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My
                                  name
                                  is
                                  Julie.
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  going
                                  to
                                  I
                                  think
                                  it
                                  was
                                  Mr
                                  Gee’s
                                  and
                                  remember
                                  a
                                  DJ
                                  in
                                  there
                                  playing
                                  Helyom
                                  Halib
                                  by
                                  Cappella
                                  and
                                  I
                                  thought
                                  I
                                  like
                                  this…
                                  this is
                                  great
                                  and
                                  then
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  how
                                  but
                                  we
                                  ended
                                  up
                                  from
                                  there
                                  going
                                  to
                                  Crackers
                                  upstairs
                                  went
                                  there
                                  a
                                  couple
                                  of
                                  times
                                  loved
                                  it
                                  really
                                  hot,
                                  sweaty,
                                  dripping
                                  wet
                                  through
                                  from
                                  the
                                  ceiling
                                  steamy
                                  hot
                                  place
                                  boiling
                                  but
                                  really
                                  good,
                                  and
                                  then
                                  but
                                  we
                                  only
                                  went
                                  twice
                                  because
                                  then
                                  I
                                  think
                                  it
                                  moved
                                  it
                                  Sett
                                  End
                                  from
                                  then
                                  and
                                  then
                                  that’s
                                  when
                                  it
                                  all
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  began
                                  for
                                  me
                                  and
                                  my
                                  friend
                                  at
                                  the
                                  time.
                                  What
                                  was
                                  that…
                                  was
                                  it…
                                  we
                                  went
                                  to
                                  Sett
                                  End
                                  and
                                  then
                                  our
                                  first
                                  warehouse 
                                  party
                                  was
                                  at
                                  it
                                  was
                                  in
                                  Lower
                                  Darwen
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  it
                                  was
                                  the…
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  went
                                  in…
                                  you
                                  went
                                  in…
                                  think
                                  that
                                  it
                                  was
                                  very
                                  narrow
                                  concrete
                                  corridors
                                  and
                                  they
                                  will
                                  seem
                                  to
                                  be
                                  candles
                                  all
                                  the
                                  way
                                  along
                                  and
                                  I’ll never
                                  forget
                                  because
                                  it
                                  was
                                  the
                                  very
                                  first
                                  one
                                  I
                                  went
                                  to
                                  and
                                  I’d
                                  only
                                  been
                                  drinking
                                  a…
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  of
                                  vodka
                                  and
                                  a
                                  coke
                                  and
                                  that’s
                                  all
                                  remember…
                                  all
                                  these
                                  candles
                                  going
                                  all
                                  the
                                  way
                                  along…
                                  it
                                  was
                                  very
                                  dark
                                  and
                                  then
                                  we
                                  come
                                  out
                                  and
                                  it
                                  was
                                  a
                                  big
                                  warehouse,
                                  obviously
                                  it
                                  was
                                  pitch
                                  black
                                  so
                                  you
                                  can’t
                                  really
                                  see
                                  much…
                                  little
                                  light…
                                  with
                                  like
                                  tiny
                                  lights
                                  little
                                  strobes
                                  and
                                  things
                                  up
                                  at
                                  the
                                  top
                                  and
                                  I
                                  think
                                  Charles
                                  B
                                  Lack
                                  of
                                  Love 
                                  played
                                  and
                                  it
                                  was
                                  and
                                  E-Zee
                                  Possé
                                  Everything
                                  Starts
                                  with
                                  an
                                  E
                                  and
                                  me and
                                  my
                                  friend
                                  lots
                                  of
                                  each
                                  other
                                  we
                                  were
                                  like
                                  wow.
                                  What
                                  is
                                  this?
                                  This
                                  is
                                  brilliant
                                  that
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  it
                                  blew
                                  our
                                  minds
                                  blew
                                  our
                                  minds
                                  and
                                  the
                                  atmosphere
                                  and
                                  everything
                                  were
                                  it
                                  were
                                  brilliant
                                  and
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  then
                                  it
                                  got
                                  busted
                                  by
                                  police….
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  the…
                                  they
                                  beat
                                  the
                                  doors
                                  down
                                  with
                                  an
                                  axe
                                  or
                                  something
                                  and
                                  I heard 
                                  somebody
                                  say
                                  everybody
                                  out
                                  back.
                                  We
                                  all
                                  had
                                  to
                                  push 
                                  We
                                  all
                                  got
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  like
                                  reminded
                                  me
                                  of
                                  Hillsborough
                                  a bit…
                                  it
                                  was
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  like
                                  everybody
                                  got
                                  pushed
                                  to
                                  the
                                  front
                                  door
                                  I felt
                                  I
                                  thought
                                  I
                                  were
                                  gonna
                                  get
                                  crushed
                                  and
                                  I
                                  think
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  whether
                                  they
                                  bashed
                                  the
                                  doors
                                  down
                                  with
                                  an
                                  axe
                                  or
                                  something.
                                  They
                                  burst
                                  in
                                  the
                                  had
                                  riot
                                  shields
                                  helmets
                                  Alsatian
                                  dogs
                                  and
                                  they
                                  were
                                  like
                                  EVERYBODY 
                                  OUT
                                  and
                                  I’m
                                  sure
                                  that’s
                                  the
                                  party
                                  that
                                  Tony
                                  Kreft
                                  shouted
                                  I
                                  remember him
                                  shouting…
                                  The
                                  bastards
                                  have
                                  took
                                  the
                                  decks.
                                  But
                                  this
                                  was
                                  like…
                                  this
                                  was
                                  like
                                  a
                                  few
                                  hours
                                  later
                                  so
                                  it’s
                                  been
                                  going
                                  for
                                  quite
                                  some
                                  time
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  looking
                                  up
                                  and
                                  it
                                  was…
                                  I’m
                                  sure
                                  it
                                  was
                                  like
                                  a
                                  zig…
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  those
                                  really
                                  old
                                  warehouses
                                  where
                                  factories
                                  where
                                  they had
                                  like
                                  a
                                  glass
                                  ceiling
                                  that
                                  was
                                  Yeah like a zigzag
                                  zigzag-ceiling
                                  and
                                  there
                                  were
                                  somebody
                                  crawling
                                  across
                                  the
                                  roof
                                  I don’t
                                  know if
                                  that were
                                  police
                                  looking
                                  to
                                  see
                                  how
                                  many
                                  people
                                  were
                                  in
                                  but
                                  I
                                  could
                                  see…
                                  see
                                  somebody
                                  up
                                  there
                                  before
                                  that…
                                  before
                                  they
                                  brought
                                  the
                                  doors
                                  down
                                  and
                                  they
                                  just
                                  might
                                  let
                                  EVERYBODY
                                  OUT
                                  AND
                                  obviously
                                  we’ve
                                  got
                                  kicked
                                  out
                                  and
                                  we
                                  thought
                                  wow,
                                  that
                                  would
                                  be
                                  brilliant
                                  would
                                  have
                                  to
                                  do
                                  that
                                  again…
                                  and
                                  that
                                  and
                                  that
                                  were
                                  it
                                  that
                                  kinda did it
                                  for
                                  us.
                                  
                            Full Transcript:
My
                                  name
                                  is
                                  Julie.
