Julie Getting Involved

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My
name
is
Julie.
I
remember
going
to
I
think
it
was
Mr
Gee’s
and
remember
a
DJ
in
there
playing
Helyom
Halib
by
Cappella
and
I
thought
I
like
this…
this is
great
and
then
I
don’t
know
how
but
we
ended
up
from
there
going
to
Crackers
upstairs
went
there
a
couple
of
times
loved
it
really
hot,
sweaty,
dripping
wet
through
from
the
ceiling
steamy
hot
place
boiling
but
really
good,
and
then
but
we
only
went
twice
because
then
I
think
it
moved
it
Sett
End
from
then
and
then
that’s
when
it
all
kind
of
began
for
me
and
my
friend
at
the
time.
What
was
that…
was
it…
we
went
to
Sett
End
and
then
our
first
warehouse
party
was
at
it
was
in
Lower
Darwen
I
remember
it
was
the…
kind
of
went
in…
you
went
in…
think
that
it
was
very
narrow
concrete
corridors
and
they
will
seem
to
be
candles
all
the
way
along
and
I’ll never
forget
because
it
was
the
very
first
one
I
went
to
and
I’d
only
been
drinking
a…
a
bit
of
vodka
and
a
coke
and
that’s
all
remember…
all
these
candles
going
all
the
way
along…
it
was
very
dark
and
then
we
come
out
and
it
was
a
big
warehouse,
obviously
it
was
pitch
black
so
you
can’t
really
see
much…
little
light…
with
like
tiny
lights
little
strobes
and
things
up
at
the
top
and
I
think
Charles
B
Lack
of
Love
played
and
it
was
and
E-Zee
Possé
Everything
Starts
with
an
E
and
me and
my
friend
lots
of
each
other
we
were
like
wow.
What
is
this?
This
is
brilliant
that
you
know,
it
blew
our
minds
blew
our
minds
and
the
atmosphere
and
everything
were
it
were
brilliant
and
I
remember
then
it
got
busted
by
police….
I
remember
the…
they
beat
the
doors
down
with
an
axe
or
something
and
I heard
somebody
say
everybody
out
back.
We
all
had
to
push
We
all
got
kind
of
a
bit
like
reminded
me
of
Hillsborough
a bit…
it
was
a
bit
like
everybody
got
pushed
to
the
front
door
I felt
I
thought
I
were
gonna
get
crushed
and
I
think
I
don’t
know
whether
they
bashed
the
doors
down
with
an
axe
or
something.
They
burst
in
the
had
riot
shields
helmets
Alsatian
dogs
and
they
were
like
EVERYBODY
OUT
and
I’m
sure
that’s
the
party
that
Tony
Kreft
shouted
I
remember him
shouting…
The
bastards
have
took
the
decks.
But
this
was
like…
this
was
like
a
few
hours
later
so
it’s
been
going
for
quite
some
time
I
remember
looking
up
and
it
was…
I’m
sure
it
was
like
a
zig…
you
know,
those
really
old
warehouses
where
factories
where
they had
like
a
glass
ceiling
that
was
Yeah like a zigzag
zigzag-ceiling
and
there
were
somebody
crawling
across
the
roof
I don’t
know if
that were
police
looking
to
see
how
many
people
were
in
but
I
could
see…
see
somebody
up
there
before
that…
before
they
brought
the
doors
down
and
they
just
might
let
EVERYBODY
OUT
AND
obviously
we’ve
got
kicked
out
and
we
thought
wow,
that
would
be
brilliant
would
have
to
do
that
again…
and
that
and
that
were
it
that
kinda did it
for
us.
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Julie
Getting involved. (3:06 mins)
Julie
Bad memories. (1:25 mins)

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My
name
is
Julie.
I
remember
going
to
I
think
it
was
Mr
Gee’s
and
remember
a
DJ
in
there
playing
Helyom
Halib
by
Cappella
and
I
thought
I
like
this…
this is
great
and
then
I
don’t
know
how
but
we
ended
up
from
there
going
to
Crackers
upstairs
went
there
a
couple
of
times
loved
it
really
hot,
sweaty,
dripping
wet
through
from
the
ceiling
steamy
hot
place
boiling
but
really
good,
and
then
but
we
only
went
twice
because
then
I
think
it
moved
it
Sett
End
from
then
and
then
that’s
when
it
all
kind
of
began
for
me
and
my
friend
at
the
time.
What
was
that…
was
it…
we
went
to
Sett
End
and
then
our
first
warehouse
party
was
at
it
was
in
Lower
Darwen
I
remember
it
was
the…
kind
of
went
in…
you
went
in…
think
that
it
was
very
narrow
concrete
corridors
and
they
will
seem
to
be
candles
all
the
way
along
and
I’ll never
forget
because
it
was
the
very
first
one
I
went
to
and
I’d
only
been
drinking
a…
a
bit
of
vodka
and
a
coke
and
that’s
all
remember…
all
these
candles
going
all
the
way
along…
it
was
very
dark
and
then
we
come
out
and
it
was
a
big
warehouse,
obviously
it
was
pitch
black
so
you
can’t
really
see
much…
little
light…
with
like
tiny
lights
little
strobes
and
things
up
at
the
top
and
I
think
Charles
B
Lack
of
Love
played
and
it
was
and
E-Zee
Possé
Everything
Starts
with
an
E
and
me and
my
friend
lots
of
each
other
we
were
like
wow.
What
is
this?
This
is
brilliant
that
you
know,
it
blew
our
minds
blew
our
minds
and
the
atmosphere
and
everything
were
it
were
brilliant
and
I
remember
then
it
got
busted
by
police….
I
remember
the…
they
beat
the
doors
down
with
an
axe
or
something
and
I heard
somebody
say
everybody
out
back.
We
all
had
to
push
We
all
got
kind
of
a
bit
like
reminded
me
of
Hillsborough
a bit…
it
was
a
bit
like
everybody
got
pushed
to
the
front
door
I felt
I
thought
I
were
gonna
get
crushed
and
I
think
I
don’t
know
whether
they
bashed
the
doors
down
with
an
axe
or
something.
They
burst
in
the
had
riot
shields
helmets
Alsatian
dogs
and
they
were
like
EVERYBODY
OUT
and
I’m
sure
that’s
the
party
that
Tony
Kreft
shouted
I
remember him
shouting…
The
bastards
have
took
the
decks.
But
this
was
like…
this
was
like
a
few
hours
later
so
it’s
been
going
for
quite
some
time
I
remember
looking
up
and
it
was…
I’m
sure
it
was
like
a
zig…
you
know,
those
really
old
warehouses
where
factories
where
they had
like
a
glass
ceiling
that
was
Yeah like a zigzag
zigzag-ceiling
and
there
were
somebody
crawling
across
the
roof
I don’t
know if
that were
police
looking
to
see
how
many
people
were
in
but
I
could
see…
see
somebody
up
there
before
that…
before
they
brought
the
doors
down
and
they
just
might
let
EVERYBODY
OUT
AND
obviously
we’ve
got
kicked
out
and
we
thought
wow,
that
would
be
brilliant
would
have
to
do
that
again…
and
that
and
that
were
it
that
kinda did it
for
us.

Julie Bad Memories

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We
once
got
led
up a
garden
path…
I
think
it
was…
it
must
have
been
a
false
convoy
and we
ended
up
I
don’t
know
if
it
would
Tockholes
or
somewhere.
I
don’t
know
we
ended
down
this
dirt
track
lots
of
us
and
then
the
police
blocked
off
1
end
and
then
they
blocked
off
the
other
end
and
they
decided
to
search
all
the
cars
and
vans…
and
this
lad
that
was
in
the
van
had dropped
some
weed
on
the
floor
and
it
was
like…
a
quite
a
big
chunk
of
weed
on
the
floor.
So
I’m
hiding
the
back
of
this
van
the
door
opens
and
I’m
like
this
and
there’s
a
policeman
there
and
I’m
like…
oh
hello
kind
of
thing.
Anyway,
they
got
the
sniffer
dog
and
I’m
thinking
oh
my
God
sniffer
dog…
sniffer
dog
went
in
it
and
never
found
it.
I
don’t
know
how
it
never
found
it,
but
it
never
found
it
because
it
was
a
lot
of
electrical
equipment
in
the
back
wires
it
were
full
of
stuff
that
it
wasn’t
organised.
it
was
a
bit
organised
chaos.
It
was
so…
that’s
probably
why
it
didn’t
find
it…
but
I
was
like
so…
so
relieved
and
then
this
policeman
said
like
what
are
you
doing
in…
you
know
the back of
he said…
you
know,
you
shouldn’t
really
be
in
the
back
of
here
because
you’re
not…
it’s
not
a
passenger
vehicle,
you
shouldn’t
really
be
in
the
back
of
here
and
I
said,
well,
I’ve
no
way
of
getting
home
now
and
he
said
well,
go
on
we’ll
we’ll
let
you
off
this
time.
He
said
but
in
future
don’t
get
in
the
back
of
that
van
and
then
obviously,
the
week
after
I
got
back
in
the
back
of
the
van.
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Julie
Bad memories. (1:25 mins)
Julie
Good memories part 1. (1:27 mins)

