Click to play
If
somebody
was
looking
at
this
archive
from
100
years
ago
some
some
teenager
researching
Blackburn
and
researching
Acid
House
parties.
What
would
you…
what
message
would
you
send
…
out
to
them?
Other
than
they
missed
out
I
suppose,
you’ve
got
to
give
it
a
go
You’ve
got
to
get
out
there
and….
Yeah,
so you
wouldn’t
so there’s
no
negative
things
about
it?
Looking
at…
not…
not…
not…
in
the
bigger
picture.
No,
I
mean
don’t
get
me
wrong.
There
are
some
negative
bits
and
there
were
some
good
bits,
but
the
whole
balance
for
me…
the
whole
picture
for
me
personally,
…
there…
was
more
positive
stuff
than…
and
more
good
times
than
there
were
bad
times.
Yeah
some
something
for
Blackburn
and
in
general.
Yeah.
Like I
said
it
made
a
difference.
Yeah.
I
mean
to
be
fair
we
put
Blackburn
on
the
map…
for
something.
Yeah.
Full Transcript:
If
somebody
was
looking
at
this
archive
from
100
years
ago
some
some
teenager
researching
Blackburn
and
researching
Acid
House
parties.
What
would
you…
what
message
would
you
send
…
out
to
them?
Other
than
they
missed
out
I
suppose,
you’ve
got
to
give
it
a
go
You’ve
got
to
get
out
there
and….
Yeah,
so you
wouldn’t
so there’s
no
negative
things
about
it?
Looking
at…
not…
not…
not…
in
the
bigger
picture.
No,
I
mean
don’t
get
me
wrong.
There
are
some
negative
bits
and
there
were
some
good
bits,
but
the
whole
balance
for
me…
the
whole
picture
for
me
personally,
…
there…
was
more
positive
stuff
than…
and
more
good
times
than
there
were
bad
times.
Yeah
some
something
for
Blackburn
and
in
general.
Yeah.
Like I
said
it
made
a
difference.
Yeah.
I
mean
to
be
fair
we
put
Blackburn
on
the
map…
for
something.
Yeah.
Tommo Full Interview
Click to play
How will I
remember
Blackburn?
Carnage
really
sort
of
how
did
I
get
involved
with it
the people
I
knew
were
involved
in
it
because
originally
the
girl
that
I was
going
with
her
dad
was
a
doorman
at
the
Sett
End
and
went
on
to
work
behind
the
bar.
So
that
automatically
sucked
me
in
to
Sett
End
side
of
of
stuff
which
obviously…
then…
I
obviously
knew
a
few
other
people
like
Willie
O’neill
and
a few
other
people
who were
involved
in
it.
And
obviously
it
went
from
there.
It
went
from
Live
The
Dream
into
the
raves
and…
Right
so
tell
us about
Sett
End
was
…
…
What
was
it
like?
Awesome
absolutely
Awesome.
It
was
a
club
up
in
Shadsworth
and
well,
it was
Friday
and
Saturday
night
…
well,
in the end
it
was
Friday and Saturday nights
both
nights
wasn’t it.
Yeah,
and
absolutely
awesome
different
place
like
sort
of
walking
into
a
completely
different
environment
then…
you’d
get
out
at
2
o’clock
int’ morning
And
and
what
about
the
parties?
What
did
you
think…
when did
you
first
go
to
the
parties?
Right
from
the
get-go…
right
from
the
get-go…
Live
The
Dream
…
obviously I went to
I missed
the
Blast-Off
and
the
ones
before
that,
but
obviously,
yeah
straight
down
to
the
Albion…
And
on
from
there.
And
how
would
…
you
describe
it?
Life-changing
in
…
In
what
way?
Just
you
had to
be
there
really…
had
to
be
there.
Just
you…
just
walking
in
everybody…
just…
just…
just
full
of
people
who
were
similar
minded
and
you
were
just
there
to
dance
and
obviously
the
chemicals
obviously
…
had an
adverse
effect
on
it.
Yeah
so
Live
the
Dream
was
a
moment
for
me
to
really
just…
for
all
the
people
who
don’t
know…
what
was
Live
The
Dream?
Live
The
Dream
was
a
party
on
the
outskirts
of
Blackburn
up
on
the
top…
on
the
way
out
towards
Tockholes..
errr
in tent
on
the
top
of
the
hill
you
could
hear
it
for
miles.
It
was
sort
of
like
the
the
launch
into…
into…
into…
sorry the…
the
Blackburn
party
side
really
it
was
sort
of
the
first
experience
that
a
lot
of
people
have
had
of
that
thing.
Obviously
everything
that
went
with
it.
But
yeah,
I
remember
being
stood
in
that
sense
at
one
point
when
the
sort
of
DJs
changed
and
there was
certain
records
played
and
it
was
yeah
was
life-changing
…
and
never
look
back
don’t
really
know
whether
that’s
a
good
thing.
I
don’t
know…
Any
other
amazing
memories
would
you
say?
Everything
really…
too
many…
too
many…
just…
just…
just…
just
so
much
just
so
much
stuff.
It’s
ridiculous.
Like
funny
stuff…
stuff
that
you
you
wouldn’t
believe
now
just
to
do
with
the
whole
thing,
you
know
everything
really.
Why
was
it
so
different
then?
Is
it
cos..
cos..
it
was
illegal
or
is
it
just
because
because
Blackburn
was..
it
was
a
booming
town
anyway
…
it
was
really
busy.
It
was
just
the
right
thing.
It
was
just
the
right
thing
at
the
right
time.
I
suppose,
Yeah
for
a
certain
section
of
the
community
who
didn’t
want
to
sort
of
around
the
sort
of
Peppermint
Place
type
environments
I
suppose,
you
do
it
know
you
could
just
turn
up
and
….
have
a
…
party
basically
not
get
your
block
knocked
off.
Do
you
think
it
had
any
bad
effects
on
Blackburn?
I
don’t
know,
really
I
didn’t…
I
didn’t
really
notice
any
bad
..
…
sides
to
it
because
you…
you
were all
sort
of
sucked
into
this
movement
that
was
going
along
really
it…
as…
far
as…
there
was
a
number
of
people
who
got
their
buildings
broke
into…
I
don’t
think
we
made
that
much
of
a
mess
…
really
apart
from
tin
can
carnage
but…
…
If
somebody
was
looking
at
this
archive
from
100
years
ago
some
some
teenager
researching
Blackburn
and
researching
Acid
House
parties.
What
would
you…
what
message
would
you
…
send
out
to
them?
Other
than
they
missed
out
I
suppose,
you’ve
got
to
give
it
a
go
haven’t ya?
You’ve
got
to
get
out
there
and….
Yeah,
so you
wouldn’t
so there’s
no
negative
things
about
it?
Looking
at…
not…
not…
not…
in
the
bigger
picture.
No,
I
mean
don’t
get
me
wrong.
There
are
some
negative
bits
and
there
were
some
good
bits,
but
the
whole
balance
for
me…
the
whole
picture
for
me
personally,
there…
was
more
positive
stuff
than…
and
more
good
times
than
there
were
bad
times.
Yeah
some
something
for
Blackburn
and
in
general.
Yeah.
Like i
said
it
made
a
difference.
Yeah.
I
mean
to
be
fair
we
put
Blackburn
on
the
map…
for
something.
Yeah.
Full Transcript:
How will I
remember
Blackburn?
Carnage
really
sort
of
how
did
I
get
involved
with it
the people
I
knew
were
involved
in
it
because
originally
the
girl
that
I was
going
with
her
dad
was
a
doorman
at
the
Sett
End
and
went
on
to
work
behind
the
bar.
So
that
automatically
sucked
me
in
to
Sett
End
side
of
of
stuff
which
obviously…
then…
I
obviously
knew
a
few
other
people
like
Willie
O’neill
and
a few
other
people
who were
involved
in
it.