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  going
                                  to
                                  I
                                  think
                                  it
                                  was
                                  Mr
                                  Gee’s
                                  and
                                  remember
                                  a
                                  DJ
                                  in
                                  there
                                  playing
                                  Helyom
                                  Halib
                                  by
                                  Cappella
                                  and
                                  I
                                  thought
                                  I
                                  like
                                  this…
                                  this is
                                  great
                                  and
                                  then
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  how
                                  but
                                  we
                                  ended
                                  up
                                  from
                                  there
                                  going
                                  to
                                  Crackers
                                  upstairs
                                  went
                                  there
                                  a
                                  couple
                                  of
                                  times
                                  loved
                                  it
                                  really
                                  hot,
                                  sweaty,
                                  dripping
                                  wet
                                  through
                                  from
                                  the
                                  ceiling
                                  steamy
                                  hot
                                  place
                                  boiling
                                  but
                                  really
                                  good,
                                  and
                                  then
                                  but
                                  we
                                  only
                                  went
                                  twice
                                  because
                                  then
                                  I
                                  think
                                  it
                                  moved
                                  it
                                  Sett
                                  End
                                  from
                                  then
                                  and
                                  then
                                  that’s
                                  when
                                  it
                                  all
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  began
                                  for
                                  me
                                  and
                                  my
                                  friend
                                  at
                                  the
                                  time.
                                  What
                                  was
                                  that…
                                  was
                                  it…
                                  we
                                  went
                                  to
                                  Sett
                                  End
                                  and
                                  then
                                  our
                                  first
                                  warehouse 
                                  party
                                  was
                                  at
                                  it
                                  was
                                  in
                                  Lower
                                  Darwen
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  it
                                  was
                                  the…
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  went
                                  in…
                                  you
                                  went
                                  in…
                                  think
                                  that
                                  it
                                  was
                                  very
                                  narrow
                                  concrete
                                  corridors
                                  and
                                  they
                                  will
                                  seem
                                  to
                                  be
                                  candles
                                  all
                                  the
                                  way
                                  along
                                  and
                                  I’ll never
                                  forget
                                  because
                                  it
                                  was
                                  the
                                  very
                                  first
                                  one
                                  I
                                  went
                                  to
                                  and
                                  I’d
                                  only
                                  been
                                  drinking
                                  a…
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  of
                                  vodka
                                  and
                                  a
                                  coke
                                  and
                                  that’s
                                  all
                                  remember…
                                  all
                                  these
                                  candles
                                  going
                                  all
                                  the
                                  way
                                  along…
                                  it
                                  was
                                  very
                                  dark
                                  and
                                  then
                                  we
                                  come
                                  out
                                  and
                                  it
                                  was
                                  a
                                  big
                                  warehouse,
                                  obviously
                                  it
                                  was
                                  pitch
                                  black
                                  so
                                  you
                                  can’t
                                  really
                                  see
                                  much…
                                  little
                                  light…
                                  with
                                  like
                                  tiny
                                  lights
                                  little
                                  strobes
                                  and
                                  things
                                  up
                                  at
                                  the
                                  top
                                  and
                                  I
                                  think
                                  Charles
                                  B
                                  Lack
                                  of
                                  Love 
                                  played
                                  and
                                  it
                                  was
                                  and
                                  E-Zee
                                  Possé
                                  Everything
                                  Starts
                                  with
                                  an
                                  E
                                  and
                                  me and
                                  my
                                  friend
                                  lots
                                  of
                                  each
                                  other
                                  we
                                  were
                                  like
                                  wow.
                                  What
                                  is
                                  this?
                                  This
                                  is
                                  brilliant
                                  that
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  it
                                  blew
                                  our
                                  minds
                                  blew
                                  our
                                  minds
                                  and
                                  the
                                  atmosphere
                                  and
                                  everything
                                  were
                                  it
                                  were
                                  brilliant
                                  and
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  then
                                  it
                                  got
                                  busted
                                  by
                                  police….
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  the…
                                  they
                                  beat
                                  the
                                  doors
                                  down
                                  with
                                  an
                                  axe
                                  or
                                  something
                                  and
                                  I heard 
                                  somebody
                                  say
                                  everybody
                                  out
                                  back.
                                  We
                                  all
                                  had
                                  to
                                  push 
                                  We
                                  all
                                  got
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  like
                                  reminded
                                  me
                                  of
                                  Hillsborough
                                  a bit…
                                  it
                                  was
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  like
                                  everybody
                                  got
                                  pushed
                                  to
                                  the
                                  front
                                  door
                                  I felt
                                  I
                                  thought
                                  I
                                  were
                                  gonna
                                  get
                                  crushed
                                  and
                                  I
                                  think
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  whether
                                  they
                                  bashed
                                  the
                                  doors
                                  down
                                  with
                                  an
                                  axe
                                  or
                                  something.
                                  They
                                  burst
                                  in
                                  the
                                  had
                                  riot
                                  shields
                                  helmets
                                  Alsatian
                                  dogs
                                  and
                                  they
                                  were
                                  like
                                  EVERYBODY 
                                  OUT
                                  and
                                  I’m
                                  sure
                                  that’s
                                  the
                                  party
                                  that
                                  Tony
                                  Kreft
                                  shouted
                                  I
                                  remember him
                                  shouting…
                                  The
                                  bastards
                                  have
                                  took
                                  the
                                  decks.
                                  But
                                  this
                                  was
                                  like…
                                  this
                                  was
                                  like
                                  a
                                  few
                                  hours
                                  later
                                  so
                                  it’s
                                  been
                                  going
                                  for
                                  quite
                                  some
                                  time
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  looking
                                  up
                                  and
                                  it
                                  was…
                                  I’m
                                  sure
                                  it
                                  was
                                  like
                                  a
                                  zig…
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  those
                                  really
                                  old
                                  warehouses
                                  where
                                  factories
                                  where
                                  they had
                                  like
                                  a
                                  glass
                                  ceiling
                                  that
                                  was
                                  Yeah like a zigzag
                                  zigzag-ceiling
                                  and
                                  there
                                  were
                                  somebody
                                  crawling
                                  across
                                  the
                                  roof
                                  I don’t
                                  know if
                                  that were
                                  police
                                  looking
                                  to
                                  see
                                  how
                                  many
                                  people
                                  were
                                  in
                                  but
                                  I
                                  could
                                  see…
                                  see
                                  somebody
                                  up
                                  there
                                  before
                                  that…
                                  before
                                  they
                                  brought
                                  the
                                  doors
                                  down
                                  and
                                  they
                                  just
                                  might
                                  let
                                  EVERYBODY
                                  OUT
                                  AND
                                  obviously
                                  we’ve
                                  got
                                  kicked
                                  out
                                  and
                                  we
                                  thought
                                  wow,
                                  that
                                  would
                                  be
                                  brilliant
                                  would
                                  have
                                  to
                                  do
                                  that
                                  again…
                                  and
                                  that
                                  and
                                  that
                                  were
                                  it
                                  that
                                  kinda did it
                                  for
                                  us.
                                  
                          Julie Bad Memories
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We
                                  once
                                  got
                                  led
                                  up a
                                  garden
                                  path…
                                  I
                                  think
                                  it
                                  was…
                                  it
                                  must
                                  have
                                  been
                                  a
                                  false   
                                  convoy
                                  and we
                                  ended
                                  up
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  if
                                  it
                                  would
                                  Tockholes
                                  or
                                  somewhere.