Full Transcript:

We
once
got
led
up a
garden
path…
I
think
it
was…
it
must
have
been
a
false
convoy
and we
ended
up
I
don’t
know
if
it
would
Tockholes
or
somewhere.
I
don’t
know
we
ended
down
this
dirt
track
lots
of
us
and
then
the
police
blocked
off
1
end
and
then
they
blocked
off
the
other
end
and
they
decided
to
search
all
the
cars
and
vans…
and
this
lad
that
was
in
the
van
had dropped
some
weed
on
the
floor
and
it
was
like…
a
quite
a
big
chunk
of
weed
on
the
floor.
So
I’m
hiding
the
back
of
this
van
the
door
opens
and
I’m
like
this
and
there’s
a
policeman
there
and
I’m
like…
oh
hello
kind
of
thing.
Anyway,
they
got
the
sniffer
dog
and
I’m
thinking
oh
my
God
sniffer
dog…
sniffer
dog
went
in
it
and
never
found
it.
I
don’t
know
how
it
never
found
it,
but
it
never
found
it
because
it
was
a
lot
of
electrical
equipment
in
the
back
wires
it
were
full
of
stuff
that
it
wasn’t
organised.
it
was
a
bit
organised
chaos.
It
was
so…
that’s
probably
why
it
didn’t
find
it…
but
I
was
like
so…
so
relieved
and
then
this
policeman
said
like
what
are
you
doing
in…
you
know
the back of
he said…
you
know,
you
shouldn’t
really
be
in
the
back
of
here
because
you’re
not…
it’s
not
a
passenger
vehicle,
you
shouldn’t
really
be
in
the
back
of
here
and
I
said,
well,
I’ve
no
way
of
getting
home
now
and
he
said
well,
go
on
we’ll
we’ll
let
you
off
this
time.
He
said
but
in
future
don’t
get
in
the
back
of
that
van
and
then
obviously,
the
week
after
I
got
back
in
the
back
of
the
van.

Julie Good Memories Part 1

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The
best
part
about
it
was
I
think
is
that
at one
time
Blackburn
was
a
bit
divided
there
were
lots
of
different
areas
in
Blackburn
that
were
all
divided
you
had
Mill
Hill.
ye had,
Infirmary
area.
ye’ had,
Queens
Park
area.
ye’ had,
Blackburn
Youth
you had
all
these
different
groups
and
they
used
to
be
a
bit
of
trouble
as
well.
I
used
to go to
King
George’s Hall
on
a
Monday
night
and
there
Monday night
Madness…
used
to
be
chairs
flying
across
the
room
and
things
like
that.
I remember
do
you
know
that
and
then
that
just
all
stopped
there
were
no,
trouble
everybody
knew
everybody
if
you
knew
so
if
you
went
to
a
party
and
it
wasn’t
the
right
1
or
somet’
you
knew
it
were
the
right
1
because
there
wasn’t
anybody
there
you
that,
you
know,
you
didn’t
know
so
if
you
were
at
somewhere
where you
didn’t
know
anybody
you
where
at the
wrong
1
because
you
know
everybody
every
time
that’s
one
of
my
fondest
memories
really
is
and
and
just
the
atmosphere
of…
of
being
in
that…
in
a
warehouse
the
sound
the
mood
the…
it’s…
I
can
still
kind
of
feel
that
and
remember
that
all
this
time
that
you…
you
can…
and
you
can
never
replace
it.
You
can
never
recreate
it.
It’s
gone
it
happened
and
it
was
just
the
whole
the
music,
you
know,
and
if
anybody
you
know,
anybody
would
do
anything
for
you…
if
you
need
a
lift
somewhere
or
it
would
be
like
I
suppose it were
like
the hip…
60s
hippies
like
bit
of
peace
and
love
kind
of
thing
and
that’s
what
it
was.
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Julie
Good memories part 1. (1:27 mins)
Julie
Good memories part 2. (30 secs)

Full Transcript:

The
best
part
about
it
was
I
think
is
that
at one
time
Blackburn
was
a
bit
divided
there
were
lots
of
different
areas
in
Blackburn
that
were
all
divided
you
had
Mill
Hill.
ye had,
Infirmary
area.
ye’ had,
Queens
Park
area.
ye’ had,
Blackburn
Youth
you had
all
these
different
groups
and
they
used
to
be
a
bit
of
trouble
as
well.
I
used
to go to
King
George’s Hall
on
a
Monday
night
and
there
Monday night
Madness…
used
to
be
chairs
flying
across
the
room
and
things
like
that.
I remember
do
you
know
that
and
then
that
just
all
stopped
there
were
no,
trouble
everybody
knew
everybody
if
you
knew
so
if
you
went
to
a
party
and
it
wasn’t
the
right
1
or
somet’
you
knew
it
were
the
right
1
because
there
wasn’t
anybody
there
you
that,
you
know,
you
didn’t
know
so
if
you
were
at
somewhere
where you
didn’t
know
anybody
you
where
at the
wrong
1
because
you
know
everybody
every
time
that’s
one
of
my
fondest
memories
really
is
and
and
just
the
atmosphere
of…
of
being
in
that…
in
a
warehouse
the
sound
the
mood
the…
it’s…
I
can
still
kind
of
feel
that
and
remember
that
all
this
time
that
you…
you
can…
and
you
can
never
replace
it.
You
can
never
recreate
it.
It’s
gone
it
happened
and
it
was
just
the
whole
the
music,
you
know,
and
if
anybody
you
know,
anybody
would
do
anything
for
you…
if
you
need
a
lift
somewhere
or
it
would
be
like
I
suppose it were
like
the hip…
60s
hippies
like
bit
of
peace
and
love
kind
of
thing
and
that’s
what
it
was.

Julie Good Memories Part 2

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I liked
Ewood
Mill
I’ll always
remember
because
there
were
2
there
one
week
after
the other
and
Ste
well,
I
don’t
know…
Ste
who were
talking
about
he
dressed
in
a
red
devil
suit
I
remember
him
New
year
Eve
he
had
a
big
red
devil
suit
on…
he
must
have
hired
it
a
big
furry
it
was
absolutely
roasting,
sweating
like
I don’t
know
what
with
this
big
red
devil
suit
on
New
Years
Eve
he
must’ve
decided
to
dress
up
like
that
were
fond
memories
and
jumping
in
back
of
his
van.
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Good memories part 2. (30 secs)
Julie
Good memories part 3. (7:39 mins)

Full Transcript:

I liked
Ewood
Mill
I’ll always
remember
because
there
were
2
there
one
week
after
the other
and
Ste
well,
I
don’t
know…
Ste
who were
talking
about
he
dressed
in
a
red
devil
suit
I
remember
him
New
year
Eve
he
had
a
big
red
devil
suit
on…
he
must
have
hired
it
a
big
furry
it
was
absolutely
roasting,
sweating
like
I don’t
know
what
with
this
big
red
devil
suit
on
New
Years
Eve
he
must’ve
decided
to
dress
up
like
that
were
fond
memories
and
jumping
in
back
of
his
van.