And
obviously
it
went
from
there.
It
went
from
Live
The
Dream
into
the
raves
and…
Right
so
tell
us about
Sett
End
was
…
…
What
was
it
like?
Awesome
absolutely
Awesome.
It
was
a
club
up
in
Shadsworth
and
well,
it was
Friday
and
Saturday
night
…
well,
in the end
it
was
Friday and Saturday nights
both
nights
wasn’t it.
Yeah,
and
absolutely
awesome
different
place
like
sort
of
walking
into
a
completely
different
environment
then…
you’d
get
out
at
2
o’clock
int’ morning
And
and
what
about
the
parties?
What
did
you
think…
when did
you
first
go
to
the
parties?
Right
from
the
get-go…
right
from
the
get-go…
Live
The
Dream
…
obviously I went to
I missed
the
Blast-Off
and
the
ones
before
that,
but
obviously,
yeah
straight
down
to
the
Albion…
And
on
from
there.
And
how
would
…
you
describe
it?
Life-changing
in
…
In
what
way?
Just
you
had to
be
there
really…
had
to
be
there.
Just
you…
just
walking
in
everybody…
just…
just…
just
full
of
people
who
were
similar
minded
and
you
were
just
there
to
dance
and
obviously
the
chemicals
obviously
…
had an
adverse
effect
on
it.
Yeah
so
Live
the
Dream
was
a
moment
for
me
to
really
just…
for
all
the
people
who
don’t
know…
what
was
Live
The
Dream?
Live
The
Dream
was
a
party
on
the
outskirts
of
Blackburn
up
on
the
top…
on
the
way
out
towards
Tockholes..
errr
in tent
on
the
top
of
the
hill
you
could
hear
it
for
miles.
It
was
sort
of
like
the
the
launch
into…
into…
into…
sorry the…
the
Blackburn
party
side
really
it
was
sort
of
the
first
experience
that
a
lot
of
people
have
had
of
that
thing.
Obviously
everything
that
went
with
it.
But
yeah,
I
remember
being
stood
in
that
sense
at
one
point
when
the
sort
of
DJs
changed
and
there was
certain
records
played
and
it
was
yeah
was
life-changing
…
and
never
look
back
don’t
really
know
whether
that’s
a
good
thing.
I
don’t
know…
Any
other
amazing
memories
would
you
say?
Everything
really…
too
many…
too
many…
just…
just…
just…
just
so
much
just
so
much
stuff.
It’s
ridiculous.
Like
funny
stuff…
stuff
that
you
you
wouldn’t
believe
now
just
to
do
with
the
whole
thing,
you
know
everything
really.
Why
was
it
so
different
then?
Is
it
cos..
cos..
it
was
illegal
or
is
it
just
because
because
Blackburn
was..
it
was
a
booming
town
anyway
…
it
was
really
busy.
It
was
just
the
right
thing.
It
was
just
the
right
thing
at
the
right
time.
I
suppose,
Yeah
for
a
certain
section
of
the
community
who
didn’t
want
to
sort
of
around
the
sort
of
Peppermint
Place
type
environments
I
suppose,
you
do
it
know
you
could
just
turn
up
and
….
have
a
…
party
basically
not
get
your
block
knocked
off.
Do
you
think
it
had
any
bad
effects
on
Blackburn?
I
don’t
know,
really
I
didn’t…
I
didn’t
really
notice
any
bad
..
…
sides
to
it
because
you…
you
were all
sort
of
sucked
into
this
movement
that
was
going
along
really
it…
as…
far
as…
there
was
a
number
of
people
who
got
their
buildings
broke
into…
I
don’t
think
we
made
that
much
of
a
mess
…
really
apart
from
tin
can
carnage
but…
…
If
somebody
was
looking
at
this
archive
from
100
years
ago
some
some
teenager
researching
Blackburn
and
researching
Acid
House
parties.
What
would
you…
what
message
would
you
…
send
out
to
them?
Other
than
they
missed
out
I
suppose,
you’ve
got
to
give
it
a
go
haven’t ya?
You’ve
got
to
get
out
there
and….
Yeah,
so you
wouldn’t
so there’s
no
negative
things
about
it?
Looking
at…
not…
not…
not…
in
the
bigger
picture.
No,
I
mean
don’t
get
me
wrong.
There
are
some
negative
bits
and
there
were
some
good
bits,
but
the
whole
balance
for
me…
the
whole
picture
for
me
personally,
there…
was
more
positive
stuff
than…
and
more
good
times
than
there
were
bad
times.
Yeah
some
something
for
Blackburn
and
in
general.
Yeah.
Like i
said
it
made
a
difference.
Yeah.
I
mean
to
be
fair
we
put
Blackburn
on
the
map…
for
something.
Yeah.
Tony Getting Involved Part 1
Click to play
How
did
you
get
involved?
What
with
the whole
Acid
House
thing?
I
woke
up
one
day
after
going
to
a
club
called
The
Hacienda
with
just
a
new
horizon
of…
I
want
this.
This
is
me.
This
is
what
I
class as
music
that
I’m
going
to
like
throughout
the
entirety
of
the
night
as
opposed
to
the
odd
song
thrown
in
here
and
there,
and
I
was
sold.
It
was,
it
was
me.
It
was,
you
could
have
put
my
name
on
it.
When
you
got
it
moving,
you
got
involved
in
it.
What
are
the,
what
are
the
starting
points?
If
you
go
take
us
from
the
Hacienda
to
Blackburn…
How
did
it
start
in
Blackburn?
Well,
basically
because
we were
a
group
of
people
that
are
all
like
minded
who,
who
had
all
been
going
to
the
Hacienda
and
began to
just
get
a
little
bit
disillusioned
with
the
2
o’clock
finish
because
at
2
o’clock
really
the
night
was
just
beginning
to
move.
So at
2
o’clock
driving
back
and
then
wanting
more,
coming
back
to
Blackburn
being
in
people’s
houses,
playing
music
…
and
it
just
not
being
enough.
And
you
wanted
that
more
more
feeling.
Well,
it
wasn’t
fulfilling
enough
basically.
Full Transcript:
How
did
you
get
involved?
What
with
the whole
Acid
House
thing?
I
woke
up
one
day
after
going
to
a
club
called
The
Hacienda
with
just
a
new
horizon
of…
I
want
this.
This
is
me.
This
is
what
I
class as
music
that
I’m
going
to
like
throughout
the
entirety
of
the
night
as
opposed
to
the
odd
song
thrown
in
here
and
there,
and
I
was
sold.
It
was,
it
was
me.
It
was,
you
could
have
put
my
name
on
it.
When
you
got
it
moving,
you
got
involved
in
it.
What
are
the,
what
are
the
starting
points?
If
you
go
take
us
from
the
Hacienda
to
Blackburn…
How
did
it
start
in
Blackburn?
Well,
basically
because
we were
a
group
of
people
that
are
all
like
minded
who,
who
had
all
been
going
to
the
Hacienda
and
began to
just
get
a
little
bit
disillusioned
with
the
2
o’clock
finish
because
at
2
o’clock
really
the
night
was
just
beginning
to
move.
So at
2
o’clock
driving
back
and
then
wanting
more,
coming
back
to
Blackburn
being
in
people’s
houses,
playing
music
…
and
it
just
not
being
enough.
And
you
wanted
that
more
more
feeling.
Well,
it
wasn’t
fulfilling
enough
basically.
Tony Getting Involved Part 2
Click to play
Tell
me
about
the
early
…
organisational
stuff
then,
where
did
you
start
doing
it
when
it
started,
you
know,
you’re
coming
back
from
the
Hacienda,
where
you
going
to?
Well,
we
had
a
little
club
called
Crackers,
who
was
a
good
friend
of
basically
everybody
because
we
all
used
to
go
in
there.
So
we
all
knew
Clitheroe
Kate
…
…
on
a,
quite
a
friendly
basis
of
simply…
Can
we
use
upstairs?