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  we
                                  ended
                                  down
                                  this
                                  dirt
                                  track
                                  lots
                                  of
                                  us
                                  and
                                  then
                                  the
                                  police
                                  blocked
                                  off
                                  1
                                  end
                                  and
                                  then
                                  they
                                  blocked
                                  off
                                  the
                                  other
                                  end
                                  and
                                  they
                                  decided
                                  to
                                  search
                                  all
                                  the
                                  cars
                                  and
                                  vans…
                                  and
                                  this
                                  lad
                                  that
                                  was
                                  in
                                  the
                                  van
                                  had dropped
                                  some
                                  weed
                                  on
                                  the
                                  floor
                                  and
                                  it
                                  was
                                  like…
                                  a
                                  quite
                                  a
                                  big
                                  chunk
                                  of
                                  weed
                                  on
                                  the
                                  floor.
                                  So
                                  I’m
                                  hiding
                                  the
                                  back
                                  of
                                  this
                                  van
                                  the
                                  door
                                  opens
                                  and
                                  I’m
                                  like
                                  this
                                  and
                                  there’s
                                  a
                                  policeman
                                  there
                                  and
                                  I’m
                                  like…
                                  oh
                                  hello
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  thing.
                                  Anyway,
                                  they
                                  got
                                  the
                                  sniffer
                                  dog
                                  and
                                  I’m
                                  thinking
                                  oh
                                  my
                                  God
                                  sniffer
                                  dog…
                                  sniffer
                                  dog
                                  went
                                  in
                                  it
                                  and
                                  never
                                  found
                                  it.
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  how
                                  it
                                  never
                                  found
                                  it,
                                  but
                                  it
                                  never
                                  found
                                  it
                                  because
                                  it
                                  was
                                  a
                                  lot
                                  of
                                  electrical
                                  equipment
                                  in
                                  the
                                  back
                                  wires
                                  it
                                  were
                                  full
                                  of
                                  stuff
                                  that
                                  it
                                  wasn’t
                                  organised.
                                  it
                                  was
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  organised
                                  chaos.
                                  It
                                  was
                                  so…
                                  that’s
                                  probably
                                  why
                                  it
                                  didn’t
                                  find
                                  it…
                                  but
                                  I
                                  was
                                  like
                                  so…
                                  so
                                  relieved
                                  and
                                  then
                                  this
                                  policeman
                                  said
                                  like
                                  what
                                  are
                                  you
                                  doing
                                  in…
                                  you
                                  know
                                  the back of
                                  he said…
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  you
                                  shouldn’t
                                  really
                                  be
                                  in
                                  the
                                  back
                                  of
                                  here
                                  because
                                  you’re
                                  not…
                                  it’s
                                  not
                                  a
                                  passenger
                                  vehicle,
                                  you
                                  shouldn’t
                                  really
                                  be
                                  in
                                  the
                                  back
                                  of
                                  here
                                  and
                                  I
                                  said,
                                  well,
                                  I’ve
                                  no
                                  way
                                  of
                                  getting
                                  home
                                  now
                                  and
                                  he
                                  said
                                  well,
                                  go
                                  on
                                  we’ll
                                  we’ll
                                  let
                                  you
                                  off
                                  this
                                  time.
                                  He
                                  said
                                  but
                                  in
                                  future
                                  don’t
                                  get
                                  in
                                  the
                                  back
                                  of
                                  that
                                  van
                                  and
                                  then
                                  obviously,
                                  the
                                  week
                                  after
                                  I
                                  got
                                  back
                                  in
                                  the
                                  back
                                  of
                                  the
                                  van.
                                  
                            Full Transcript:
We
                                  once
                                  got
                                  led
                                  up a
                                  garden
                                  path…
                                  I
                                  think
                                  it
                                  was…
                                  it
                                  must
                                  have
                                  been
                                  a
                                  false   
                                  convoy
                                  and we
                                  ended
                                  up
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  if
                                  it
                                  would
                                  Tockholes
                                  or
                                  somewhere.
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  we
                                  ended
                                  down
                                  this
                                  dirt
                                  track
                                  lots
                                  of
                                  us
                                  and
                                  then
                                  the
                                  police
                                  blocked
                                  off
                                  1
                                  end
                                  and
                                  then
                                  they
                                  blocked
                                  off
                                  the
                                  other
                                  end
                                  and
                                  they
                                  decided
                                  to
                                  search
                                  all
                                  the
                                  cars
                                  and
                                  vans…
                                  and
                                  this
                                  lad
                                  that
                                  was
                                  in
                                  the
                                  van
                                  had dropped
                                  some
                                  weed
                                  on
                                  the
                                  floor
                                  and
                                  it
                                  was
                                  like…
                                  a
                                  quite
                                  a
                                  big
                                  chunk
                                  of
                                  weed
                                  on
                                  the
                                  floor.
                                  So
                                  I’m
                                  hiding
                                  the
                                  back
                                  of
                                  this
                                  van
                                  the
                                  door
                                  opens
                                  and
                                  I’m
                                  like
                                  this
                                  and
                                  there’s
                                  a
                                  policeman
                                  there
                                  and
                                  I’m
                                  like…
                                  oh
                                  hello
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  thing.
                                  Anyway,
                                  they
                                  got
                                  the
                                  sniffer
                                  dog
                                  and
                                  I’m
                                  thinking
                                  oh
                                  my
                                  God
                                  sniffer
                                  dog…
                                  sniffer
                                  dog
                                  went
                                  in
                                  it
                                  and
                                  never
                                  found
                                  it.
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  how
                                  it
                                  never
                                  found
                                  it,
                                  but
                                  it
                                  never
                                  found
                                  it
                                  because
                                  it
                                  was
                                  a
                                  lot
                                  of
                                  electrical
                                  equipment
                                  in
                                  the
                                  back
                                  wires
                                  it
                                  were
                                  full
                                  of
                                  stuff
                                  that
                                  it
                                  wasn’t
                                  organised.
                                  it
                                  was
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  organised
                                  chaos.
                                  It
                                  was
                                  so…
                                  that’s
                                  probably
                                  why
                                  it
                                  didn’t
                                  find
                                  it…
                                  but
                                  I
                                  was
                                  like
                                  so…
                                  so
                                  relieved
                                  and
                                  then
                                  this
                                  policeman
                                  said
                                  like
                                  what
                                  are
                                  you
                                  doing
                                  in…
                                  you
                                  know
                                  the back of
                                  he said…
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  you
                                  shouldn’t
                                  really
                                  be
                                  in
                                  the
                                  back
                                  of
                                  here
                                  because
                                  you’re
                                  not…
                                  it’s
                                  not
                                  a
                                  passenger
                                  vehicle,
                                  you
                                  shouldn’t
                                  really
                                  be
                                  in
                                  the
                                  back
                                  of
                                  here
                                  and
                                  I
                                  said,
                                  well,
                                  I’ve
                                  no
                                  way
                                  of
                                  getting
                                  home
                                  now
                                  and
                                  he
                                  said
                                  well,
                                  go
                                  on
                                  we’ll
                                  we’ll
                                  let
                                  you
                                  off
                                  this
                                  time.
                                  He
                                  said
                                  but
                                  in
                                  future
                                  don’t
                                  get
                                  in
                                  the
                                  back
                                  of
                                  that
                                  van
                                  and
                                  then
                                  obviously,
                                  the
                                  week
                                  after
                                  I
                                  got
                                  back
                                  in
                                  the
                                  back
                                  of
                                  the
                                  van.