Julie Good Memories Part 3

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So
well
it
were
like
89
I
was
like
17
going
on
18,
Right
and
you
just
said
you’re
on
a
Y.T.S
Yeah
Which
was
27
pound
a
week.
Yeah,
And
I
think
it
went
up
to
35
if
you
stayed
on
for
a
second
year
didn’t
it?
Yeah
Or something like that
Yeah
Because
I
was
doing
the
same
and
yeah,
well,
what
was…
what
was
Blackburn
like
at
the
time
you’ve
got…
if
you’re
on
27
a
week
it’s
the
80s
in
Blackburn.
Oh,
yeah
Blackburn
was
busy
wasn’t
it
but
what
else
would
well,
what
did
you
think
it…
was
it…
was
it…
a
poor
town?
Oh
yeah.
Or
was it
an okay
town?
I
mean
obviously
it
had
a
really
good
night
life
always
had
a
good
reputation
of
a
really
good
night
life
so
even
before
the
parties
came,
it
was
pub
crawls
nightclubs
and there
were a
few
nightclubs
to
go
to
weren’t there.
There
were
Ce La Vie
there
were
Mr G’s
there
were
Peppermint Place
which
changed
its
name
a
few
times
And it was
there
was
Manhattan
Heights
as
well
which were
brilliant
that
was
another.
Yeah
good…
really
good
place
to
go.
And
it
was
busy
Thursday
Friday
Saturday.
Yeah
I were
out
nearly
every
night
apart from
bar
one.
I were
out
nearly
every
night
bar
one.
Bar
1?
Bar
one…
night
you
know.
Oh right.
Sorry.
I
know…
I
know.
Yeah
probably
1
night
a week
I wouldn’t
go
out
but
most of
the time
we
did
and
we
just
bought
a little bottles
of
vodka
and
a
coke
and
Yeah
on
27
a
week
you could
do it
Yeah,
that’s
how
you
did
it
you
drank
before
you
went
out
and
then
I
think
Mr G’s
had
like
doubles
for
a
pound
and..
yeah.
Things
like
that
and
yeah,
we used
to get
our
clothes off
market
fer a
fiver
for
this
and
a
fiver for
that
and
I
worked
on an
ice
cream
van
as well
at
weekend.
You
worked
on
an
ice-cream
van?
At
weekend.
Wow.
Yeah,
Where abouts
just
in
Blackburn?
Yeah,
with…
no
till…
no
nothing
just
all
mental
maths
and
in ye’ head.
No
way
that’s
fantastic.
I
used to
work on that
and go
parties
and
then
day
after
go
home
at
10
o’clock
at
morning
and
then
get
up
at
12
and
then
go
on
ice
cream
van
at
1…
have
a
couple
of
hours
sleep
and
then
go out.
No way
do a
tour
of
Blackburn.
Yeah
That’s
amazing…
wow.
I
don’t
know
how
I
did
it.
But
you
had
to…
but
you
have
to
do
didn’t
you…
which was?
Well
that’s
it
that
you
know,
that’s
how
you
pay
for
things though
innit
because
I used
to
buy
records
every
week
12-inch
singles
every
week.
I
mean
some
of
them
back
then
like
white
labels
were like
15
quid
well
that
I
mean
15
quid
now
is
a
lot
of
money
but back
then
it
was
a
Yeah
it
was
really
expensive
wasn’t
it.
Well
I didn’t
buy
15
one
every week
week
you
know,
just
the
odd…
So
why
didn’t
become
a
DJ?
I
don’t
know
Well
probably
because
you
weren’t
allowed.
Probably
not.
But
it’s
interesting
I’ve
not
met
anybody
else
who
said…
Yeah,
every week
I bought..
said
I bought
12 inch
every
week.
A 12 inch?
At
least
one
every
week
and
you
used to
have
to
order
them
as
well.
That’s
very interesting
Because
of
Italian
import
some
stuff
weren’t it
Yeah, they were
this
is
interesting
because
you
didn’t
really
know,
well
if
you
went
to
the
only
way
to
do
it
was
to
listen
wasn’t
it?
Listen
and
then
I
ask
Lee
Stan…
What’s
this
called?
What’s
the
name
of
it
and
somehow
I
remembered
it.
I
don’t
know
how
I
even
remember
the
name
of
the
tune,
but
it
were
in
there
and
then
I
go
down
the
following
week
and
go buy it.
I
didn’t
have
a
right
lot.
I
don’t
know.
I might of
had
about
about
200
or
something
like
that
not…
that’s
a
lot.
I don’t know
maybe…
maybe
about
100
I
don’t
know.
It
were..
I
had
a
quite
a
lot
and
I
know
I
can
see
a
record
sleeve
now
and I
know
what
song
that
is
even
now
I
could…
I
could
probably
say
yeah,
I
know…
I
know
what
that
is.
But
do
you
not
think
it
was
interesting
music
because
it
didn’t
really
have
a
image
with
it
did
it
didn’t
get
a
poster…
they
weren’t
in
Smash
Hits
you
didn’t
know
who they
were
did you?
No.
And they
weren’t
really
selling
themselves,
their
egos,
it
was
just
the
music
wasn’t
it?
Yeah
You
didn’t…
Yeah
know
who they
were
never
heard of ’em
especially…
and
even
the
same
people
they
bring…
bring
out
3
12 inch
and
but
they’d
been
under
different
names
wouldn’t
they?
Yes.
Cos’ that
was
the
same
guys.
Yeah
yeah.
But
that
was the
thing
that
sold
it
was
the
music
wasn’t it.
Yeah
Which
is…
which
is…
really
which
is
what..
how
it
should
be
shouldn’t it?
Oh,
yeah,
I mean
it
were
brilliant
and
then
obviously
there were
Manhattan
Heights
as
well
which
were
which
were
great
and
even
like
Adamski
came
to
Manhattan
Heights
and
Yeah
I remember
Guru
Josh
and
there were
coach
loads
coming
from
Manchester
and
that
were
brilliant
as
as
well.
and
that were
a good
a
good
night
That wasn’t
it
carried
on
a
bit
after
didn’t it
as
well?
Yeah
With the….
with
the…
Yeah.
Started
at the Hacienda
on
Thursday.
nights
Yeah
as
well.
Yeah,
Which
was
good
wasn’t it.
Yeah,
it
was
a
bit
political
as
well
wasn’t
it,
you
know,
there
was
abit
much,
it
was
a
bit
anti Tory
wasn’t
it.
Because
obviously
Thatcher
was
the
one
that
you
know,
there
was
a
lot
of
disused
mills
and
that’s
how
your
music
ended
up
in
there.
Un-employment
of
course,
un-employment
and
then
obviously
then
she
brought
the
bills
in
to
stop
the
parties
and,
you
know
the
police
got
a
bit
heavy
handed,
a
bit,
and
it
did
you
know
it
is
it
does
correlate
with
the
miners
and,
it’s
a
bit
kind
of
that,
very
similar
to
that.
I
think
where
they
got
vilified
and,
and
we
got
vilified
as
well,
you
know
the
media,
the
Telegraph
even.
I
mean
it
made
me
laugh
because
recently
the
Telegraph
said,
oh
look
at
this
that
happened
20
years
ago,
and
I
thought
hang
on
a
minute
you
were,
you
were
slagging
everybody
20
years
ago
you
were
saying
there
were
people
having
sex
and
there
were
all
sorts
of
all
that
stuff
going
on
and
you
were
slagging
it
off.
And
similarly
on
the,
Radio
Lancashire
were
doing
interviews
on
you
know,
about
commemorating
30
years
of
Acid
House
and
they
were
totally
against
it
as
well
all
the
yeah,
they
all
were.
Yeah
and
they
demonised
us
made us
look
bad,
you
know,
me’ Mum
and Dad
were
like…
What
you
doing,
doing
this?
I said
I’m
not
doing
anything.
You
know
what
it
was.
It
was
very
very
political.
They
made
a
big
thing
of
the
drug
side
of
it
but
as
you
know,
having
been
on
20
a
week.
It
was
a
lot
less
than
people
make
out
wasn’t
it,
there
was
a
lot
less
of
course…
course,
there
was
drugs
there.
But
yeah
there
was a lot
less than
the media
made
out
at
the
time
that’s
for
sure.
Yeah.
I
think
it
it,
cos,
you
know,
at
that
time
I
was
like
young
and
impressionable
and
I
thought
you
know,
like
Margaret
Thatcher,
woman
Prime
Minister
it
kinda,
it
kind
of
a
kind
of,
not,
I
didn’t
idolise
her, but
I
thought,
wow
a
woman
Prime
Minister.
Because
obviously
she
was
the
first
and
last
wasn’t
she.
So
she
was
to
be
admired
I
thought
until
that
happened
and
then
I
look
back
at
all
the
things
that
happened
and
it
did
change
my
view
politically
because
I
was
a
bit
sliding
towards
that
way.
I
was…
and
it’s
changed
me
completely.
I
went
completely
the
other
way.
I’ve
gone
completely
the
other
way.
I
mean,
I’m
not
really
far
left,
but
I
am
kind
of
more
that
way.
Definitely
changed
me
politically.
Definitely.
When
I
see
like
social
media
and
Facebook
and
things
like
that
and
I
see
like
Mixmag
post
stuff
and
things
like
that
and
if
I
ever
see
kind
of
racist
comments
or…
and
I
think
you
know,
did
you
really
understand
what
that
scene
was
about?
These
are
people
from
that
scene
and
from
what
happened
back
then.
And
I
think
you
know,
do
you
really
truly
remember
what
that
was
about,
cos
I
just
can’t
believe
that
you’ve
got
those
political
views
and
those
views
about,
I
can’t
understand
it,
it
I
can’t,
and
that’s
what
I
see
today
I
think
it’s…
So my
message
for
young
people
is,
is
don’t,
don’t
ever
judge
a
book
by
it’s
cover
Don’t
believe
everything
you
hear
or
read
or
see,
you
know,
because
there’s,
you’ve
to
kinda
be
in
it
to
kinda
believe
it
kind
of
thing.
Yeah,
you
have
to
be
there
to
see
what,
to
appreciate
it.
Yeah.
Don’t
you
know,
don’t
knock
it
till
