
history
of
these
areas
of
Northern
towns
particularly.
Okay,
Like
a
post-industrial,
what’s
been
happening
in
the
mills
and
warehouses
working-class
kid.
Yeah.
All
the
stuff you’ve
talked
about,
football,
casuals,
but
I
go
right
back
to,
there
were
people
working
in these
mills
that
were
poets.
Yeah.
150
years
ago.
What
I
really
like
the
idea
of
Andy
is in
another
100
years,
some
of
our
kids,
some
of our
people
are
going
to
be
listening
to
you
lot
talking
about
a
time
that
will
be
you
know,
to
them,
way
back.
Yeah.
Are
you,
that,
you
know,
they’re
listening
to
all
of
your
stories
not
reading
em in
someone
else’s
book,
hearing
your
voices.
Yeah.
And
you’ve
got
an
opportunity
to
say
something
to
them.
What
would
you
say
to
em?
Anything’s
possible.
If
you
want
it
go
for
it.
I
never
thought
I’d
have
a
shop.
I
came
out
of
the
dance
scene
thinking
what
am I
going
to
do
now
cos
I was
stuck
in
a
dead-end
job.
I
thought
you
know
what,
what do
I love?
I
love
music.
I
went
and
got
a shop.
Just
go
for
it.
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How
did
you
get
involved?
It’s a
funny
one
really.
I
was
at
a
football
match
with
some
pals
and
one
guy
from
Manchester
had
heard,
just
as
it
was
kicking
off.
And
I’d
just
got
back
from
Ibiza
with
him.
And
we
were
getting
into
the
music
side
of
things
first.
And
we
heard
about
the
Red
Parrot.
We
came
up
from
there
from
a
football
pall
really
at
the
match.
What
happened
when
you got
there?
Blown
away
really,
it
was
good.
Welcomed
in open
arms.
People
from
rival
football
teams
who
we were
previously
scrapping
with,
were
all
mates.
I
can
now
call
em
my
good
friends.
You
know,
it
got
rid
of
all
them
boundaries,
music
was
fantastic.
People
are
great.
And
it
was
just
full
on
party.
Was
good.
Describe
it
for
me.
Well
I
was
used
to
going
out
as
a
casual
guy,
you
know,
and
smart
trousers
and
trainers
and
trackie
tops
and
you
know,
shirt
and
pants
and
to
go
into
this
place
where
everything
was
relaxed
with
no
boundaries.
Everyone
was
having
a
really
good
time.
There’s
no
hassle.
There
was no,
really,
in
the
genders.
It
was
just
having
a
good
time.
We were
just
blown
away
by
it.
It’s
good.
You’re
going
up
there
and then
going to
the party after?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What
your
best
memories
of
these
times?
The
services.
I
probably
enjoyed
stopping
at
the
services
on
the
way
home.
On
the
way
there.
We
used
to
meet
after
clubs,
to
decide
where
we’re
going
on
to
next
whether
it
be
a
party
or
someone’s
house
or
one
of
the
raves
and
it
came
quite
of a
tradition
for
us.
What
we
started
doing
was
I
was
filling
the
car
boot
up
with
pop,
water,
beer,
skins,
and
selling
it
on
the,
on
the
services
and
it
paid
for
the
weekend.
We
made
a
fortune.
You
know,
we
did
a
laugh
and
at
one
stage,
I
was
reading
an
A
to
Z,
and
a
guy
from
down
South
somewhere
said…
Can
I
buy
the
A
to
Z,
off you?
So I sold
him the
A
to
Z,
for
a
tenner
that
cost
me
a
quid
and
the
week
after
I
bought
40
Put
a
rough
idea
where
the
party
was.
And
I
sold
40
A
to
Z’s
at a
tenner each.
And
that,
that
I tended
to
do
that
as
many
weeks
as
I
could,
and
at
the
back
it
came
with
people,
I
were
parked in
the
same
spot,
people
came
to
me
and
they
were
buying
A to Z’s,
couple
of
cans,
and
you
know,
it
went
from
that
and
then
eventually
we
even
selling
newspapers.
It
was
brilliant.
Was
that
because
people
wanted
newspapers
to
to
get
the
date
to
remember
the
event.
That
as
well,
that
as
well
and
the
sport
from
the
Saturday
all
the
footballs
on
Saturday.
A
lot
of
my
friends
were
from
football
backgrounds.
And
they
gone
from
being
football
hooligans
to
party
people
if
that
makes
any
sense,
so
they
were
looking
at
the
scores
because
a
lot
of
em had
been
out
all
day,
you
know,
it
was
really
good.
It
was
interesting.
That’s
incredible.
Yeah,
I’m
really
glad
I
asked
about
the
services.
So
the
services was
one
of
your
favourite
bits
and it
paid
for
your…
It
paid
for
the
weekend.
I
met
loads
of
interesting
people
new
people.
I
don’t
think
there’s
a
town
in
the
North
now where
I
can’t
go
and
stay in
someones
house,
I
made
the
best
of
friends
from
encounters
on
there.