                                  
                          Julie Good Memories Part 1
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The
                                  best
                                  part
                                  about
                                  it
                                  was
                                  I
                                  think
                                  is
                                  that
                                  at one
                                  time
                                  Blackburn
                                  was
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  divided
                                  there
                                  were
                                  lots
                                  of
                                  different
                                  areas
                                  in
                                  Blackburn
                                  that
                                  were
                                  all
                                  divided
                                  you
                                  had
                                  Mill
                                  Hill.
                                  ye had,
                                  Infirmary
                                  area.
                                  ye’ had,
                                  Queens
                                  Park
                                  area.
                                  ye’ had,
                                  Blackburn
                                  Youth
                                  you had
                                  all
                                  these
                                  different
                                  groups
                                  and
                                  they
                                  used
                                  to
                                  be
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  of
                                  trouble
                                  as
                                  well.
                                  I
                                  used
                                  to go to
                                  King
                                  George’s Hall
                                  on
                                  a
                                  Monday
                                  night
                                  and
                                  there
                                  Monday night
                                  Madness…
                                  used
                                  to
                                  be
                                  chairs
                                  flying
                                  across
                                  the
                                  room
                                  and
                                  things
                                  like
                                  that.
                                  I remember
                                  do
                                  you
                                  know
                                  that
                                  and
                                  then
                                  that
                                  just
                                  all
                                  stopped
                                  there
                                  were
                                  no,
                                  trouble
                                  everybody
                                  knew
                                  everybody
                                  if
                                  you
                                  knew
                                  so
                                  if
                                  you
                                  went
                                  to
                                  a
                                  party
                                  and
                                  it
                                  wasn’t
                                  the
                                  right
                                  1
                                  or
                                  somet’
                                  you
                                  knew
                                  it
                                  were
                                  the
                                  right
                                  1
                                  because
                                  there
                                  wasn’t
                                  anybody
                                  there
                                  you
                                  that,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  you
                                  didn’t
                                  know
                                  so
                                  if
                                  you
                                  were
                                  at
                                  somewhere
                                  where you
                                  didn’t
                                  know
                                  anybody
                                  you
                                  where  
                                  at the
                                  wrong
                                  1
                                  because
                                  you
                                  know
                                  everybody
                                  every
                                  time
                                  that’s
                                  one
                                  of
                                  my
                                  fondest
                                  memories
                                  really
                                  is
                                  and
                                  and
                                  just
                                  the
                                  atmosphere
                                  of…
                                  of
                                  being
                                  in
                                  that…
                                  in
                                  a
                                  warehouse
                                  the
                                  sound
                                  the
                                  mood
                                  the…
                                  it’s…
                                  I
                                  can
                                  still
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  feel
                                  that
                                  and
                                  remember
                                  that
                                  all
                                  this
                                  time
                                  that
                                  you…
                                  you
                                  can…
                                  and
                                  you
                                  can
                                  never
                                  replace
                                  it.
                                  You
                                  can
                                  never
                                  recreate
                                  it.
                                  It’s
                                  gone
                                  it
                                  happened
                                  and
                                  it
                                  was
                                  just
                                  the
                                  whole
                                  the
                                  music,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  and
                                  if
                                  anybody
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  anybody
                                  would
                                  do
                                  anything
                                  for
                                  you… 
                                  if
                                  you
                                  need
                                  a
                                  lift
                                  somewhere
                                  or
                                  it
                                  would
                                  be
                                  like
                                  I
                                  suppose it were
                                  like
                                  the hip…
                                  60s
                                  hippies
                                  like
                                  bit
                                  of
                                  peace
                                  and
                                  love
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  thing
                                  and
                                  that’s
                                  what
                                  it
                                  was.
                                  
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The
                                  best
                                  part
                                  about
                                  it
                                  was
                                  I
                                  think
                                  is
                                  that
                                  at one
                                  time
                                  Blackburn
                                  was
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  divided
                                  there
                                  were
                                  lots
                                  of
                                  different
                                  areas
                                  in
                                  Blackburn
                                  that
                                  were
                                  all
                                  divided
                                  you
                                  had
                                  Mill
                                  Hill.
                                  ye had,
                                  Infirmary
                                  area.
                                  ye’ had,
                                  Queens
                                  Park
                                  area.
                                  ye’ had,
                                  Blackburn
                                  Youth
                                  you had
                                  all
                                  these
                                  different
                                  groups
                                  and
                                  they
                                  used
                                  to
                                  be
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  of
                                  trouble
                                  as
                                  well.
                                  I
                                  used
                                  to go to
                                  King
                                  George’s Hall
                                  on
                                  a
                                  Monday
                                  night
                                  and
                                  there
                                  Monday night
                                  Madness…
                                  used
                                  to
                                  be
                                  chairs
                                  flying
                                  across
                                  the
                                  room
                                  and
                                  things
                                  like
                                  that.
                                  I remember
                                  do
                                  you
                                  know
                                  that
                                  and
                                  then
                                  that
                                  just
                                  all
                                  stopped
                                  there
                                  were
                                  no,
                                  trouble
                                  everybody
                                  knew
                                  everybody
                                  if
                                  you
                                  knew
                                  so
                                  if
                                  you
                                  went
                                  to
                                  a
                                  party
                                  and
                                  it
                                  wasn’t
                                  the
                                  right
                                  1
                                  or
                                  somet’
                                  you
                                  knew
                                  it
                                  were
                                  the
                                  right
                                  1
                                  because
                                  there
                                  wasn’t
                                  anybody
                                  there
                                  you
                                  that,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  you
                                  didn’t
                                  know
                                  so
                                  if
                                  you
                                  were
                                  at
                                  somewhere
                                  where you
                                  didn’t
                                  know
                                  anybody
                                  you
                                  where  
                                  at the
                                  wrong
                                  1
                                  because
                                  you
                                  know
                                  everybody
                                  every
                                  time
                                  that’s
                                  one
                                  of
                                  my
                                  fondest
                                  memories
                                  really
                                  is
                                  and
                                  and
                                  just
                                  the
                                  atmosphere
                                  of…
                                  of
                                  being
                                  in
                                  that…
                                  in
                                  a
                                  warehouse
                                  the
                                  sound
                                  the
                                  mood
                                  the…
                                  it’s…
                                  I
                                  can
                                  still
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  feel
                                  that
                                  and
                                  remember
                                  that
                                  all
                                  this
                                  time
                                  that
                                  you…
                                  you
                                  can…
                                  and
                                  you
                                  can
                                  never
                                  replace
                                  it.
                                  You
                                  can
                                  never
                                  recreate
                                  it.
                                  It’s
                                  gone
                                  it
                                  happened
                                  and
                                  it
                                  was
                                  just
                                  the
                                  whole
                                  the
                                  music,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  and
                                  if
                                  anybody
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  anybody
                                  would
                                  do
                                  anything
                                  for
                                  you… 
                                  if
                                  you
                                  need
                                  a
                                  lift
                                  somewhere
                                  or
                                  it
                                  would
                                  be
                                  like
                                  I
                                  suppose it were
                                  like
                                  the hip…
                                  60s
                                  hippies
                                  like
                                  bit
                                  of
                                  peace
                                  and
                                  love
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  thing
                                  and
                                  that’s
                                  what
                                  it
                                  was.