And Kate
went…
Yeah,
no
problem.
It
wasn’t
1
decision
it was
a
collective
decision
of
several
people
who
looking back,
I can’t
remember
really
who
broached
it
with
Clitheroe
Kate.
So
we
had
Crackers.
Where
was
Crackers?
Crackers
was
above
Jazzy
Kex’s.
Victoria Street.
On
Victoria
Street,
yeah.
Little
building,
scruffy,
falling
to
pieces
inside.
But
because
of
the
nightclub
thing
downstairs
there
was a
bar
there
and
it
was,
it
was
a,
quite
a
good
vibe
before
you
even
went
in
and
up
there
because
you were
going
through
a
music-based
room,
warm,
friendly
people,
to
a
room
upstairs
…
like
a
whole
upstairs
if
you
will.
And
yeah,
we
got
that
moving
and
first
night
completely
full.
We had
about
5
6
weeks
…
and
then
it
progressed
from
there
in
a
way
because
we
were
told
we
couldn’t
have
it
anymore.
So
from
not
being
able
to
have
it
anymore,
it
was
kind
of a
brick
wall.
And
then,
I
was
…
in
the
gym
one
day.
And one
of
the
lads
who
was
a
doorman
of
a
club
called
the
Sett
End
over
at’
Red
Parrot.
So,
I
explained
the
situation
to
him
and
he
said…
Listen,
come
up
and
see
the
owner
of
it.
There’s
nobody
going
in
there.
You
can
have
it
for
anything.
He’ll
let
you
do
whatever
you
want.
So
I rang
Tommy
up
and
Tommy
and I
then
got
a
taxi
up
there,
had
a
quick
word
with
them.
And they
went… yeah.
And
that
was
it,
we
were
sorted,
we
could’ve
had
anything
we
wanted
in
there.
All
he
wanted
was
money
going
behind
the
bar.
And
then
it
was
boom,
it
was
…
From
the
first
weekend
being
two-thirds
full,
the
second
weekend
being
completely
full,
…
the
third
weekend
2
or
3
thousand
people,
outside
in
cars
wanting
to
get
into
the
property.
And
then
after
the
Sett
End,
we
needed
a party.
We
need
a
party
after
it.
And
it
was
just
Blackburn,
the
mill
town,
post
industrial
buildings
empty
everywhere
and
we
thought…
right,
okay,
after
the
disappointments
of
Manchester
not
being
able
to
provide
us
with
an
afterparty
…
if
you
will,
then
we
provided
our own
and
moved
on
from
there.
Bigger
buildings,
better
buildings.
Of
course,
we
made
sure
that
they
were
all
safe.
…
No
structural
problems,
no
problems
with the
integrity
of
anything.
When
you
…
when
you
moved
from…
…
…
…
…
…
…
…
you
basically
set up
your
own
club night.
And now
you
know,
you’ve
got
the
same
problem
that
you had
with
Hacienda.
Your
club night
finishes
and you
want
to
get,
you
want
to
move
on.
What
year
did,
what,
so
what
year
was
it
roughly
when
it
started?
You
were
leaving
the
Hacienda
and you
were setting
up at
Crackers?
Hacienda
was
87
87
moving
into
89
It
was
about
…
…
early
89
…
The
Cracker
thing
ended
because
it,
it
was
an
abrupt
time
because
the
woman
that,
…
who
actually
owned
the
building
basically
went…
I’m
not
having
that
devil
music
played
in
any
of
my
establishments.
She
said
that’s it,
we’re
out.
And
Clitheroe
Kate
who
rented
the
building
off
Margaret,
or
Margo
…
said…
You
either
get
rid
of
them
or
I’ll
get
rid
of
you.
So
that
was
basically
the
end
of
the
Crackers
era.
And
then
you,
your
up
at the
Sett
End
at
the
Red
Parrot?
Yep,
And
then
you’re
running
that
and
then
the
parties
are
getting
bigger
and
bigger.
Full Transcript:
Tell
me
about
the
early
…
organisational
stuff
then,
where
did
you
start
doing
it
when
it
started,
you
know,
you’re
coming
back
from
the
Hacienda,
where
you
going
to?
Well,
we
had
a
little
club
called
Crackers,
who
was
a
good
friend
of
basically
everybody
because
we
all
used
to
go
in
there.
So
we
all
knew
Clitheroe
Kate
…
…
on
a,
quite
a
friendly
basis
of
simply…
Can
we
use
upstairs?
And Kate
went…
Yeah,
no
problem.
It
wasn’t
1
decision
it was
a
collective
decision
of
several
people
who
looking back,
I can’t
remember
really
who
broached
it
with
Clitheroe
Kate.
So
we
had
Crackers.
Where
was
Crackers?
Crackers
was
above
Jazzy
Kex’s.
Victoria Street.
On
Victoria
Street,
yeah.
Little
building,
scruffy,
falling
to
pieces
inside.
But
because
of
the
nightclub
thing
downstairs
there
was a
bar
there
and
it
was,
it
was
a,
quite
a
good
vibe
before
you
even
went
in
and
up
there
because
you were
going
through
a
music-based
room,
warm,
friendly
people,
to
a
room
upstairs
…
like
a
whole
upstairs
if
you
will.
And
yeah,
we
got
that
moving
and
first
night
completely
full.
We had
about
5
6
weeks
…
and
then
it
progressed
from
there
in
a
way
because
we
were
told
we
couldn’t
have
it
anymore.
So
from
not
being
able
to
have
it
anymore,
it
was
kind
of a
brick
wall.
And
then,
I
was
…
in
the
gym
one
day.
And one
of
the
lads
who
was
a
doorman
of
a
club
called
the
Sett
End
over
at’
Red
Parrot.
So,
I
explained
the
situation
to
him
and
he
said…
Listen,
come
up
and
see
the
owner
of
it.
There’s
nobody
going
in
there.
You
can
have
it
for
anything.
He’ll
let
you
do
whatever
you
want.
So
I rang
Tommy
up
and
Tommy
and I
then
got
a
taxi
up
there,
had
a
quick
word
with
them.
And they
went… yeah.
And
that
was
it,
we
were
sorted,
we
could’ve
had
anything
we
wanted
in
there.
All
he
wanted
was
money
going
behind
the
bar.
And
then
it
was
boom,
it
was
…
From
the
first
weekend
being
two-thirds
full,
the
second
weekend
being
completely
full,
…
the
third
weekend
2
or
3
thousand
people,
outside
in
cars
wanting
to
get
into
the
property.
And
then
after
the
Sett
End,
we
needed
a party.
We
need
a
party
after
it.
And
it
was
just
Blackburn,
the
mill
town,
post
industrial
buildings
empty
everywhere
and
we
thought…
right,
okay,
after
the
disappointments
of
Manchester
not
being
able
to
provide
us
with
an
afterparty
…
if
you
will,
then
we
provided
our own
and
moved
on
from
there.
Bigger
buildings,
better
buildings.
Of
course,
we
made
sure
that
they
were
all
safe.
…
No
structural
problems,
no
problems
with the
integrity
of
anything.
When
you
…
when
you
moved
from…
…
…
…
…
…
…
…
you
basically
set up
your
own
club night.
And now
you
know,
you’ve
got
the
same
problem
that
you had
with
Hacienda.
Your
club night
finishes
and you
want
to
get,
you
want
to
move
on.
What
year
did,
what,
so
what
year
was
it
roughly
when
it
started?
You
were
leaving
the
Hacienda
and you
were setting
up at
Crackers?
Hacienda
was
87
87
moving
into
89
It
was
about
…
…
early
89
…
The
Cracker
thing
ended
because
it,
it
was
an
abrupt
time
because
the
woman
that,
…
who
actually
owned
the
building
basically
went…
I’m
not
having
that
devil
music
played
in
any
of
my
establishments.