you’ve
tried
it.
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So
well
it
were
like
89
I
was
like
17
going
on
18,
Right
and
you
just
said
you’re
on
a
Y.T.S
Yeah
Which
was
27
pound
a
week.
Yeah,
And
I
think
it
went
up
to
35
if
you
stayed
on
for
a
second
year
didn’t
it?
Yeah
Or something like that
Yeah
Because
I
was
doing
the
same
and
yeah,
well,
what
was…
what
was
Blackburn
like
at
the
time
you’ve
got…
if
you’re
on
27
a
week
it’s
the
80s
in
Blackburn.
Oh,
yeah
Blackburn
was
busy
wasn’t
it
but
what
else
would
well,
what
did
you
think
it…
was
it…
was
it…
a
poor
town?
Oh
yeah.
Or
was it
an okay
town?
I
mean
obviously
it
had
a
really
good
night
life
always
had
a
good
reputation
of
a
really
good
night
life
so
even
before
the
parties
came,
it
was
pub
crawls
nightclubs
and there
were a
few
nightclubs
to
go
to
weren’t there.
There
were
Ce La Vie
there
were
Mr G’s
there
were
Peppermint Place
which
changed
its
name
a
few
times
And it was
there
was
Manhattan
Heights
as
well
which were
brilliant
that
was
another.
Yeah
good…
really
good
place
to
go.
And
it
was
busy
Thursday
Friday
Saturday.
Yeah
I were
out
nearly
every
night
apart from
bar
one.
I were
out
nearly
every
night
bar
one.
Bar
1?
Bar
one…
night
you
know.
Oh right.
Sorry.
I
know…
I
know.
Yeah
probably
1
night
a week
I wouldn’t
go
out
but
most of
the time
we
did
and
we
just
bought
a little bottles
of
vodka
and
a
coke
and
Yeah
on
27
a
week
you could
do it
Yeah,
that’s
how
you
did
it
you
drank
before
you
went
out
and
then
I
think
Mr G’s
had
like
doubles
for
a
pound
and..
yeah.
Things
like
that
and
yeah,
we used
to get
our
clothes off
market
fer a
fiver
for
this
and
a
fiver for
that
and
I
worked
on an
ice
cream
van
as well
at
weekend.
You
worked
on
an
ice-cream
van?
At
weekend.
Wow.
Yeah,
Where abouts
just
in
Blackburn?
Yeah,
with…
no
till…
no
nothing
just
all
mental
maths
and
in ye’ head.
No
way
that’s
fantastic.
I
used to
work on that
and go
parties
and
then
day
after
go
home
at
10
o’clock
at
morning
and
then
get
up
at
12
and
then
go
on
ice
cream
van
at
1…
have
a
couple
of
hours
sleep
and
then
go out.
No way
do a
tour
of
Blackburn.
Yeah
That’s
amazing…
wow.
I
don’t
know
how
I
did
it.
But
you
had
to…
but
you
have
to
do
didn’t
you…
which was?
Well
that’s
it
that
you
know,
that’s
how
you
pay
for
things though
innit
because
I used
to
buy
records
every
week
12-inch
singles
every
week.
I
mean
some
of
them
back
then
like
white
labels
were like
15
quid
well
that
I
mean
15
quid
now
is
a
lot
of
money
but back
then
it
was
a
Yeah
it
was
really
expensive
wasn’t
it.
Well
I didn’t
buy
15
one
every week
week
you
know,
just
the
odd…
So
why
didn’t
become
a
DJ?
I
don’t
know
Well
probably
because
you
weren’t
allowed.
Probably
not.
But
it’s
interesting
I’ve
not
met
anybody
else
who
said…
Yeah,
every week
I bought..
said
I bought
12 inch
every
week.
A 12 inch?
At
least
one
every
week
and
you
used to
have
to
order
them
as
well.
That’s
very interesting
Because
of
Italian
import
some
stuff
weren’t it
Yeah, they were
this
is
interesting
because
you
didn’t
really
know,
well
if
you
went
to
the
only
way
to
do
it
was
to
listen
wasn’t
it?
Listen
and
then
I
ask
Lee
Stan…
What’s
this
called?
What’s
the
name
of
it
and
somehow
I
remembered
it.
I
don’t
know
how
I
even
remember
the
name
of
the
tune,
but
it
were
in
there
and
then
I
go
down
the
following
week
and
go buy it.
I
didn’t
have
a
right
lot.
I
don’t
know.
I might of
had
about
about
200
or
something
like
that
not…
that’s
a
lot.
I don’t know
maybe…
maybe
about
100
I
don’t
know.
It
were..
I
had
a
quite
a
lot
and
I
know
I
can
see
a
record
sleeve
now
and I
know
what
song
that
is
even
now
I
could…
I
could
probably
say
yeah,
I
know…
I
know
what
that
is.
But
do
you
not
think
it
was
interesting
music
because
it
didn’t
really
have
a
image
with
it
did
it
didn’t
get
a
poster…
they
weren’t
in
Smash
Hits
you
didn’t
know
who they
were
did you?
No.
And they
weren’t
really
selling
themselves,
their
egos,
it
was
just
the
music
wasn’t
it?
Yeah
You
didn’t…
Yeah
know
who they
were
never
heard of ’em
especially…
and
even
the
same
people
they
bring…
bring
out
3
12 inch
and
but
they’d
been
under
different
names
wouldn’t
they?
Yes.
Cos’ that
was
the
same
guys.
Yeah
yeah.
But
that
was the
thing
that
sold
it
was
the
music
wasn’t it.
Yeah
Which
is…
which
is…
really
which
is
what..
how
it
should
be
shouldn’t it?
Oh,
yeah,
I mean
it
were
brilliant
and
then
obviously
there were
Manhattan
Heights
as
well
which
were
which
were
great
and
even
like
Adamski
came
to
Manhattan
Heights
and
Yeah
I remember
Guru
Josh
and
there were
coach
loads
coming
from
Manchester
and
that
were
brilliant
as
as
well.
and
that were
a good
a
good
night
That wasn’t
it
carried
on
a
bit
after
didn’t it
as
well?
Yeah
With the….
with
the…
Yeah.
Started
at the Hacienda
on
Thursday.
nights
Yeah
as
well.
Yeah,
Which
was
good
wasn’t it.
Yeah,
it
was
a
bit
political
as
well
wasn’t
it,
you
know,
there
was
abit
much,
it
was
a
bit
anti Tory
wasn’t
it.
Because
obviously
Thatcher
was
the
one
that
you
know,
there
was
a
lot
of
disused
mills
and
that’s
how
your
music
ended
up
in
there.
Un-employment
of
course,
un-employment
and
then
obviously
then
she
brought
the
bills
in
to
stop
the
parties
and,
you
know
the
police
got
a
bit
heavy
handed,
a
bit,
and
it
did
you
know
it
is
it
does
correlate
with
the
miners
and,
it’s
a
bit
kind
of
that,
very
similar
to
that.
I
think
where
they
got
vilified
and,
and
we
got
vilified
as
well,
you
know
the
media,
the
Telegraph
even.
I
mean
it
made
me
laugh
because
recently
the
Telegraph
said,
oh
look
at
this
that
happened
20
years
ago,
and
I
thought
hang
on
a
minute
you
were,
you
were
slagging
everybody
20
years
ago
you
were
saying
there
were
people
having
sex
and
there
were
all
sorts
of
all
that
stuff
going
on
and
you
were
slagging
it
off.
And
similarly
on
the,
Radio
Lancashire
were
doing
interviews
on
you
know,
about
commemorating
30
years
of
Acid
House
and
they
were
totally
against
it
as
well
all
the
yeah,
they
all
were.
Yeah
and
they
demonised
us
made us
look
bad,
you
know,
me’ Mum
and Dad
were
like…
What
you
doing,
doing
this?
I said
I’m
not
doing
anything.
You
know
what
it
was.
It
was
very
very
political.
They
made
a
big
thing
of
the
drug
side
of
it
but
as
you
know,
having
been
on
20
a
week.
It
was
a
lot
less
than
people
make
out
wasn’t
it,
there
was
a
lot
less
of
course…
course,
there
was
drugs
there.
But
yeah
there
was a lot
less than
the media
made
out
at
the
time
that’s
for
sure.
Yeah.
I
think
it
it,
cos,
you
know,
at
that
time
I
was
like
young
and
impressionable
and
I
thought
you
know,
like
Margaret
Thatcher,
woman
Prime
Minister
it
kinda,
it
kind
of
a
kind
of,
not,
I
didn’t
idolise
her, but
I
thought,
wow
a
woman
Prime
Minister.
Because
obviously
she
was
the
first
and
last
wasn’t
she.
So
she
was
to
be
admired
I
thought
until
that
happened
and
then
I
look
back
at
all
the
things
that
happened
and
it
did
change
my
view
politically
because
I
was
a
bit
sliding
towards
that
way.
I
was…
and
it’s
changed
me
completely.
I
went
completely
the
other
way.
I’ve
gone
completely
the
other
way.
I
mean,
I’m
not
really
far
left,
but
I
am
kind
of
more
that
way.
Definitely
changed
me
politically.
Definitely.
When
I
see
like
social
media
and
Facebook
and
things
like
that
and
I
see
like
Mixmag
post
stuff
and
things
like
that
and
if
I
ever
see
kind
of
racist
comments
or…
and
I
think
you
know,
did
you
really
understand
what
that
scene
was
about?
These
are
people
from
that
scene
and
from
what
happened
back
then.
And
I
think
you
know,
do
you
really
truly
remember
what
that
was
about,
cos
I
just
can’t
believe
that
you’ve
got
those
political
views
and
those
views
about,
I
can’t
understand
it,
it
I
can’t,
and
that’s
what
I
see
today
I
think
it’s…
So my
message
for
young
people
is,
is
don’t,
don’t
ever
judge
a
book
by
it’s
cover
Don’t
believe
everything
you
hear
or
read
or
see,
you
know,
because
there’s,
you’ve
to
kinda
be
in
it
to
kinda
believe
it
kind
of
thing.
Yeah,
you
have
to
be
there
to
see
what,
to
appreciate
it.
Yeah.
Don’t
you
know,
don’t
knock
it
till
you’ve
tried
it.