                                  
                          Julie Good Memories Part 2
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I liked
                                  Ewood
                                  Mill
                                  I’ll always
                                  remember
                                  because
                                  there
                                  were
                                  2
                                  there
                                  one
                                  week
                                  after
                                  the other
                                  and
                                  Ste 
                                  well,
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know…
                                  Ste 
                                  who were
                                  talking
                                  about
                                  he
                                  dressed
                                  in
                                  a
                                  red
                                  devil
                                  suit
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  him
                                  New
                                  year
                                  Eve
                                  he
                                  had
                                  a
                                  big
                                  red
                                  devil
                                  suit
                                  on…
                                  he
                                  must
                                  have
                                  hired
                                  it
                                  a
                                  big
                                  furry
                                  it
                                  was
                                  absolutely
                                  roasting,
                                  sweating
                                  like
                                  I don’t
                                  know
                                  what
                                  with
                                  this
                                  big
                                  red
                                  devil
                                  suit
                                  on
                                  …
                                  New
                                  Years
                                  Eve
                                  he
                                  must’ve
                                  decided
                                  to
                                  dress
                                  up
                                  like
                                  that
                                  were
                                  fond
                                  memories
                                  and
                                  jumping
                                  in
                                  back
                                  of
                                  his
                                  van.
                                  
                            Full Transcript:
I liked
                                  Ewood
                                  Mill
                                  I’ll always
                                  remember
                                  because
                                  there
                                  were
                                  2
                                  there
                                  one
                                  week
                                  after
                                  the other
                                  and
                                  Ste 
                                  well,
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know…
                                  Ste 
                                  who were
                                  talking
                                  about
                                  he
                                  dressed
                                  in
                                  a
                                  red
                                  devil
                                  suit
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  him
                                  New
                                  year
                                  Eve
                                  he
                                  had
                                  a
                                  big
                                  red
                                  devil
                                  suit
                                  on…
                                  he
                                  must
                                  have
                                  hired
                                  it
                                  a
                                  big
                                  furry
                                  it
                                  was
                                  absolutely
                                  roasting,
                                  sweating
                                  like
                                  I don’t
                                  know
                                  what
                                  with
                                  this
                                  big
                                  red
                                  devil
                                  suit
                                  on
                                  …
                                  New
                                  Years
                                  Eve
                                  he
                                  must’ve
                                  decided
                                  to
                                  dress
                                  up
                                  like
                                  that
                                  were
                                  fond
                                  memories
                                  and
                                  jumping
                                  in
                                  back
                                  of
                                  his
                                  van.
                                  
                          Julie Good Memories Part 3
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So
                                  well
                                  it
                                  were 
                                  like
                                  89
                                  I
                                  was
                                  like
                                  17
                                  going
                                  on
                                  18,
                                  Right
                                  and
                                  you
                                  just
                                  said
                                  you’re
                                  on
                                  a
                                  Y.T.S
                                  Yeah 
                                  Which
                                  was
                                  27
                                  pound
                                  a
                                  week.
                                  Yeah,
                                  And
                                  I
                                  think
                                  it
                                  went
                                  up
                                  to
                                  35
                                  if
                                  you
                                  stayed
                                  on
                                  for
                                  a
                                  second
                                  year
                                  didn’t
                                  it?
                                  Yeah 
                                  Or something like that
                                  Yeah 
                                  Because
                                  I
                                  was
                                  doing
                                  the
                                  same
                                  and
                                  yeah,
                                  well,
                                  what
                                  was…
                                  what
                                  was
                                  Blackburn
                                  like
                                  at
                                  the
                                  time
                                  you’ve
                                  got…
                                  if
                                  you’re
                                  on
                                  27
                                  …
                                  a
                                  week
                                  it’s
                                  the
                                  80s
                                  in
                                  Blackburn.
                                  Oh,
                                  yeah
                                  Blackburn 
                                  was
                                  busy
                                  wasn’t
                                  it
                                  but
                                  what
                                  else
                                  would
                                  well,
                                  what
                                  did
                                  you
                                  think
                                  it…
                                  was
                                  it…
                                  was
                                  it…
                                  a
                                  poor
                                  town?
                                  Oh 
                                  yeah.
                                  Or
                                  was it
                                  an okay
                                  town?
                                  I
                                  mean
                                  obviously
                                  it
                                  had
                                  a
                                  really
                                  good
                                  night
                                  life
                                  always
                                  had
                                  a
                                  good
                                  reputation
                                  of
                                  a
                                  really
                                  good
                                  night
                                  life
                                  so 
                                  even
                                  before
                                  the
                                  parties
                                  came,
                                  it
                                  was
                                  pub
                                  crawls
                                  nightclubs
                                  and there
                                  were a
                                  few
                                  nightclubs
                                  to
                                  go
                                  to
                                  weren’t there.
                                  There
                                  were
                                  Ce La Vie
                                  there
                                  were
                                  Mr G’s
                                  …
                                  there
                                  were
                                  Peppermint Place
                                  which
                                  changed
                                  its
                                  name
                                  a
                                  few
                                  times
                                  And it was
                                  there
                                  was
                                  Manhattan
                                  Heights
                                  as
                                  well
                                  which were
                                  brilliant
                                  that
                                  was
                                  another.
                                  Yeah
                                  good…
                                  really
                                  good
                                  place
                                  to
                                  go.
                                  And
                                  it
                                  was
                                  busy
                                  Thursday
                                  Friday
                                  Saturday.
                                  Yeah
                                  I were
                                  out
                                  nearly
                                  every
                                  night
                                  apart from
                                  bar
                                  one.
                                  I were
                                  out
                                  nearly
                                  every
                                  night
                                  bar
                                  one.
                                  Bar 
                                  1?
                                  Bar 
                                  one…
                                  night
                                  you
                                  know.
                                  Oh right.
                                  Sorry.
                                  I
                                  know…
                                  I
                                  know.
                                  Yeah
                                  probably
                                  1
                                  night
                                  a week
                                  I wouldn’t
                                  go
                                  out
                                  but
                                  most of
                                  the time
                                  we
                                  did
                                  and
                                  we
                                  just
                                  bought
                                  a little bottles
                                  of
                                  vodka
                                  and
                                  a
                                  coke
                                  and
                                  Yeah
                                  on
                                  27
                                  …
                                  a
                                  week
                                  you could
                                  do it
                                  Yeah,
                                  that’s
                                  how
                                  you
                                  did
                                  it
                                  you
                                  drank
                                  before
                                  you
                                  went
                                  out
                                  and
                                  then
                                  I
                                  think
                                  Mr G’s
                                  …
                                  had
                                  like
                                  doubles
                                  for
                                  a
                                  pound
                                  and..
                                  yeah.
                                  Things
                                  like
                                  that
                                  and
                                  yeah,
                                  we used
                                  to get
                                  our
                                  clothes off
                                  market
                                  fer a
                                  fiver
                                  for
                                  this
                                  and
                                  a
                                  fiver for
                                  that
                                  and
                                  I
                                  worked
                                  on an
                                  ice
                                  cream
                                  van
                                  as well
                                  at
                                  weekend.
                                  You
                                  worked
                                  on
                                  an
                                  ice-cream
                                  van?
                                  At
                                  weekend.
                                  Wow.
                                  Yeah,
                                  Where abouts
                                  just
                                  in
                                  Blackburn?
                                  Yeah,
                                  with…
                                  no
                                  till…
                                  no 
                                  nothing
                                  just
                                  all
                                  mental
                                  maths
                                  and
                                  in ye’ head.
                                  No
                                  way
                                  that’s
                                  fantastic.