She
said
that’s it,
we’re
out.
And
Clitheroe
Kate
who
rented
the
building
off
Margaret,
or
Margo
…
said…
You
either
get
rid
of
them
or
I’ll
get
rid
of
you.
So
that
was
basically
the
end
of
the
Crackers
era.
And
then
you,
your
up
at the
Sett
End
at
the
Red
Parrot?
Yep,
And
then
you’re
running
that
and
then
the
parties
are
getting
bigger
and
bigger.
Tony Bad Memories
Click to play
Do you
have
dark memories
of
the
time?
I
think
the
darkest
memories
of
it
were
when,
because
of
the
Manchester
element,
the,
I’m
not
gunna
use
gangsters’.
I
don’t
believe
they
were
gangsters
in
the
1
word
of
gangsters.’
An
element
that
was
quite
violent,
who
wrongly
or
rightly
I
got
involved…
it
were
a joint
decision,
but
mainly
me.
Because
of
an
element
in
Blackburn
but
wanted
what
they
thought
was
a
cash
cow
for
them,
and
it
wasn’t,
they
wanted
it
all.
So
cut
y’ nose
spite
your
face
in
a
dark place
but
…
or
whatever.
I,
well
we,
Thompson
and I
got
the…
I’m
trying
to
think of
the
word…
Salford
Mafia
…
we’ll
use.
Got
the
Salford
Mafia
as
our
protection,
…
because
we
knew
that
they
had
the
weight
to
come
over
to
Blackburn,
and
tell
the
people
in
Blackburn
who
wanted
to
take
what
was
ours
away
from
us,
that
they
weren’t
doing
it.
So
they
were
dark
times
really,
it should
have
stopped
then,
but
I
just
couldn’t
…
nobody
could
let
it
go.
We
just
couldn’t
walk
away
from
something
that
was,
our
life,
if
you
will.
We
just
couldn’t
leave
it.
So
that,
…
…
…
…
…
they
were
quite
dark
times.
And,
and
because
they
were
there,
violence
started
to
become
apparent
throughout
the
night,
various
little
things
that
never
happened
until
they
came,
cos
they
believed
that
they
owned
the
right
to
do
one
thing
or
the
right
to
do
another,
and
they
didn’t,
so
that’s
when
hence
going
back
to
Lomeshaye
…
where
they
were
all
pointers
and
as
a
clock
that’s
getting
closer
to
12
o’clock
that
it were
going
to
be
over
with.
Full Transcript:
Do you
have
dark memories
of
the
time?
I
think
the
darkest
memories
of
it
were
when,
because
of
the
Manchester
element,
the,
I’m
not
gunna
use
gangsters’.
I
don’t
believe
they
were
gangsters
in
the
1
word
of
gangsters.’
An
element
that
was
quite
violent,
who
wrongly
or
rightly
I
got
involved…
it
were
a joint
decision,
but
mainly
me.
Because
of
an
element
in
Blackburn
but
wanted
what
they
thought
was
a
cash
cow
for
them,
and
it
wasn’t,
they
wanted
it
all.
So
cut
y’ nose
spite
your
face
in
a
dark place
but
…
or
whatever.
I,
well
we,
Thompson
and I
got
the…
I’m
trying
to
think of
the
word…
Salford
Mafia
…
we’ll
use.
Got
the
Salford
Mafia
as
our
protection,
…
because
we
knew
that
they
had
the
weight
to
come
over
to
Blackburn,
and
tell
the
people
in
Blackburn
who
wanted
to
take
what
was
ours
away
from
us,
that
they
weren’t
doing
it.
So
they
were
dark
times
really,
it should
have
stopped
then,
but
I
just
couldn’t
…
nobody
could
let
it
go.
We
just
couldn’t
walk
away
from
something
that
was,
our
life,
if
you
will.
We
just
couldn’t
leave
it.
So
that,
…
…
…
…
…
they
were
quite
dark
times.
And,
and
because
they
were
there,
violence
started
to
become
apparent
throughout
the
night,
various
little
things
that
never
happened
until
they
came,
cos
they
believed
that
they
owned
the
right
to
do
one
thing
or
the
right
to
do
another,
and
they
didn’t,
so
that’s
when
hence
going
back
to
Lomeshaye
…
where
they
were
all
pointers
and
as
a
clock
that’s
getting
closer
to
12
o’clock
that
it were
going
to
be
over
with.
Tony Good Memories
Click to play
What
are your
best
memories
of
those
times?
To
eh…
it
was
all
one
big
memory.
You
couldn’t,
I
couldn’t,
every
weekend
it
just
got
better,
and
better
and
better.
You
could
never
turn
around
after
one
of
them
and
say,
well
you
did
at
first
you went…
That
was
the
best
one,
that
one.
But
the
week
after
came,
and
that
was
the
best
one.
They
were
all
the
best
one
after
each
one.
The
best
one,
the
best
one,
the
best
one.
You
couldn’t,
I
mean
people
that
I
met,
some
fantastic
people
which
were
a
good
memory
because
I’m
friends
with
them
30
years
later.
…
Who,
in
the
walks
of
life
that
they
had,
now
…
…
because
of
then,
I
would
never
have
met
them.
But
because
of
the
fact
that
we were
all
in
it
together,
and
we
were
all
in
it
together.
It
wasn’t
just
1
person
that,
and
I
always
maintain
this
about
who
did
what,
the
whole
scene
would
never
have
happened
if
it
wasn’t
for
everybody
that
was
there.
Everybody
that
was
prepared
to
get
their
car
clamped,
tickets,
double
parked,
car
removed,
it
was
every
single
person
that
turned
up,
…
made
that
happen.
Full Transcript:
What
are your
best
memories
of
those
times?
To
eh…
it
was
all
one
big
memory.
You
couldn’t,
I
couldn’t,
every
weekend
it
just
got
better,
and
better
and
better.
You
could
never
turn
around
after
one
of
them
and
say,
well
you
did
at
first
you went…
That
was
the
best
one,
that
one.
But
the
week
after
came,
and
that
was
the
best
one.
They
were
all
the
best
one
after
each
one.
The
best
one,
the
best
one,
the
best
one.
You
couldn’t,
I
mean
people
that
I
met,
some
fantastic
people
which
were
a
good
memory
because
I’m
friends
with
them
30
years
later.
…
Who,
in
the
walks
of
life
that
they
had,
now
…
…
because
of
then,
I
would
never
have
met
them.
But
because
of
the
fact
that
we were
all
in
it
together,
and
we
were
all
in
it
together.
It
wasn’t
just
1
person
that,
and
I
always
maintain
this
about
who
did
what,
the
whole
scene
would
never
have
happened
if
it
wasn’t
for
everybody
that
was
there.
Everybody
that
was
prepared
to
get
their
car
clamped,
tickets,
double
parked,
car
removed,
it
was
every
single
person
that
turned
up,
…
made
that
happen.
Tony Life Afterwards
Click to play
What
happened
to
Tony
Kreft
after
the
parties
finished?
…
I
packed
a
bag
and
moved
to
Holland.
Went
to
Holland
and,
and
continued
through
their
party
scene.
Going
to
their,
their,
I hate
the
word
rave…
clubs
and
dance
night
clubs
because
they
were,
they
were
brand-new
and
they
…
…
…
And
so
it’s
quite,
it
was
like
going
back
2
to
3
years
in
the
UK
because
they
were,
they
lagged
behind
massively
but
it was
just
unfolding
in
Dutch
society.
So
I,
I
continued
…
with
that
and
just
left
Blackburn
because
I’d,
I’d
had
enough.
Full Transcript:
What
happened
to
Tony
Kreft
after
the
parties
finished?
…
I
packed
a
bag
and
moved
to
Holland.
Went
to
Holland
and,
and
continued
through
their
party
scene.