You
know,
and
they used
to meet
me
every
week
and say
see
you
next
week.
I’d
be
there,
4
cans,
bottle
of
wine,
newspaper,
skins
and
an
A
to
Z.
This is
in between the
club
and
the
party?
Yeah,
or
sometimes
after
in
the
morning
Yeah
got
ya,
you
know
really
unbelievable.
That
is
one
of
the
best
things
I’ve
heard
today.
Anymore
good memories
you want
to
share
or
talk
about
before
we
move
on?
Just
meeting
a
lot
of
new
people.
Like
I
said,
I’ve
got
friends
now in
every
town.
Other
countries
I
can
go
to
several
countries
where
people
who’ve
moved
away
and
moved
on.
I’m
friends
with
them
all
thanks
to
social
media
as
well.
There was
no
smartphones
or anything
in
the
day
like
that
but,
we,
we
just
kept
in
touch
somewhere
along
the
lines
we
found
each
other.
Back
then
you used
to have
to
ring
somebody
up.
You
know,
I
mean,
it
was
actually
using
the
telephone.
And
we,
I
stayed
in
touch
with
at
least
400
people
who
I
can
still
call
good
friends
from
that.
You
know,
it’s
amazing.
Any
dark
memories
of
the
time?
Looking
back
at
the
time
no.
But
looking
back
now,
I
suppose
the
health
and
safety
aspect
of
it
all.
Driving
around
in some
of
the
states
people
were
doing
maybe
could
be
seen
as
dark.
And
then
towards
the
end
when
the
gangsters
kind
of
tried
to
take
over
and
you
know,
seeing
the
money
that
could
be
made
right
and
then it
went
from
then
having
a
good
time
to
making
money.
Which
ultimately
killed
it,
for
me
anyway,
you
know
if
that
was
a
dark
thing,
I
don’t
know.
I
mean
obviously
the
police
as
well
there.
They
had
to
stop
it
somewhere.
It
was
too
big,
you
know,
so
I don’t
even know
if you can
call
that
dark,
but,
it
was
a
dark
day
on
the,
in
unit
7
was
it?
When
they,
when
they,
when
they
all
came
in.
That
was
a
bad
day.
Was
that
Nelson?
Yeah,
it
was…
but
they
had
to
do
something.
You
know,
I
mean
they
had
to
do
something
it
getting
that
big.
But
dark,
I
didn’t
see
anything
bad
really
nothing
that
worried
me at
the
time
anyway.
When
it
finished
or
if
it
finished,
what
did
you
do
afterwards?
Well,
when
the
Blackburn
finished
because
I’m
from
Wigan
Army
Pals
from
Wigan.
We
set
off
the
Revenge
side
of
things.
So
we
moved
on
from
Blackburn
with
the
Revenge,
tried
a
couple
of
legal
things.
We
did
a
few
illegal
ones.
I
did
a
couple
myself
in
Skelmersdale.
And
from
that
with
me
interest in
music,
I
packed
my
job
in
and
I
opened
a
record shop.
And I had
a record
shop
for
15
years.
Selling
dance
music.
And
then
I
had
another
one in
Southport.
So
I
had
two
dance
music
shops.
Buying
and
Selling
equipment.
Dance
tunes
I
still
sell em
now
online.
I
still
do
that
as
well.
So
I
got
a
bit
of
a
career
out
of
it.
I
suppose
through
me
interest in
music.
It
was
good.
Had
one
in
Wigan
called
Flawless
Records.
And
one
in
Southport
called
Elite
Vinyl.
What
I
like
about
what
we’re
doing
today
is
that
I’m
interested
in
the
working-class
history
of
these
areas
of
Northern
towns
particularly.
Okay,
Like
a
post-industrial,
what’s
been
happening
in
the
mills
and
warehouses
working-class
kid.
Yeah.
All
the
stuff you’ve
talked
about,
football,
casuals,
but
I
go
right
back
to,
there
were
people
working
in these
mills
that
were
poets.
Yeah.
150
years
ago.
What
I
really
like
the
idea
of
Andy
is in
another
100
years,
some
of
our
kids,
some
of our
people
are
going
to
be
listening
to
you
lot
talking
about
a
time
that
will
be
you
know,
to
them,
way
back.
Yeah.
Are
you,
that,
you
know,
they’re
listening
to
all
of
your
stories
not
reading
em in
someone
else’s
book,
hearing
your
voices.
Yeah.
And
you’ve
got
an
opportunity
to
say
something
to
them.
What
would
you
say
to
em?
Anything’s
possible.
If
you
want
it
go
for
it.
I
never
thought
I’d
have
a
shop.
I
came
out
of
the
dance
scene
thinking
what
am I
going
to
do
now
cos
I was
stuck
in
a
dead-end
job.
I
thought
you
know
what,
what do
I love?
I
love
music.
I
went
and
got
a shop.
Just
go
for
it.