                                  I
                                  used to
                                  work on that
                                  and go
                                  parties
                                  and
                                  then
                                  day
                                  after
                                  go
                                  home
                                  at
                                  10
                                  o’clock
                                  at
                                  morning
                                  and
                                  then
                                  get
                                  up
                                  at
                                  12
                                  and
                                  then
                                  go
                                  on
                                  ice
                                  cream
                                  van
                                  at
                                  1…
                                  have
                                  a
                                  couple
                                  of
                                  hours
                                  sleep
                                  and
                                  then
                                  go out.
                                  No way
                                  do a
                                  tour
                                  of
                                  Blackburn.
                                  Yeah 
                                  That’s
                                  amazing…
                                  wow.
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  how
                                  I
                                  did
                                  it.
                                  But
                                  you
                                  had
                                  to…
                                  but
                                  you
                                  have
                                  to
                                  do
                                  didn’t
                                  you…
                                  which was?
                                  Well
                                  that’s
                                  it
                                  that
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  that’s
                                  how
                                  you
                                  pay
                                  for
                                  things though
                                  innit
                                  because
                                  I used
                                  to
                                  buy
                                  records
                                  every
                                  week
                                  12-inch
                                  singles
                                  every
                                  week.
                                  I
                                  mean
                                  some
                                  of
                                  them
                                  back
                                  then
                                  like
                                  white
                                  labels
                                  were like
                                  15
                                  quid
                                  well
                                  that
                                  I
                                  mean
                                  15
                                  quid
                                  now
                                  is
                                  a
                                  lot
                                  of
                                  money
                                  but back
                                  then
                                  it
                                  was
                                  a
                                  Yeah
                                  it
                                  was
                                  really
                                  expensive
                                  wasn’t
                                  it.
                                  Well
                                  I didn’t
                                  buy
                                  15
                                  one
                                  every week
                                  week
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  just
                                  the
                                  odd…
                                  So
                                  why
                                  didn’t
                                  become
                                  a
                                  DJ?
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  Well
                                  probably
                                  because
                                  you
                                  weren’t
                                  allowed.
                                  Probably
                                  not.
                                  But
                                  it’s
                                  interesting
                                  I’ve
                                  not
                                  met
                                  anybody
                                  else
                                  who
                                  said…
                                  Yeah,
                                  every week
                                  I bought..
                                  said 
                                  I bought
                                  12 inch
                                  every
                                  week.
                                  A 12 inch?
                                  At 
                                  least
                                  one
                                  every
                                  week
                                  and
                                  you
                                  used to
                                  have
                                  to
                                  order
                                  them
                                  as
                                  well.
                                  That’s
                                  very interesting
                                  Because
                                  of
                                  Italian
                                  import
                                  some
                                  stuff
                                  weren’t it
                                  Yeah, they were
                                  this
                                  is
                                  interesting
                                  because
                                  you
                                  didn’t
                                  really
                                  know,
                                  well 
                                  if
                                  you
                                  went
                                  to
                                  the
                                  only
                                  way
                                  to
                                  do
                                  it
                                  was
                                  to
                                  listen
                                  wasn’t
                                  it?
                                  Listen 
                                  and 
                                  then
                                  I
                                  ask
                                  Lee
                                  Stan…
                                  What’s
                                  this
                                  called?
                                  What’s
                                  the
                                  name
                                  of
                                  it
                                  and
                                  somehow
                                  I
                                  remembered
                                  it.
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  how
                                  I
                                  even
                                  remember
                                  the
                                  name
                                  of
                                  the
                                  tune,
                                  but
                                  it
                                  were
                                  in
                                  there
                                  and
                                  then
                                  I
                                  go
                                  down
                                  the
                                  following
                                  week
                                  and
                                  go buy it.
                                  I
                                  didn’t
                                  have
                                  a
                                  right
                                  lot.
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know.
                                  I might of
                                  had
                                  about
                                  about
                                  200
                                  or
                                  something
                                  like
                                  that
                                  not…
                                  that’s
                                  a
                                  lot.
                                  I don’t know
                                  maybe…
                                  maybe
                                  about
                                  100
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know.
                                  It
                                  were..
                                  I
                                  had
                                  a
                                  quite
                                  a
                                  lot
                                  and
                                  I
                                  know
                                  I
                                  can
                                  see
                                  a
                                  record
                                  sleeve
                                  now
                                  and I
                                  know
                                  what
                                  song
                                  that
                                  is
                                  even
                                  now
                                  I
                                  could…
                                  I
                                  could
                                  probably
                                  say
                                  yeah,
                                  I
                                  know…
                                  I
                                  know
                                  what
                                  that
                                  is.
                                  But
                                  do
                                  you
                                  not
                                  think
                                  it
                                  was
                                  interesting
                                  music
                                  because
                                  it
                                  didn’t
                                  really
                                  have
                                  a
                                  image
                                  with
                                  it
                                  did
                                  it
                                  didn’t
                                  get
                                  a
                                  …
                                  poster…
                                  they
                                  weren’t
                                  in
                                  Smash
                                  Hits
                                  you
                                  didn’t
                                  know
                                  who they
                                  were
                                  did you?
                                  No.
                                  And they
                                  weren’t
                                  really
                                  selling
                                  themselves,
                                  their
                                  egos,
                                  it
                                  was
                                  just
                                  the
                                  music
                                  wasn’t
                                  it?
                                  Yeah
                                  You
                                  didn’t…
                                  Yeah
                                  know
                                  who they
                                  were
                                  never
                                  heard of ’em
                                  especially…
                                  and
                                  even
                                  the
                                  same
                                  people
                                  they
                                  bring…
                                  bring
                                  out
                                  3
                                  12 inch
                                  …
                                  and
                                  but
                                  they’d
                                  been
                                  under
                                  different
                                  names
                                  wouldn’t
                                  they?
                                  Yes.
                                  Cos’ that
                                  was
                                  the
                                  same
                                  guys.
                                  Yeah
                                  yeah.
                                  But
                                  that
                                  was the
                                  thing
                                  that
                                  sold
                                  it
                                  was
                                  the
                                  music
                                  wasn’t it.
                                  Yeah
                                  Which
                                  is…
                                  which
                                  is…
                                  really
                                  which
                                  is
                                  what..
                                  how
                                  it
                                  should
                                  be
                                  shouldn’t it?
                                  Oh,
                                  yeah,
                                  I mean
                                  it
                                  were
                                  brilliant
                                  and
                                  then
                                  obviously
                                  there were
                                  Manhattan 
                                  Heights
                                  as
                                  well
                                  which
                                  were
                                  which
                                  were
                                  great
                                  and
                                  even
                                  like
                                  Adamski
                                  came
                                  to
                                  Manhattan 
                                  Heights
                                  and
                                  Yeah
                                  I remember
                                  Guru
                                  Josh
                                  and
                                  there were
                                  coach
                                  loads
                                  coming
                                  from
                                  Manchester
                                  and
                                  that
                                  were
                                  brilliant
                                  as
                                  as
                                  well.
                                  and
                                  that were
                                  a good
                                  a
                                  good
                                  night
                                  That wasn’t
                                  it
                                  carried
                                  on
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  after
                                  didn’t it
                                  as
                                  well?
                                  Yeah
                                  With the….
                                  with
                                  the…
                                  Yeah.
                                  Started
                                  at the Hacienda
                                  on
                                  Thursday.
                                  nights
                                  Yeah
                                  as
                                  well.