Going
to
their,
their,
I hate
the
word
rave…
clubs
and
dance
night
clubs
because
they
were,
they
were
brand-new
and
they
…
…
…
And
so
it’s
quite,
it
was
like
going
back
2
to
3
years
in
the
UK
because
they
were,
they
lagged
behind
massively
but
it was
just
unfolding
in
Dutch
society.
So
I,
I
continued
…
with
that
and
just
left
Blackburn
because
I’d,
I’d
had
enough.
Tony Advice For Future Generations
Click to play
You
know,
I’m
interested
in
telling
the
stories
of
these
spaces
in
these
working
class
stories
from
a
…
hundred
years.
Yeah.
These
mills
and
warehouses
…
is
that
sense
of
history.
What
I
like
is
that
there’s
going
to
be
a
kid
or
a
researcher
or
someone
in
a
100
years
listening
to
you
all
telling
your
stories
…
not
reading
someone’s
book
or
watching
someone
else’s
film.
They
can
go
on…
listen
to
you
all
of
you
and
everyone’s
got
a
different
tale
to
tell
but
you’ve
also
got
opportunity
to
talk
to
a
kid
from
Blackburn in
100
years
about
you
have
you
were
doing
what
would
you
say
to
him?
Now
as
I’m
sat here
not
to somebody
100
years
in
the
future.
I
wish
they
could
have
could
have
the
times
that
we
had
because
I
speak
to
children
of
today
and
they
all
want
it.
They all
look
at…
look
with
sad
eyes
and
regret
and
you
know
that
what
we
had
then
they
never
going
to
have
now.
So
I
hope
that
in
100
years
time
there’s
the
ability
for
them
to
have
the
freedom
and
to
have
a
night
that
totally
belongs
to
them.
Full Transcript:
You
know,
I’m
interested
in
telling
the
stories
of
these
spaces
in
these
working
class
stories
from
a
…
hundred
years.
Yeah.
These
mills
and
warehouses
…
is
that
sense
of
history.
What
I
like
is
that
there’s
going
to
be
a
kid
or
a
researcher
or
someone
in
a
100
years
listening
to
you
all
telling
your
stories
…
not
reading
someone’s
book
or
watching
someone
else’s
film.
They
can
go
on…
listen
to
you
all
of
you
and
everyone’s
got
a
different
tale
to
tell
but
you’ve
also
got
opportunity
to
talk
to
a
kid
from
Blackburn in
100
years
about
you
have
you
were
doing
what
would
you
say
to
him?
Now
as
I’m
sat here
not
to somebody
100
years
in
the
future.
I
wish
they
could
have
could
have
the
times
that
we
had
because
I
speak
to
children
of
today
and
they
all
want
it.
They all
look
at…
look
with
sad
eyes
and
regret
and
you
know
that
what
we
had
then
they
never
going
to
have
now.
So
I
hope
that
in
100
years
time
there’s
the
ability
for
them
to
have
the
freedom
and
to
have
a
night
that
totally
belongs
to
them.
Tony Full Interview
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How
did
you
get
involved?
What
was
the
old
Acid
House
thing?
I
woke
up
one
day
after
going
to
a
club
called
the
Hacienda
was
just
a
new
horizon
of just
I
want
this.
This
is
me.
This
is
what
I
class as
music
that
I’m
going
to
like
throughout
the
entirety
of
the
night
as
opposed
to
the
old
song
thrown
in
here
and
there
and
I
was
sold
I
was
it
was
me
it
was
you
could
have
put
my
name
on
it.
When
you
got
it
moving
you
got
involved
in
it.
What
are
the
what
are
the
starting
points?
If
you
go
take
us
from
the
Hacienda
to
Blackburn
how
did
it
start in
Blackburn?
Well,
basically
we were
a
group
of
people
we were
all
like
minded
who
who
had
all
been
going
to
the
Hacienda
and began
to
just
get
a
little
bit
disillusioned
with
the
2
o’clock
finish
because
at
2
o’clock
really
the
night
was
just
beginning
to
move
so at
2
o’clock
driving
back
and
then
wanting
more
coming
back
to
Blackburn
being
in
people’s
houses
playing
playing
some
music
and it
just
not
being
enough
and
you
wanted
that
more
more
feeling.
Well,
it
wasn’t
fulfilling
enough
basically.
Tell
me
about
the
earlier
organisational
stuff
then
where
did
you
start
doing
it
when
it
started,
you
know,
you’re
coming
back
from
the
Hacienda
where
you’re
you going
to?
Well,
we
had
a
little
club
called
Crackers
who
was
a
good
friend
of
basically
everybody
because
we
all
used
to
go
in
there
so
we
all
new
Clitheroe
Kate
on
a
quite
a
friendly
basis
of
simply
can we
use
upstairs
and
Kate
went
Yeah,
no
problem.
It
wasn’t
one
decision
was
a
collective
decision
of
several
people
looking
back.
I can’t
remember
really
who
broached
it
with
Clitheroe
Kate
so
we
had
Crackers
Where
was
crackers?
Crackers
was
above
Jazzy
Kex
Victoria
Street,
On
Victoria
Street.
Yeah
little
building
scruffy
falling to
pieces
inside
but
because
of
the
night
club
scene
downstairs
there
were
a bar
there
and
it
was
it
was
a
quite
a
good
vibe
even
before
you
went
in and
up
there
because
you’re
going
through
a
music-based
room
warm
friendly
people
to
a
room
almost
like
a
hall
upstairs
if
you
will
and
yeah,
we
got
that
moving
and
first
night
completely
full
we had
about
five
six
weeks
of that
and
then
it
progressed
from
there
in
a
way
because
we
were
told
we
couldn’t
have
it
anymore
so
from
not
being
able
to
have
it
anymore
it
was
kind
of
brick
wall
and
then
I
was
in
the
gym
1
day.
1
of
the
lads
who
was
a doorman
of
a
club
called
the
Sett
End
or
…
Red
Parrot
said
I
explained
the
situation
to
him
and
he
said
listen.
come
on
and
see
the
owner
of
it.
There’s
nobody
going
in
there.
You
can
have
it
for
anything.
He’ll
let
you
do
whatever
you
want
so
I rang
Tommy
up
and
Tommy
and I
then
got
a
taxi
up
there
had
a
quick
word
with
them.
And they went
yeah,
and
that
was
it
it was
solved
we
could
have
had
anything
we
wanted
in
there.
All
I
wanted
was
money
going
behind
the
bar
and
then
it
was
boom
It
just
from
the
first
weekend
being
two-thirds
full
the
second
week.
I
mean
completely
full
the
third
weekend
to
2
3
thousand
people
outside
in
cars
wanting
to
get
into
the
property
and
then
after
the
Sett
End
we
needed
a party
we
need
a
party
after
it
and
it
was
just
Blackburn
Milltown
post
industrial
buildings
empty
everywhere
and
we
thought
right
okay
after
the
disappointments
of
Manchester
not
being
able
to
provide
us
with
an
after
party
then
we
will
and
we
provided
our own
and
moved
on
from
there
bigger
buildings
better
buildings
of
course,
we
made
sure
that
they
were
all
safe.
No
structural
problems,
no
problems
with the
integrity
of
anything.
When
you
when
you
moved
from
when
you
moved
from
you
basically
set up
your
own
club night
and
now
you
have the
same
problem
you had
at
Hacienda
your club night
finishes
and
you
want
to
Yeah
want
more
is
to
move
on?
What
year
did
so
what
year
was
it
roughly
when
it
started
you
were
leaving
the
Hacienda
and
setting
up
Crackers
what year
was it?
Hacienda
was 87
Right
It were
87
moving
it’s
way
through
to
89
it was
about
early
89
the
Cracker
thing
ended
because
it
it
was
an
abrupt
end
because
a
woman
that
who
who
actually
owned
the
building
basically
when
I’m
not
having
that
devil
music
played
in
any
of
my
establishment
should
that
were
it we’re
out
and
Clitheroe
Kate
who
rented
the
building
off
Margaret
or
Margaret
said
you
either
get
rid
of
them
or
I’ll
get
rid
of
you.