Julie Advice For Future Generations

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So
my
message
for
young
people
is
don’t
don’t
ever
judge
a
book
by
it’s
cover,
you
know,
don’t
believe
everything
you
hear
or
read
or
see…
don’t
knock
it
till
you’ve
tried
it.
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Julie
Full interview. (6:44 mins)

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So
my
message
for
young
people
is
don’t
don’t
ever
judge
a
book
by
it’s
cover,
you
know,
don’t
believe
everything
you
hear
or
read
or
see…
don’t
knock
it
till
you’ve
tried
it.

Julie Full Interview

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My
name
is
Julie.
I
remember
going
to…
I
think
it
was
Mr.
Gee’s
and
I
remember
a
DJ
in
there
playing
Helyom
Halib
by
Cappella
and
I
thought…
I
like
this…
this is
great
and
then
I
don’t
know
how
but
we
ended
up
from
there
going
to
Crackers
upstairs,
but
there
are
a
couple
of
times
loved
it
really
hot
sweaty
dripping
wet
through
from
the
ceiling
steamy
hot
place
boilin’
but
really
good,
and
then…
but
we
only
went
twice
because
then
I
think
it
moved
it
Sett
End
from
then
and
then
that’s
when
it
all
kind
of
began
for
me
and
my
friend
at
the
time.
That
was…
that
was
it
we
went
to
Sett
End
and
then
our
first
warehouse
party
was
at
it
was
in
Lower
Darwen.
I
remember
it
was
the
kind
of
went
in…
you
went
in
things
that…
it
was
very
narrow
concrete
corridors
and
they
were
seem
to
be
candles
all
the
way
along
and
I’ll never
forget
because
it
was
the
very
first
one
I
went
to
and
I’d
only
been
drinking
a
a
bit
of
vodka
and
a
coke
and
that’s
all…
and there were
these
candles
going
all
the
way
along
and it
was
very
dark…
and
then
we
come
out
and
it
was
a
big
warehouse,
obviously,
it
was
pitch
black
so
you
can’t
really
see
much…
little
light
with
like
tiny
lights
little
strobes
and
things
up
at
the
top
and
I
think
Charles
B
Lack
Of
Love
played
and
it
was
and
E-Zee
possé
Everything
Starts
with
an
E
and
me
my
friend
looked
at
each
other
and we
were
like
Wow.
What
is
this?
This
is
brilliant
that
you
know,
it
blew
our
minds…
blew
our
minds
and
the
atmosphere
and
everything
were
it
were
brilliant
and
I
remember
then
it
got
busted
by
police.
I
remember
the…
they
beat
the
doors
down
with
an
axe
or
something…
I heard
somebody
say…
everybody
out
back
we
all
had
to
push…
we
all
got
kind
of…
a
bit
like it
reminded
me
of
Hillsborough,
a
bit…
was
a
bit
like
everybody
got
pushed
to
the
front.
I
felt…
I
thought
I
were
gonna
get
crushed
and
I
think…
I
don’t
know
whether
they
bashed
the
doors
down
with
an
axe
or
something.
They
burst
in…
they
had
riot
shields
helmets
Alsatian
dogs,
and
they
were
like
EVERYBODY
OUT
and
I’m
sure
that’s
the
party
that
Tony
Kreft
shouted…
I
remember him
shouting…
The
bastards
have
took
the
decks…
but
this
was
like….
this
was
like
a
few
hours
later
so
it’s
been
going
for
quite
some
time.
I
remember
looking
up
and
it
was…
I’m
sure
it
was
like
a
zig…
you
know,
those
really
old
warehouses…
were
factories
where
they’d
have
like
a
glass
ceiling
that
was
Yeah like a zigzag
zigzag-ceiling
and
there
was
somebody
crawling
across
the
roof
and
I’m not
sure if
that
were
police
looking
to
see
how
many
people
were
in
but
I
could
see
somebody
up
there
before
that
before
they
broke
the
doors
down
and
they
just
went
like
EVERYBODY
OUT
some
obviously
we’ve
got
kicked out
and we
thought,
wow,
that
were
brilliant
we
have
to
do
that
again.
and
that
were
it
that
kinda did it
for
us.
The
best
part
about
it
was…
I
think
is
that at
one
time
Blackburn
were
a
bit
divided
there
were
lots
of
different
areas
in
Blackburn
that
were
all
divided
you
had
Mill
Hill.
Ye’ had
Infirmary
area.
ye’ had,
Queens
Park
area.
ye had,
Blackburn
Youth
you had
all
these
different
groups
and
they
used
to
be
a
bit
of
trouble
as
well.
I
used
to o’ to
King
George’s Hall
on
a
Monday
night
and
Monday
Night
Madness…
used
to
be
chairs
flying
across
the
room
and
things
like
that.
and I
remember…
do
you
know
that
and
then
that
just
all
stopped
there
were
no
trouble.
everybody
knew
everybody…
if
you
knew…
so
if
you
went
to
a
party
and
it
wasn’t
the
right
1
or
somet’
you
knew
it
were
the
right
1
because
there
wasn’t
anybody
there
you
that,
you
know,
you
didn’t
know
so
if
you
were
at
somewhere
where you
didn’t
know
anybody
you’re
at
the
wrong
1
because
you
knew
everybody
every
time
that’s
one
of
my
fondest
memories
really
is
and….
and
just
the
atmosphere
of
of
being
in
that
in
a
warehouse
the
sound…
the
mood…
the
it’s
I
can still
kind
of
feel
that
and
remember
that
all
this
time…
that
you’ll…
you
can…
and
you
can
never
replace
it.
You
can
never
recreate
it.
It’s
gone…
it
happened
and
it
was
just
the
whole
the
music,
you
know,
and
if
anybody…
you
know,
anybody
would
do
anything
for
you
if
you
needed
a
lift
somewhere
or…
it
were
a
bit
like
suppose it were
like
hip…
60s
hippies…
like
bit
of
peace
and
love
kind
of
thing
and
that’s
what
it
was.
I
liked
Ewood
Mill
I
always
remember
because
there
were
2
there,
one
week
after
the
other
and
Ste…
Well,
I
don’t
know
Ste…
were
talking
about it
he
dressed
in
a
red
devil
suit
and I
remember
him
New
year
Eve
he
had a
big
red
devil
suit
on
he
must
have
hired
it
a
big
furry…
He
was
absolutely
roasting
sweating
like
I
don’t know
what
with
this
Big
Red
Devil
suit
on
New
Years
Eve
He must’ve
to
decided
to
dress
up
like that
So that were
fond
memories
and
jumping
in
back
of
his
van.
We
once
got
led
up a
garden
path
I
think
it
was
it
must
have
been
a false
convoy
and
we
ended
up.
I
don’t
know
if
it
was
Tockholes
or
somewhere.
I
don’t
know
we
ended
up
down
this
dirt
track
lots
of
us
and
then
the
police
blocked
off
one
end
and
then
they
blocked
off
the
other
end
and
they
decided
to
search
all
the
cars
and
vans
and
this
lad
that
was
in
the
van
dropped
some
weed
on
the
floor
and
it
was
like
a
quite
a
big
chunk of
weed
on
the
floor
so
I’m
hiding
in the
back
of
this
van
the
door
opens
and
I’m
like
this
and
there’s
a
policeman
there
and
I
were like…
Oh
hello
that kind
of
thing.
Anyway,
they
got
the
sniffer
dog,
and
I’m
thinking
oh
my
God…
sniffer
dog…
sniffer
dog
went
in
it
and
never
found
it.
I
don’t
know
how
it
never
found
it,
but
it
never
found
it
because
it
was
a
lot
of
electrical
equipment
in
the
back
wires
it
were
full
of
stuff
that
it
wasn’t
organised.
It
was
a
bit
organised
chaos
it
was
so
that’s
probably
why
it
didn’t
find
it
but
I
was
like
so
so
relieved
and
then
this
policemen
said
like…
What
are
you
doing
in…
you
know
back of
here?
You
know,
you
shouldn’t
really
be
in
the
back
of
here
because
you’re
not
it’s
not
a
passenger
vehicle
you
shouldn’t
really
be
in
the
back
of
here
and
I
said,
well,
I’ve
no
way
of
getting
home
now
and
he
said
go
on
we’ll…
we’ll
let
you
off
this
time.
He
said
but
in
future
don’t
get
in
the
back
of
that
van
and
then
obviously
the
week
after
I
got
back
in
the
back
of
the
van.
So
a
message
for
young
people
is
don’t…
don’t
ever
judge
a
book
by
it’s
cover,
you
know,
don’t
believe
everything
you
hear
or
read
or
see
don’t
knock
it
till
you’ve
tried
it.
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Damo 2
Getting involved. (1:03 mins)