                                  Yeah,
                                  Which
                                  was
                                  good
                                  wasn’t it.
                                  Yeah,
                                  it
                                  was
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  political
                                  as
                                  well
                                  wasn’t
                                  it,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  there
                                  was
                                  abit 
                                  much,
                                  it
                                  was
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  …
                                  anti Tory
                                  wasn’t
                                  it.
                                  …
                                  Because
                                  obviously
                                  Thatcher
                                  was
                                  the
                                  one 
                                  that
                                  …
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  there
                                  was
                                  a
                                  lot
                                  of
                                  disused
                                  mills
                                  and
                                  that’s
                                  how
                                  your
                                  music
                                  ended
                                  up
                                  in
                                  there.
                                  …
                                  Un-employment
                                  of
                                  course,
                                  un-employment
                                  and
                                  then
                                  obviously
                                  …
                                  then
                                  she
                                  brought
                                  the
                                  bills
                                  in
                                  to
                                  stop
                                  the
                                  parties
                                  and,
                                  you
                                  know
                                  the
                                  police
                                  got
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  heavy
                                  handed,
                                  a
                                  bit,
                                  and
                                  it
                                  did
                                  you
                                  know
                                  it
                                  is
                                  it
                                  does
                                  correlate
                                  with
                                  the
                                  miners
                                  and,
                                  it’s
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  that,
                                  very
                                  similar
                                  to
                                  that.
                                  I
                                  think
                                  where
                                  they
                                  got
                                  vilified
                                  and,
                                  and
                                  we
                                  got
                                  vilified
                                  as
                                  well,
                                  you
                                  know
                                  the
                                  media,
                                  the
                                  Telegraph
                                  even.
                                  I
                                  mean
                                  it
                                  made
                                  me
                                  laugh
                                  because
                                  recently
                                  the
                                  Telegraph
                                  …
                                  said,
                                  oh
                                  look
                                  at
                                  this
                                  that
                                  happened
                                  20
                                  years
                                  ago,
                                  and
                                  I
                                  thought
                                  hang
                                  on
                                  a
                                  minute
                                  you
                                  were,
                                  you
                                  were
                                  slagging
                                  everybody
                                  20
                                  years
                                  ago
                                  you
                                  were
                                  saying
                                  there
                                  were
                                  people
                                  having
                                  sex
                                  and
                                  there
                                  were
                                  all
                                  sorts
                                  of
                                  all
                                  that
                                  stuff
                                  going
                                  on
                                  and
                                  you
                                  were
                                  slagging
                                  it
                                  off.
                                  And
                                  similarly
                                  on
                                  the,
                                  Radio
                                  Lancashire
                                  were
                                  doing
                                  interviews
                                  on
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  about
                                  commemorating
                                  30
                                  years
                                  of
                                  Acid 
                                  House
                                  and
                                  they
                                  were
                                  totally
                                  against
                                  it
                                  as
                                  well
                                  all
                                  the
                                  yeah,
                                  they
                                  all 
                                  were.
                                  Yeah
                                  and
                                  they
                                  demonised
                                  us
                                  made us
                                  look
                                  bad,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  me’ Mum
                                  and Dad
                                  were
                                  like…
                                  What
                                  you
                                  doing,
                                  doing
                                  this?
                                  I said
                                  I’m
                                  not
                                  doing
                                  anything.
                                  You
                                  know
                                  what
                                  it
                                  was.
                                  It
                                  was
                                  very
                                  very
                                  political.
                                  They
                                  made
                                  a
                                  big
                                  thing
                                  of
                                  …
                                  the
                                  drug
                                  side
                                  of
                                  it
                                  but
                                  as
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  having
                                  been
                                  on
                                  20
                                  …
                                  a
                                  week.
                                  It
                                  was
                                  a
                                  lot
                                  less
                                  than
                                  people
                                  make
                                  out
                                  wasn’t
                                  it,
                                  there
                                  was
                                  a
                                  lot
                                  less
                                  of
                                  course…
                                  course,
                                  there
                                  was
                                  drugs
                                  there.
                                  But
                                  yeah
                                  there
                                  was a lot
                                  less than
                                  the media
                                  made
                                  out
                                  at
                                  the
                                  time
                                  that’s
                                  for
                                  sure.
                                  Yeah.
                                  I
                                  think
                                  it
                                  it,
                                  cos,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  at
                                  that
                                  time
                                  I
                                  was
                                  like
                                  young
                                  and
                                  impressionable
                                  and
                                  I
                                  thought
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  …
                                  …
                                  …
                                  …
                                  like
                                  Margaret
                                  Thatcher,
                                  woman
                                  Prime
                                  Minister
                                  it
                                  kinda,
                                  it
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  …
                                  a
                                  kind
                                  of,
                                  not,
                                  I
                                  didn’t
                                  idolise
                                  her, but
                                  I
                                  thought,
                                  wow
                                  a
                                  woman
                                  Prime
                                  Minister.
                                  Because
                                  obviously
                                  she
                                  was
                                  the
                                  first
                                  and
                                  last
                                  wasn’t
                                  she.
                                  So
                                  …
                                  …
                                  she
                                  was
                                  to
                                  be
                                  admired
                                  I
                                  thought
                                  until
                                  that
                                  happened
                                  and
                                  then
                                  I
                                  look
                                  back
                                  at
                                  all
                                  the
                                  things
                                  that
                                  happened
                                  and
                                  it
                                  did
                                  change
                                  my
                                  view
                                  politically
                                  because
                                  I
                                  was
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  sliding
                                  towards
                                  that
                                  way.
                                  …
                                  I
                                  was…
                                  and
                                  it’s
                                  changed
                                  me
                                  completely.
                                  I
                                  went
                                  completely
                                  the
                                  other
                                  way.
                                  I’ve
                                  gone
                                  completely
                                  the
                                  other
                                  way.
                                  I
                                  mean,
                                  I’m
                                  not
                                  really
                                  far
                                  left,
                                  but
                                  I
                                  am
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  more
                                  that
                                  way.
                                  Definitely
                                  changed
                                  me
                                  politically.
                                  Definitely.
                                  When
                                  I
                                  see
                                  like
                                  social
                                  media
                                  …
                                  and
                                  Facebook
                                  and
                                  things
                                  like
                                  that
                                  and
                                  I
                                  see
                                  like
                                  Mixmag
                                  post
                                  stuff
                                  and
                                  things
                                  like
                                  that
                                  and
                                  if
                                  I
                                  ever
                                  see
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  racist
                                  comments
                                  or…
                                  and
                                  I
                                  think
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  did
                                  you
                                  really
                                  understand
                                  what
                                  that
                                  scene
                                  was
                                  about?
                                  These
                                  are
                                  people
                                  from
                                  that
                                  scene
                                  and
                                  from
                                  what
                                  happened
                                  back
                                  then.
                                  And
                                  I
                                  think
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  do
                                  you
                                  really
                                  truly
                                  remember
                                  what
                                  that
                                  was
                                  about,
                                  cos
                                  …
                                  I
                                  just
                                  can’t
                                  believe
                                  that
                                  you’ve
                                  got
                                  those
                                  political
                                  views
                                  and
                                  those
                                  views
                                  about,
                                  I
                                  can’t
                                  understand
                                  it,
                                  it
                                  I
                                  can’t,
                                  and
                                  that’s
                                  what
                                  I
                                  see
                                  today
                                  I
                                  think
                                  it’s…
                                  So my
                                  message
                                  for
                                  young
                                  people
                                  is,
                                  is
                                  don’t,
                                  don’t
                                  ever
                                  judge
                                  a
                                  book
                                  by
                                  it’s
                                  cover
                                  …
                                  …
                                  Don’t
                                  believe
                                  everything
                                  you
                                  hear
                                  or
                                  read
                                  or
                                  see,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  because
                                  there’s,
                                  you’ve
                                  to
                                  kinda
                                  be
                                  in
                                  it
                                  to
                                  kinda
                                  believe 
                                  it
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  thing.