So
that
was
basically
the
end
of
the
Crackers
era
and
then
you
you
put
at the
Sett
End
at
the
Red
Parrot
Yeah,
and
then
the
parties
are
getting
bigger
and
bigger.
Yeah.
What
are your
best
memories
of
those
times?
…
…
it
was
all
one
big
memory
you
couldn’t
I
couldn’t
every
weekend
it
just
got
better
and
better
and
better
you
could
never
turn
around
after
one
of
them
and
say,
well
you
did
at
first
and
say,
that was
the
best
1
that
1
but
the
week
after
that
became
and that
was
the
best
1
They
were
all
the
best
1
after
each
1
the best
1
the
best
1
the
best
1
you
couldn’t
I
mean
people
I
met
I
met
some
fantastic
people
which
were
a
good
memory
because
I’m
friends
with
them
so
30
years
later
who in
the
walks
of
life
that
they
had
now
I
would
because
of
them
I
would
never
have
met
them
but
because
of
the
fact
that
we’re
all
in
it
together
and
we
were
all
in
it
together.
It
wasn’t
just
1
person
out
and
I
always
maintain
this
about
who
did
what
the
whole
scene
would
never
have
happened
if
it
wasn’t
for
everybody
that
was
there
anybody
that
prepared
to
get
the
car
clamped
tickets
double
parked
car
removed
it
with
every
single
person
that
turned
up
made
that
happen.
How
long did
it
going
before it
just
stops?
It
had
to
finish
at
some
point,
but
we
had
10
maybe
11
thousand
people
on
an
industrial
estate
and
it
began
to
become
logistically
a
nightmare.
I
mean
it
wasn’t
for
the
facts
of
the
police
even
though
I
do
believe
that
the
police
like
to
claim
credit
for
on
that
night.
That
was
the
final
1
It
was
the
final
1
because
it
was
a
decision
between
Tommy
and
a
few
other
people
that
it’s
enough
now,
it’s
enough
if
anybody
else
wants
to
continue
and
carry
on
they
can
do.
From
my
personal
point
of
view
Lomeshaye
industrial
estate
for
me
personally
was
the
last
1
because
it
was
just
too
it
began
to
become
like
a
full-time
job
9
to
5
you
go
to
bed
thinking
about
it.
You’d
wake
up
thinking
about
it
a
seven-day-a-week
14
15
hours
a
day
and
the
cat
and
mouse
thing
with
the
authorities.
It
just
wasn’t
me
I
didn’t
want
the
walking
up
the
street
and
seeing
a
police
car
behind
me
or
going
into
a
shop
and
coming
out
and
being
pointed
out
by
whomever
or
whatever
the
fun
left
So
you
got
dark
memories
around
that
time
then?
We’ve
asked
everybody
and
everyone’s
got
good
memories.
Do you
have
dark
memories
of
the
time?
I
think
the
darkest
memories
of
it
were
when
because
of
the
Manchester
element
the
I’m
not
going
to
use
gangsters.
I
don’t
believe
they
were
gangsters
in
the
true
word
of
gangsters
an
element
that
were
quite
violent
who
wrongly
or
rightly
I
got
involved
it
were
a joint
decision
but
mainly
me
because
of
an
element
in
Blackburn
but
wanted
what
they
thought
was
a
cash
cow
for
them
and
it
wasn’t
they
wanted
it
all
so
cut you’re nose
to
spite
your
face
in
a
dark
place
like
place or
whatever.
I
we
Tom and
I
got
the
I’m
trying
to
think
of
the
word
the
Salford
Mafia
we’ll
use
we
got
Salford
Mafia
as
our
protection
because
we
knew
that
they
had
the
weight
to
come
over
to
Blackburn
and
tell
the
people
in
Blackburn
who
wanted
to
take
what
was
ours
away
from
us
that
they
weren’t
doing
it.
So
they
were
dark
times
really
it
should
have
stopped
then
but
I
just
couldn’t
nobody
could
let
it
go.
We
just
couldn’t
walk
away
from
something
that
was
our
life
if
you
will.
We
just
couldn’t
leave
it
so
that
they
they
were
they
were
they
were
quite
dark
times
and
because
they
were
there
violence
starts
to
become
apparent
throughout
the
night
various
little
things
that
never
happened
until
they
came
because
they
believe
that
they
owned
the
right
to
do
1
thing
or
the
right
to
do
another
and
they
didn’t
so
that’s
when
hence
going
back
to
Lomeshaye
where
they
were
all
pointers
and
as
the
clock
was
getting
closer
to
12
o’clock.
It was
going
to
be
over
with
so
What
did
you
do
after
the
parties?
What happened
What happened
to
Tony
Kreft
after
the
parties
finished?
I
packed
a
bag
and
move
to
Holland
went
to
Holland
and
and
continue
through
their
party
scene
going
to
do
the
hate
the
word
rave
clubs
and
dance
night
clubs
because
they
were
they
were
brand-new
and
they
were
burgeoning
and
so
it
was
it
was
like
going
back
2
to
3
years
in
the
UK
because
they
were
lagged
behind
massively
but
was
just
unfolding
in
to
society
So
I
continued
with
that
and
just
left
Blackburn
because
they
I’d
had
enough.
What
I
really
love
about
what
we’re
all
doing
30
years
later
meeting
up
talking
and
sharing
these
stories
30
years
has
gone
like
that.
You
know,
I’m
interested
in
telling
the
stories
of
these
spaces
in
these
working-class
stories
from
a
couple
hundred
years.
Yeah
These
Mills
and
warehouse
that
sense
of
history
What
I
like
is
that
there’s
going
to
be
a
kid
or
a
researcher
or
someone
in
a
hundred
years
listening
to
you
all
telling
your
stories
not
reading
someone’s
book
or
finding
watching
someone
else’s
film
it
can
go
on
listen
to
you
lot
all of
you
and
everyone’s
got
a
different
tale
to
tell
but
you’ve
also
got
opportunity
to
talk
to
a
kid
from
Blackburn
in
hundred
years
about
Yeah
what you
were doing
what
would
you
say
to em?
Now
as
I’m
sat here
now to
somebody in
100
years
in
the
future.
I
wish
they
could
have
could
have
the
times
that
we
had
because
I
speak
to
children
of
today
and
they
all
want
it
they all
look
at
look
with
sad
eyes
and
regret
and
you
know
that
what
we
have
then
they are
never
going
to
have
now.
So
I
hope
that
in
one
hundred
years
time
does
the
ability
for
them
to
have
the
freedom
and
to
have
a
night
that
totally
belongs
to
them
Full Transcript:
How
did
you
get
involved?
What
was
the
old
Acid
House
thing?
I
woke
up
one
day
after
going
to
a
club
called
the
Hacienda
was
just
a
new
horizon
of just
I
want
this.
This
is
me.
This
is
what
I
class as
music
that
I’m
going
to
like
throughout
the
entirety
of
the
night
as
opposed
to
the
old
song
thrown
in
here
and
there
and
I
was
sold
I
was
it
was
me
it
was
you
could
have
put
my
name
on
it.
When
you
got
it
moving
you
got
involved
in
it.
What
are
the
what
are
the
starting
points?
If
you
go
take
us
from
the
Hacienda
to
Blackburn
how
did
it
start in
Blackburn?
Well,
basically
we were
a
group
of
people
we were
all
like
minded
who
who
had
all
been
going
to
the
Hacienda
and began
to
just
get
a
little
bit
disillusioned
with
the
2
o’clock
finish
because
at
2
o’clock
really
the
night
was
just
beginning
to
move
so at
2
o’clock
driving
back
and
then
wanting
more
coming
back
to
Blackburn
being
in
people’s
houses
playing
playing
some
music
and it
just
not
being
enough
and
you
wanted
that
more
more
feeling.