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My
name
is
Julie.
I
remember
going
to…
I
think
it
was
Mr.
Gee’s
and
I
remember
a
DJ
in
there
playing
Helyom
Halib
by
Cappella
and
I
thought…
I
like
this…
this is
great
and
then
I
don’t
know
how
but
we
ended
up
from
there
going
to
Crackers
upstairs,
but
there
are
a
couple
of
times
loved
it
really
hot
sweaty
dripping
wet
through
from
the
ceiling
steamy
hot
place
boilin’
but
really
good,
and
then…
but
we
only
went
twice
because
then
I
think
it
moved
it
Sett
End
from
then
and
then
that’s
when
it
all
kind
of
began
for
me
and
my
friend
at
the
time.
That
was…
that
was
it
we
went
to
Sett
End
and
then
our
first
warehouse
party
was
at
it
was
in
Lower
Darwen.
I
remember
it
was
the
kind
of
went
in…
you
went
in
things
that…
it
was
very
narrow
concrete
corridors
and
they
were
seem
to
be
candles
all
the
way
along
and
I’ll never
forget
because
it
was
the
very
first
one
I
went
to
and
I’d
only
been
drinking
a
a
bit
of
vodka
and
a
coke
and
that’s
all…
and there were
these
candles
going
all
the
way
along
and it
was
very
dark…
and
then
we
come
out
and
it
was
a
big
warehouse,
obviously,
it
was
pitch
black
so
you
can’t
really
see
much…
little
light
with
like
tiny
lights
little
strobes
and
things
up
at
the
top
and
I
think
Charles
B
Lack
Of
Love
played
and
it
was
and
E-Zee
possé
Everything
Starts
with
an
E
and
me
my
friend
looked
at
each
other
and we
were
like
Wow.
What
is
this?
This
is
brilliant
that
you
know,
it
blew
our
minds…
blew
our
minds
and
the
atmosphere
and
everything
were
it
were
brilliant
and
I
remember
then
it
got
busted
by
police.
I
remember
the…
they
beat
the
doors
down
with
an
axe
or
something…
I heard
somebody
say…
everybody
out
back
we
all
had
to
push…
we
all
got
kind
of…
a
bit
like it
reminded
me
of
Hillsborough,
a
bit…
was
a
bit
like
everybody
got
pushed
to
the
front.
I
felt…
I
thought
I
were
gonna
get
crushed
and
I
think…
I
don’t
know
whether
they
bashed
the
doors
down
with
an
axe
or
something.
They
burst
in…
they
had
riot
shields
helmets
Alsatian
dogs,
and
they
were
like
EVERYBODY
OUT
and
I’m
sure
that’s
the
party
that
Tony
Kreft
shouted…
I
remember him
shouting…
The
bastards
have
took
the
decks…
but
this
was
like….
this
was
like
a
few
hours
later
so
it’s
been
going
for
quite
some
time.
I
remember
looking
up
and
it
was…
I’m
sure
it
was
like
a
zig…
you
know,
those
really
old
warehouses…
were
factories
where
they’d
have
like
a
glass
ceiling
that
was
Yeah like a zigzag
zigzag-ceiling
and
there
was
somebody
crawling
across
the
roof
and
I’m not
sure if
that
were
police
looking
to
see
how
many
people
were
in
but
I
could
see
somebody
up
there
before
that
before
they
broke
the
doors
down
and
they
just
went
like
EVERYBODY
OUT
some
obviously
we’ve
got
kicked out
and we
thought,
wow,
that
were
brilliant
we
have
to
do
that
again.
and
that
were
it
that
kinda did it
for
us.
The
best
part
about
it
was…
I
think
is
that at
one
time
Blackburn
were
a
bit
divided
there
were
lots
of
different
areas
in
Blackburn
that
were
all
divided
you
had
Mill
Hill.
Ye’ had
Infirmary
area.
ye’ had,
Queens
Park
area.
ye had,
Blackburn
Youth
you had
all
these
different
groups
and
they
used
to
be
a
bit
of
trouble
as
well.
I
used
to o’ to
King
George’s Hall
on
a
Monday
night
and
Monday
Night
Madness…
used
to
be
chairs
flying
across
the
room
and
things
like
that.
and I
remember…
do
you
know
that
and
then
that
just
all
stopped
there
were
no
trouble.
everybody
knew
everybody…
if
you
knew…
so
if
you
went
to
a
party
and
it
wasn’t
the
right
1
or
somet’
you
knew
it
were
the
right
1
because
there
wasn’t
anybody
there
you
that,
you
know,
you
didn’t
know
so
if
you
were
at
somewhere
where you
didn’t
know
anybody
you’re
at
the
wrong
1
because
you
knew
everybody
every
time
that’s
one
of
my
fondest
memories
really
is
and….
and
just
the
atmosphere
of
of
being
in
that
in
a
warehouse
the
sound…
the
mood…
the
it’s
I
can still
kind
of
feel
that
and
remember
that
all
this
time…
that
you’ll…
you
can…
and
you
can
never
replace
it.
You
can
never
recreate
it.
It’s
gone…
it
happened
and
it
was
just
the
whole
the
music,
you
know,
and
if
anybody…
you
know,
anybody
would
do
anything
for
you
if
you
needed
a
lift
somewhere
or…
it
were
a
bit
like
suppose it were
like
hip…
60s
hippies…
like
bit
of
peace
and
love
kind
of
thing
and
that’s
what
it
was.
I
liked
Ewood
Mill
I
always
remember
because
there
were
2
there,
one
week
after
the
other
and
Ste…
Well,
I
don’t
know
Ste…
were
talking
about it
he
dressed
in
a
red
devil
suit
and I
remember
him
New
year
Eve
he
had a
big
red
devil
suit
on
he
must
have
hired
it
a
big
furry…
He
was
absolutely
roasting
sweating
like
I
don’t know
what
with
this
Big
Red
Devil
suit
on
New
Years
Eve
He must’ve
to
decided
to
dress
up
like that
So that were
fond
memories
and
jumping
in
back
of
his
van.
We
once
got
led
up a
garden
path
I
think
it
was
it
must
have
been
a false
convoy
and
we
ended
up.
I
don’t
know
if
it
was
Tockholes
or
somewhere.
I
don’t
know
we
ended
up
down
this
dirt
track
lots
of
us
and
then
the
police
blocked
off
one
end
and
then
they
blocked
off
the
other
end
and
they
decided
to
search
all
the
cars
and
vans
and
this
lad
that
was
in
the
van
dropped
some
weed
on
the
floor
and
it
was
like
a
quite
a
big
chunk of
weed
on
the
floor
so
I’m
hiding
in the
back
of
this
van
the
door
opens
and
I’m
like
this
and
there’s
a
policeman
there
and
I
were like…
Oh
hello
that kind
of
thing.
Anyway,
they
got
the
sniffer
dog,
and
I’m
thinking
oh
my
God…
sniffer
dog…
sniffer
dog
went
in
it
and
never
found
it.
I
don’t
know
how
it
never
found
it,
but
it
never
found
it
because
it
was
a
lot
of
electrical
equipment
in
the
back
wires
it
were
full
of
stuff
that
it
wasn’t
organised.
It
was
a
bit
organised
chaos
it
was
so
that’s
probably
why
it
didn’t
find
it
but
I
was
like
so
so
relieved
and
then
this
policemen
said
like…
What
are
you
doing
in…
you
know
back of
here?
You
know,
you
shouldn’t
really
be
in
the
back
of
here
because
you’re
not
it’s
not
a
passenger
vehicle
you
shouldn’t
really
be
in
the
back
of
here
and
I
said,
well,
I’ve
no
way
of
getting
home
now
and
he
said
go
on
we’ll…
we’ll
let
you
off
this
time.
He
said
but
in
future
don’t
get
in
the
back
of
that
van
and
then
obviously
the
week
after
I
got
back
in
the
back
of
the
van.
So
a
message
for
young
people
is
don’t…
don’t
ever
judge
a
book
by
it’s
cover,
you
know,
don’t
believe
everything
you
hear
or
read
or
see
don’t
knock
it
till
you’ve
tried
it.

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Are
there
any
more
dark
memories
of
that
time?
At
that
time.
No
it
felt
like…
It
felt
like
we
were
involved
in
a
revolution.
It
really
did
even
though
it
was
this
just
in
this
one
small
Northern
town.
It
did
feel
like
we were
going
to
take
over…
the
police
just
couldn’t
deal
with
it.
They
couldn’t
handle
it…
and
we
just
yeah
just
felt
revolutionary,
but
i’d
have
said
the
dark
bit
happened
later
obviously
the
Sett
End
closed
down
and
then
they
started
trying
to
get
it
going
at
the
you
Yutick’s
Nest.
So
we
were
hanging
around
there
a
lot
and
nothing
there
were
like
a
little
spell
where
nothing
seemed
to
happen.
And
I
think at
this
stage
aswell
the
queues
had
gone
mad
as
well.
So
Yu…
Yutick’s Nest
were
virtually
impossible
to
get
in..
well
by
the
time
that
happened
on
but
I’d
say it
started
getting
ugly
when
Monroe’s
when
it
moved
to
Monroe’s
because
obviously
they
did,
you
know,
the
drug
wars
and
everything
that
happened
there
and
you
know,
the
doorman
wanting
to
take
control
of
what
happened
and
I
think
there
were
a…
even
a
gun
pulled
at
Monroe’s
at
one
point
and
and
it
felt
you
know,
you
were
scared
going
there.
And
the
first…
I’d
say
the
first
few
months
going
up
Monroe’s
were
great,
you
know it
used
to
make
me
laugh
that
there
was
no
alcohol
license
there,
you
know,
it’s
a
nightclub
with
a
massive
bar
and
there’s
no
alcohol
license.
But
yeah,
it
just
started
getting
ugly
and
I
think…
I
think
like
I
said
before
it
did…
it
just…
it
did
just
stop
in
the
end.
But
then
for
me
in
its
last…
I
will
always…
and
I
wanted
to
be
into
the
next
big
thing
constantly
as
well.
So
between
me
and
my
friends,
it
had
lost
its
trendiness,
you
know
what
I
mean
by
that
point
as
well
And
it
just
became
full
of
d**heads
and
violence,
you
know,
so
we
thought
right..
well
we’ll
get
into
the
next
thing…
we’ll
find
what
the
next
thing
is
and
get
into
that.
So
yeah,
I
wouldn’t
say
it…
yeah,
obviously
there’s
the
underaged
element
to
it.
Obviously
like
me
being
in
there a
15 year
old,
you
know
me’ mum
had
no
idea
what
we were
doing.
She
thought
we’d gone
to
a
disco,
you
know,
and
then
on
obviously
when
they
trapped
us
all
in
Blackburn
town
centre
on
Darwen
Street
where
The
Minstrels
used
to
be…
they
boxed
us
all
in and
I
can
remember
us
being
shoulder
to
shoulder
on
that
crossroads.
It
might
even
have
been
Tommy…
there
was
I
remember
there
was a
lad stood
on
a
car
roof
going..
Nobody
run!
Nobody
run!
They
started
letting
dogs
go
1
or
2
cops
let
dogs go
you
know
there wer’
dogs
barking
they’re
letting
dogs
go
out in’t
crowd
and
I
can
remember
mounted
police
in
a
crowd
like
tryna’
round
everybody
up
in
middle
of
that…
That…
that
wer’
that wer’ a
ugly
side
to
it.
But
yeah
the…
the
most…
the
overall
memory
of
it
is
just
that
this
revolutionary
Punk
spirit
you
know,
it’s
like
the
youths
were
taking
it,
you
know,
we’re
taking
it
and
it’s
ours.
We’re
having
it,
you
know.
Yeah
great
days.
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Are
there
any
more
dark
memories
of
that
time?
At
that
time.
No
it
felt
like…
It
felt
like
we
were
involved
in
a
revolution.
It
really
did
even
though
it
was
this
just
in
this
one
small
Northern
town.
It
did
feel
like
we were
going
to
take
over…
the
police
just
couldn’t
deal
with
it.
They
couldn’t
handle
it…
and
we
just
yeah
just
felt
revolutionary,
but
i’d
have
said
the
dark
bit
happened
later
obviously
the
Sett
End
closed
down
and
then
they
started
trying
to
get
it
going
at
the
you
Yutick’s
Nest.
So
we
were
hanging
around
there
a
lot
and
nothing
there
were
like
a
little
spell
where
nothing
seemed
to
happen.
And
I
think at
this
stage
aswell
the
queues
had
gone
mad
as
well.
So
Yu…
Yutick’s Nest
were
virtually
impossible
to
get
in..
well
by
the
time
that
happened
on
but
I’d
say it
started
getting
ugly
when
Monroe’s
when
it
moved
to
Monroe’s
because
obviously
they
did,
you
know,
the
drug
wars
and
everything
that
happened
there
and
you
know,
the
doorman
wanting
to
take
control
of
what
happened
and
I
think
there
were
a…
even
a
gun
pulled
at
Monroe’s
at
one
point
and
and
it
felt
you
know,
you
were
scared
going
there.
And
the
first…
I’d
say
the
first
few
months
going
up
Monroe’s
were
great,
you
know it
used
to
make
me
laugh
that
there
was
no
alcohol
license
there,
you
know,
it’s
a
nightclub
with
a
massive
bar
and
there’s
no
alcohol
license.
But
yeah,
it
just
started
getting
ugly
and
I
think…
I
think
like
I
said
before
it
did…
it
just…
it
did
just
stop
in
the
end.
But
then
for
me
in
its
last…
I
will
always…
and
I
wanted
to
be
into
the
next
big
thing
constantly
as
well.
So
between
me
and
my
friends,
it
had
lost
its
trendiness,
you
know
what
I
mean
by
that
point
as
well
And
it
just
became
full
of
d**heads
and
violence,
you
know,
so
we
thought
right..
well
we’ll
get
into
the
next
thing…
we’ll
find
what
the
next
thing
is
and
get
into
that.
So
yeah,
I
wouldn’t
say
it…
yeah,
obviously
there’s
the
underaged
element
to
it.
Obviously
like
me
being
in
there a
15 year
old,
you
know
me’ mum
had
no
idea
what
we were
doing.
She
thought
we’d gone
to
a
disco,
you
know,
and
then
on
obviously
when
they
trapped
us
all
in
Blackburn
town
centre
on
Darwen
Street
where
The
Minstrels
used
to
be…
they
boxed
us
all
in and
I
can
remember
us
being
shoulder
to
shoulder
on
that
crossroads.
It
might
even
have
been
Tommy…
there
was
I
remember
there
was a
lad stood
on
a
car
roof
going..
Nobody
run!
Nobody
run!
They
started
letting
dogs
go
1
or
2
cops
let
dogs go
you
know
there wer’
dogs
barking
they’re
letting
dogs
go
out in’t
crowd
and
I
can
remember
mounted
police
in
a
crowd
like
tryna’
round
everybody
up
in
middle
of
that…
That…
that
wer’
that wer’ a
ugly
side
to
it.
But
yeah
the…
the
most…
the
overall
memory
of
it
is
just
that
this
revolutionary
Punk
spirit
you
know,
it’s
like
the
youths
were
taking
it,
you
know,
we’re
taking
it
and
it’s
ours.
We’re
having
it,
you
know.
Yeah
great
days.