Well,
it
wasn’t
fulfilling
enough
basically.
Tell
me
about
the
earlier
organisational
stuff
then
where
did
you
start
doing
it
when
it
started,
you
know,
you’re
coming
back
from
the
Hacienda
where
you’re
you going
to?
Well,
we
had
a
little
club
called
Crackers
who
was
a
good
friend
of
basically
everybody
because
we
all
used
to
go
in
there
so
we
all
new
Clitheroe
Kate
on
a
quite
a
friendly
basis
of
simply
can we
use
upstairs
and
Kate
went
Yeah,
no
problem.
It
wasn’t
one
decision
was
a
collective
decision
of
several
people
looking
back.
I can’t
remember
really
who
broached
it
with
Clitheroe
Kate
so
we
had
Crackers
Where
was
crackers?
Crackers
was
above
Jazzy
Kex
Victoria
Street,
On
Victoria
Street.
Yeah
little
building
scruffy
falling to
pieces
inside
but
because
of
the
night
club
scene
downstairs
there
were
a bar
there
and
it
was
it
was
a
quite
a
good
vibe
even
before
you
went
in and
up
there
because
you’re
going
through
a
music-based
room
warm
friendly
people
to
a
room
almost
like
a
hall
upstairs
if
you
will
and
yeah,
we
got
that
moving
and
first
night
completely
full
we had
about
five
six
weeks
of that
and
then
it
progressed
from
there
in
a
way
because
we
were
told
we
couldn’t
have
it
anymore
so
from
not
being
able
to
have
it
anymore
it
was
kind
of
brick
wall
and
then
I
was
in
the
gym
1
day.
1
of
the
lads
who
was
a doorman
of
a
club
called
the
Sett
End
or
…
Red
Parrot
said
I
explained
the
situation
to
him
and
he
said
listen.
come
on
and
see
the
owner
of
it.
There’s
nobody
going
in
there.
You
can
have
it
for
anything.
He’ll
let
you
do
whatever
you
want
so
I rang
Tommy
up
and
Tommy
and I
then
got
a
taxi
up
there
had
a
quick
word
with
them.
And they went
yeah,
and
that
was
it
it was
solved
we
could
have
had
anything
we
wanted
in
there.
All
I
wanted
was
money
going
behind
the
bar
and
then
it
was
boom
It
just
from
the
first
weekend
being
two-thirds
full
the
second
week.
I
mean
completely
full
the
third
weekend
to
2
3
thousand
people
outside
in
cars
wanting
to
get
into
the
property
and
then
after
the
Sett
End
we
needed
a party
we
need
a
party
after
it
and
it
was
just
Blackburn
Milltown
post
industrial
buildings
empty
everywhere
and
we
thought
right
okay
after
the
disappointments
of
Manchester
not
being
able
to
provide
us
with
an
after
party
then
we
will
and
we
provided
our own
and
moved
on
from
there
bigger
buildings
better
buildings
of
course,
we
made
sure
that
they
were
all
safe.
No
structural
problems,
no
problems
with the
integrity
of
anything.
When
you
when
you
moved
from
when
you
moved
from
you
basically
set up
your
own
club night
and
now
you
have the
same
problem
you had
at
Hacienda
your club night
finishes
and
you
want
to
Yeah
want
more
is
to
move
on?
What
year
did
so
what
year
was
it
roughly
when
it
started
you
were
leaving
the
Hacienda
and
setting
up
Crackers
what year
was it?
Hacienda
was 87
Right
It were
87
moving
it’s
way
through
to
89
it was
about
early
89
the
Cracker
thing
ended
because
it
it
was
an
abrupt
end
because
a
woman
that
who
who
actually
owned
the
building
basically
when
I’m
not
having
that
devil
music
played
in
any
of
my
establishment
should
that
were
it we’re
out
and
Clitheroe
Kate
who
rented
the
building
off
Margaret
or
Margaret
said
you
either
get
rid
of
them
or
I’ll
get
rid
of
you.
So
that
was
basically
the
end
of
the
Crackers
era
and
then
you
you
put
at the
Sett
End
at
the
Red
Parrot
Yeah,
and
then
the
parties
are
getting
bigger
and
bigger.
Yeah.
What
are your
best
memories
of
those
times?
…
…
it
was
all
one
big
memory
you
couldn’t
I
couldn’t
every
weekend
it
just
got
better
and
better
and
better
you
could
never
turn
around
after
one
of
them
and
say,
well
you
did
at
first
and
say,
that was
the
best
1
that
1
but
the
week
after
that
became
and that
was
the
best
1
They
were
all
the
best
1
after
each
1
the best
1
the
best
1
the
best
1
you
couldn’t
I
mean
people
I
met
I
met
some
fantastic
people
which
were
a
good
memory
because
I’m
friends
with
them
so
30
years
later
who in
the
walks
of
life
that
they
had
now
I
would
because
of
them
I
would
never
have
met
them
but
because
of
the
fact
that
we’re
all
in
it
together
and
we
were
all
in
it
together.
It
wasn’t
just
1
person
out
and
I
always
maintain
this
about
who
did
what
the
whole
scene
would
never
have
happened
if
it
wasn’t
for
everybody
that
was
there
anybody
that
prepared
to
get
the
car
clamped
tickets
double
parked
car
removed
it
with
every
single
person
that
turned
up
made
that
happen.
How
long did
it
going
before it
just
stops?
It
had
to
finish
at
some
point,
but
we
had
10
maybe
11
thousand
people
on
an
industrial
estate
and
it
began
to
become
logistically
a
nightmare.
I
mean
it
wasn’t
for
the
facts
of
the
police
even
though
I
do
believe
that
the
police
like
to
claim
credit
for
on
that
night.
That
was
the
final
1
It
was
the
final
1
because
it
was
a
decision
between
Tommy
and
a
few
other
people
that
it’s
enough
now,
it’s
enough
if
anybody
else
wants
to
continue
and
carry
on
they
can
do.
From
my
personal
point
of
view
Lomeshaye
industrial
estate
for
me
personally
was
the
last
1
because
it
was
just
too
it
began
to
become
like
a
full-time
job
9
to
5
you
go
to
bed
thinking
about
it.
You’d
wake
up
thinking
about
it
a
seven-day-a-week
14
15
hours
a
day
and
the
cat
and
mouse
thing
with
the
authorities.
It
just
wasn’t
me
I
didn’t
want
the
walking
up
the
street
and
seeing
a
police
car
behind
me
or
going
into
a
shop
and
coming
out
and
being
pointed
out
by
whomever
or
whatever
the
fun
left
So
you
got
dark
memories
around
that
time
then?
We’ve
asked
everybody
and
everyone’s
got
good
memories.
Do you
have
dark
memories
of
the
time?
I
think
the
darkest
memories
of
it
were
when
because
of
the
Manchester
element
the
I’m
not
going
to
use
gangsters.
I
don’t
believe
they
were
gangsters
in
the
true
word
of
gangsters
an
element
that
were
quite
violent
who
wrongly
or
rightly
I
got
involved
it
were
a joint
decision
but
mainly
me
because
of
an
element
in
Blackburn
but
wanted
what
they
thought
was
a
cash
cow
for
them
and
it
wasn’t
they
wanted
it
all
so
cut you’re nose
to
spite
your
face
in
a
dark
place
like
place or
whatever.
I
we
Tom and
I
got
the
I’m
trying
to
think
of
the
word
the
Salford
Mafia
we’ll
use
we
got
Salford
Mafia
as
our
protection
because
we
knew
that
they
had
the
weight
to
come
over
to
Blackburn
and
tell
the
people
in
Blackburn
who
wanted
to
take
what
was
ours
away
from
us
that
they
weren’t
doing
it.
So
they
were
dark
times
really
it
should
have
stopped
then
but
I
just
couldn’t
nobody
could
let
it
go.
We
just
couldn’t
walk
away
from
something
that
was
our
life
if
you
will.
We
just
couldn’t
leave
it
so
that
they
they
were
they
were
they
were
quite
dark
times
and
because
they
were
there
violence
starts
to
become
apparent
throughout
the
night
various
little
things
that
never
happened
until
they
came
because
they
believe
that
they
owned
the
right
to
do
1
thing
or
the
right
to
do
another
and
they
didn’t
so
that’s
when
hence
going
back
to
Lomeshaye
where
they
were
all
pointers
and
as
the
clock
was
getting
closer
to
12
o’clock.
It was
going
to
be
over
with
so
What
did
you
do
after
the
parties?
What happened
What happened
to
Tony
Kreft
after
the
parties
finished?
I
packed
a
bag
and
move
to
Holland
went
to
Holland
and
and
continue
through
their
party
scene
going
to
do
the
hate
the
word
rave
clubs
and
dance
night
clubs
because
they
were
they
were
brand-new
and
they
were
burgeoning
and
so
it
was
it
was
like
going
back
2
to
3
years
in
the
UK
because
they
were
lagged
behind
massively
but
was
just
unfolding
in
to
society
So
I
continued
with
that
and
just
left
Blackburn
because
they
I’d
had
enough.
What
I
really
love
about
what
we’re
all
doing
30
years
later
meeting
up
talking
and
sharing
these
stories
30
years
has
gone
like
that.
You
know,
I’m
interested
in
telling
the
stories
of
these
spaces
in
these
working-class
stories
from
a
couple
hundred
years.
Yeah
These
Mills
and
warehouse
that
sense
of
history
What
I
like
is
that
there’s
going
to
be
a
kid
or
a
researcher
or
someone
in
a
hundred
years
listening
to
you
all
telling
your
stories
not
reading
someone’s
book
or
finding
watching
someone
else’s
film
it
can
go
on
listen
to
you
lot
all of
you
and
everyone’s
got
a
different
tale
to
tell
but
you’ve
also
got
opportunity
to
talk
to
a
kid
from
Blackburn
in
hundred
years
about
Yeah
what you
were doing
what
would
you
say
to em?
Now
as
I’m
sat here
now to
somebody in
100
years
in
the
future.
I
wish
they
could
have
could
have
the
times
that
we
had
because
I
speak
to
children
of
today
and
they
all
want
it
they all
look
at
look
with
sad
eyes
and
regret
and
you
know
that
what
we
have
then
they are
never
going
to
have
now.
So
I
hope
that
in
one
hundred
years
time
does
the
ability
for
them
to
have
the
freedom
and
to
have
a
night
that
totally
belongs
to
them
Tracey Getting Involved
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So
Tracey,
what
is
your
connection
with
the
Blackburn
Acid
House
raves
from
30
years
ago.
I
started
going
with
my
friends,
a group
of
girls.
And
then
I
met
a
guy
called
Tony
who I
ended
up
going
out
with
and
he
was
one
of
the
main
organisers…
during
the
week…
me
and
Tony
would
go
out
looking
for
warehouses
and
come
Saturday
night…
when
I
was
one
of
the
ones
who
knew
where
the
warehouse
was
i’d be
one
of
the
convoy
leaders.
Whereas
…
whereas
previously
we
we’d have
gone
to
say
The
Cav,
Peppermint
Place
and
there’d
have
been
fights
men
would
have
been
hitting
on
you,
it
was
a
total
different
environment.
Nobody
ever
hit
on
you.
You
could
wear
what
you
wanted.
You
didn’t
have
to
be
dressed
up.
There
wasn’t
people
who
didn’t
get
in
because
the
bouncer
said
it’s
not
your
own
night…
It
was
just
a
feeling
of…
a
new
way…
a
new
way
of
life
and
it
was
just
brilliant.
And
erm..
how
do
you
think
it
changed
Blackburn?
oh it changed
Blackburn
totally
a
lot
of
the
guys
were
football
hooligans
weren’t
they?
And
it
changed
them
and
also
like….
they
learnt
to
dance,
and
they
learnt
to
get…
on
whereas
previously…
Well,
alot…
a
few
of
them
still
didn’t
get
on.
But
yeah,
everybody
seemed
to
become
friends
with
people
all
over…
race,
whatever
it
didn’t
matter
anymore.
Whereas
I
think
there had
been
definitely
some
racism
previously
and
definitely
if
anybody
from
out
of
town
came
and
they
didn’t
get
on
previously
they’d
have
fought
in the
nightclub
wouldn’t
they?
Yeah,
there
was..
there
was
always
a
lot of
fights..
people
coming
from
out
of
town.
Yeah,
and
it
just
changed
all
that
completely
but
Blackburn
at
the
time
…
apart
from…
apart
from
the
fights.
It
was
really
booming
wasn’t
it…?
It
was
it was
a
big
night
life
it had
big
names…
big
nights
out
wasn’t
it?
But
it’s…
…
….
I
think
we
all
wanted
something
different
than…
….
we
didn’t
want
to…
I’m
a
horse
girl.
I
spent
my
life
in
wellies
…
I
didn’t
want
to
be
getting
dressed
up
to
have
to
go out.
I
loved
going
out
in
my
jeans.
That’s
me.
So
you
could
go
out
and
actually
just
be
yourself.
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So
Tracey,
what
is
your
connection
with
the
Blackburn
Acid
House
raves
from
30
years
ago.
I
started
going
with
my
friends,
a group
of
girls.
And
then
I
met
a
guy
called
Tony
who I
ended
up
going
out
with
and
he
was
one
of
the
main
organisers…
during
the
week…
me
and
Tony
would
go
out
looking
for
warehouses
and
come
Saturday
night…
when
I
was
one
of
the
ones
who
knew
where
the
warehouse
was
i’d be
one
of
the
convoy
leaders.
Whereas
…
whereas
previously
we
we’d have
gone
to
say
The
Cav,
Peppermint
Place
and
there’d
have
been
fights
men
would
have
been
hitting
on
you,
it
was
a
total
different
environment.
Nobody
ever
hit
on
you.
You
could
wear
what
you
wanted.
You
didn’t
have
to
be
dressed
up.
There
wasn’t
people
who
didn’t
get
in
because
the
bouncer
said
it’s
not
your
own
night…
It
was
just
a
feeling
of…
a
new
way…
a
new
way
of
life
and
it
was
just
brilliant.
And
erm..
how
do
you
think
it
changed
Blackburn?
oh it changed
Blackburn
totally
a
lot
of
the
guys
were
football
hooligans
weren’t
they?
And
it
changed
them
and
also
like….
they
learnt
to
dance,
and
they
learnt
to
get…
on
whereas
previously…
Well,
alot…
a
few
of
them
still
didn’t
get
on.
But
yeah,
everybody
seemed
to
become
friends
with
people
all
over…
race,
whatever
it
didn’t
matter
anymore.
Whereas
I
think
there had
been
definitely
some
racism
previously
and
definitely
if
anybody
from
out
of
town
came
and
they
didn’t
get
on
previously
they’d
have
fought
in the
nightclub
wouldn’t
they?
Yeah,
there
was..
there
was
always
a
lot of
fights..
people
coming
from
out
of
town.
Yeah,
and
it
just
changed
all
that
completely
but
Blackburn
at
the
time
…
apart
from…
apart
from
the
fights.
It
was
really
booming
wasn’t
it…?
It
was
it was
a
big
night
life
it had
big
names…
big
nights
out
wasn’t
it?
But
it’s…
…
….
I
think
we
all
wanted
something
different
than…
….
we
didn’t
want
to…
I’m
a
horse
girl.
I
spent
my
life
in
wellies
…
I
didn’t
want
to
be
getting
dressed
up
to
have
to
go out.
I
loved
going
out
in
my
jeans.
That’s
me.
So
you
could
go
out
and
actually
just
be
yourself.