Mark Life Afterwards

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What
what
did
you
do
after
the
parties?
I
think…
I
would
still
going
to
I
think
like
I
said,
I
was
still
going
to…
see
this
is
where
I
get
me’
dates
mixed
up
I
think
by
the
end
of
art
school
I had
kind
of
gotten…
totally
fallen
out
with
it,
you
know,
maybe
at
the
beginning
maybe
the
1st
year
on
the
that
B-Tech
I’d
fallen
out
with
it
and
then…
yeah
I
went
to…
it
was
still
going
on
though.
They
were still
going
on
those
still
big
parties
going
on
and
I
can
remember
going…
I
went
to
do
film
studies
and
television
design
at
Farnborough.
I
wasn’t a
very
focused
student
so
I
didn’t
get
in
on
the
degree
course
I
wanted
it,
you
know,
if
I’m
going
out
every
weekend
doing
that.
It’s
not
surprising.
You
know,
you
know,
As
you
know,
Sally
said
she
said,
I
do
remember
you from
art
school
but
you
were
never
there.
And
then
yes,
I’m
like
doing
film
and
television
design
down
South.
And
yeah,
I
think
I’d
been
there
about
6
months.
And
me
mates
are
ringing
me up
again.
There’s
massive
raves
going
on
again.
There’s
there
were
like
20000
people
last
week,
you
know
blah
de
blah.
Yeah…
so
I
thought
F**k it
I’m
going
home.
So
I
sacked
my
course
off
and
went
home.
Me
mum…
me
mum
was
not
happy
about
it.
But
yeah
talking
about
the
numbers
going
mad.
This
is…
I
can’t
remember
clearly
whether
it
was
after
the
Sett
End
or
after
Monroe’s
but
there
was
a
party
where
it
was
the
biggest
numbers
they’ve
ever
seen.
I
think
they
were
estimated.
15000
in
a
Royal…
Royal
Mail
warehouse
that
are
just
been
built
just…
just
been
completed.
In
fact,
I
don’t
think
they’d
finished
the
concrete
on
one
corner
that
section
of
the
floor
and
there
was
still
a
JCB
in
the
middle
of
the
building
which
we
were
dancing
on
and
I
can
I
think
there
were
like
15000
in
the
building
and
10
or
and
10000
outside
still
trying
to
get
in
and
it
was…
it
was
just
mental.
It
just
went
mad,
you
know,
but
yeah
that’s…
there
was
another
ugly
side
there
as
well.
Obviously
they
were
they
were
charging
as
you
go
in
you’re
paying
your
money.
Obviously,
there’s
gangs
of
lads
coming
from
every
city
all
over
the
North
so
there
was
gangs of
lads
trying
to
force
the
roller
shutters
up…
like
jacking
them
up
and
as…
as
they
got
them
about
that
high
there
were
people
who
started
crawling…
these
roller shutters like..
like
the
length
of
this
street…
you
know,
and
the
people
start
pouring
underneath
it
crawling
and
as
they
were
doing…
as
they
were
doing
it…
there
were
lads
in
SAS
masks
balaclavas
wi’
baseball
bats
cracking
their
knuckles
cracking
their
knuckles
cracking…
you
know
as
they were
coming
in…
that sort of
thing
some
of
them
got
in
and
escaped
into
the
crowd,
but
they
were
like
cracking
people
as
they
were
trying
to
force
the
roller
shutters
back
down.
And
so
yeah
that
was
another
ugly
side
to
it.
But
yeah,
if
they
were…
it…
it
great (laughs)
apart
from,
you
know
apart
from
those
instances.
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Life Afterwards. (3:23 mins)
Mark
Advice for future generations. (18 secs)

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What
what
did
you
do
after
the
parties?
I
think…
I
would
still
going
to
I
think
like
I
said,
I
was
still
going
to…
see
this
is
where
I
get
me’
dates
mixed
up
I
think
by
the
end
of
art
school
I had
kind
of
gotten…
totally
fallen
out
with
it,
you
know,
maybe
at
the
beginning
maybe
the
1st
year
on
the
that
B-Tech
I’d
fallen
out
with
it
and
then…
yeah
I
went
to…
it
was
still
going
on
though.
They
were still
going
on
those
still
big
parties
going
on
and
I
can
remember
going…
I
went
to
do
film
studies
and
television
design
at
Farnborough.
I
wasn’t a
very
focused
student
so
I
didn’t
get
in
on
the
degree
course
I
wanted
it,
you
know,
if
I’m
going
out
every
weekend
doing
that.
It’s
not
surprising.
You
know,
you
know,
As
you
know,
Sally
said
she
said,
I
do
remember
you from
art
school
but
you
were
never
there.
And
then
yes,
I’m
like
doing
film
and
television
design
down
South.
And
yeah,
I
think
I’d
been
there
about
6
months.
And
me
mates
are
ringing
me up
again.
There’s
massive
raves
going
on
again.
There’s
there
were
like
20000
people
last
week,
you
know
blah
de
blah.
Yeah…
so
I
thought
F**k it
I’m
going
home.
So
I
sacked
my
course
off
and
went
home.
Me
mum…
me
mum
was
not
happy
about
it.
But
yeah
talking
about
the
numbers
going
mad.
This
is…
I
can’t
remember
clearly
whether
it
was
after
the
Sett
End
or
after
Monroe’s
but
there
was
a
party
where
it
was
the
biggest
numbers
they’ve
ever
seen.
I
think
they
were
estimated.
15000
in
a
Royal…
Royal
Mail
warehouse
that
are
just
been
built
just…
just
been
completed.
In
fact,
I
don’t
think
they’d
finished
the
concrete
on
one
corner
that
section
of
the
floor
and
there
was
still
a
JCB
in
the
middle
of
the
building
which
we
were
dancing
on
and
I
can
I
think
there
were
like
15000
in
the
building
and
10
or
and
10000
outside
still
trying
to
get
in
and
it
was…
it
was
just
mental.
It
just
went
mad,
you
know,
but
yeah
that’s…
there
was
another
ugly
side
there
as
well.
Obviously
they
were
they
were
charging
as
you
go
in
you’re
paying
your
money.
Obviously,
there’s
gangs
of
lads
coming
from
every
city
all
over
the
North
so
there
was
gangs of
lads
trying
to
force
the
roller
shutters
up…
like
jacking
them
up
and
as…
as
they
got
them
about
that
high
there
were
people
who
started
crawling…
these
roller shutters like..
like
the
length
of
this
street…
you
know,
and
the
people
start
pouring
underneath
it
crawling
and
as
they
were
doing…
as
they
were
doing
it…
there
were
lads
in
SAS
masks
balaclavas
wi’
baseball
bats
cracking
their
knuckles
cracking
their
knuckles
cracking…
you
know
as
they were
coming
in…
that sort of
thing
some
of
them
got
in
and
escaped
into
the
crowd,
but
they
were
like
cracking
people
as
they
were
trying
to
force
the
roller
shutters
back
down.
And
so
yeah
that
was
another
ugly
side
to
it.
But
yeah,
if
they
were…
it…
it
great (laughs)
apart
from,
you
know
apart
from
those
instances.

Mark Advice For Future Generations

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What
one
thing
would
you
say
to
a
kid
in
Blackburn
in
a
100
years
time
about
that
time?
Enjoy
looking
back
at
this
but
always
look
forward
and
always
think
progressively.
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Full interview. (15:16 mins)

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What
one
thing
would
you
say
to
a
kid
in
Blackburn
in
a
100
years
time
about
that
time?
Enjoy
looking
back
at
this
but
always
look
forward
and
always
think
progressively.