                                  Yeah,
                                  you
                                  have
                                  to
                                  be
                                  there
                                  to
                                  see
                                  what,
                                  to
                                  appreciate
                                  it.
                                  Yeah.
                                  Don’t
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  don’t
                                  knock
                                  it
                                  till
                                  you’ve
                                  tried
                                  it.
                                  
                            Full Transcript:
So
                                  well
                                  it
                                  were 
                                  like
                                  89
                                  I
                                  was
                                  like
                                  17
                                  going
                                  on
                                  18,
                                  Right
                                  and
                                  you
                                  just
                                  said
                                  you’re
                                  on
                                  a
                                  Y.T.S
                                  Yeah 
                                  Which
                                  was
                                  27
                                  pound
                                  a
                                  week.
                                  Yeah,
                                  And
                                  I
                                  think
                                  it
                                  went
                                  up
                                  to
                                  35
                                  if
                                  you
                                  stayed
                                  on
                                  for
                                  a
                                  second
                                  year
                                  didn’t
                                  it?
                                  Yeah 
                                  Or something like that
                                  Yeah 
                                  Because
                                  I
                                  was
                                  doing
                                  the
                                  same
                                  and
                                  yeah,
                                  well,
                                  what
                                  was…
                                  what
                                  was
                                  Blackburn
                                  like
                                  at
                                  the
                                  time
                                  you’ve
                                  got…
                                  if
                                  you’re
                                  on
                                  27
                                  …
                                  a
                                  week
                                  it’s
                                  the
                                  80s
                                  in
                                  Blackburn.
                                  Oh,
                                  yeah
                                  Blackburn 
                                  was
                                  busy
                                  wasn’t
                                  it
                                  but
                                  what
                                  else
                                  would
                                  well,
                                  what
                                  did
                                  you
                                  think
                                  it…
                                  was
                                  it…
                                  was
                                  it…
                                  a
                                  poor
                                  town?
                                  Oh 
                                  yeah.
                                  Or
                                  was it
                                  an okay
                                  town?
                                  I
                                  mean
                                  obviously
                                  it
                                  had
                                  a
                                  really
                                  good
                                  night
                                  life
                                  always
                                  had
                                  a
                                  good
                                  reputation
                                  of
                                  a
                                  really
                                  good
                                  night
                                  life
                                  so 
                                  even
                                  before
                                  the
                                  parties
                                  came,
                                  it
                                  was
                                  pub
                                  crawls
                                  nightclubs
                                  and there
                                  were a
                                  few
                                  nightclubs
                                  to
                                  go
                                  to
                                  weren’t there.
                                  There
                                  were
                                  Ce La Vie
                                  there
                                  were
                                  Mr G’s
                                  …
                                  there
                                  were
                                  Peppermint Place
                                  which
                                  changed
                                  its
                                  name
                                  a
                                  few
                                  times
                                  And it was
                                  there
                                  was
                                  Manhattan
                                  Heights
                                  as
                                  well
                                  which were
                                  brilliant
                                  that
                                  was
                                  another.
                                  Yeah
                                  good…
                                  really
                                  good
                                  place
                                  to
                                  go.
                                  And
                                  it
                                  was
                                  busy
                                  Thursday
                                  Friday
                                  Saturday.
                                  Yeah
                                  I were
                                  out
                                  nearly
                                  every
                                  night
                                  apart from
                                  bar
                                  one.
                                  I were
                                  out
                                  nearly
                                  every
                                  night
                                  bar
                                  one.
                                  Bar 
                                  1?
                                  Bar 
                                  one…
                                  night
                                  you
                                  know.
                                  Oh right.
                                  Sorry.
                                  I
                                  know…
                                  I
                                  know.
                                  Yeah
                                  probably
                                  1
                                  night
                                  a week
                                  I wouldn’t
                                  go
                                  out
                                  but
                                  most of
                                  the time
                                  we
                                  did
                                  and
                                  we
                                  just
                                  bought
                                  a little bottles
                                  of
                                  vodka
                                  and
                                  a
                                  coke
                                  and
                                  Yeah
                                  on
                                  27
                                  …
                                  a
                                  week
                                  you could
                                  do it
                                  Yeah,
                                  that’s
                                  how
                                  you
                                  did
                                  it
                                  you
                                  drank
                                  before
                                  you
                                  went
                                  out
                                  and
                                  then
                                  I
                                  think
                                  Mr G’s
                                  …
                                  had
                                  like
                                  doubles
                                  for
                                  a
                                  pound
                                  and..
                                  yeah.
                                  Things
                                  like
                                  that
                                  and
                                  yeah,
                                  we used
                                  to get
                                  our
                                  clothes off
                                  market
                                  fer a
                                  fiver
                                  for
                                  this
                                  and
                                  a
                                  fiver for
                                  that
                                  and
                                  I
                                  worked
                                  on an
                                  ice
                                  cream
                                  van
                                  as well
                                  at
                                  weekend.
                                  You
                                  worked
                                  on
                                  an
                                  ice-cream
                                  van?
                                  At
                                  weekend.
                                  Wow.
                                  Yeah,
                                  Where abouts
                                  just
                                  in
                                  Blackburn?
                                  Yeah,
                                  with…
                                  no
                                  till…
                                  no 
                                  nothing
                                  just
                                  all
                                  mental
                                  maths
                                  and
                                  in ye’ head.
                                  No
                                  way
                                  that’s
                                  fantastic.
                                  I
                                  used to
                                  work on that
                                  and go
                                  parties
                                  and
                                  then
                                  day
                                  after
                                  go
                                  home
                                  at
                                  10
                                  o’clock
                                  at
                                  morning
                                  and
                                  then
                                  get
                                  up
                                  at
                                  12
                                  and
                                  then
                                  go
                                  on
                                  ice
                                  cream
                                  van
                                  at
                                  1…
                                  have
                                  a
                                  couple
                                  of
                                  hours
                                  sleep
                                  and
                                  then
                                  go out.
                                  No way
                                  do a
                                  tour
                                  of
                                  Blackburn.
                                  Yeah 
                                  That’s
                                  amazing…
                                  wow.
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  how
                                  I
                                  did
                                  it.
                                  But
                                  you
                                  had
                                  to…
                                  but
                                  you
                                  have
                                  to
                                  do
                                  didn’t
                                  you…
                                  which was?
                                  Well
                                  that’s
                                  it
                                  that
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  that’s
                                  how
                                  you
                                  pay
                                  for
                                  things though
                                  innit
                                  because
                                  I used
                                  to
                                  buy
                                  records
                                  every
                                  week
                                  12-inch
                                  singles
                                  every
                                  week.
                                  I
                                  mean
                                  some
                                  of
                                  them
                                  back
                                  then
                                  like
                                  white
                                  labels
                                  were like
                                  15
                                  quid
                                  well
                                  that
                                  I
                                  mean
                                  15
                                  quid
                                  now
                                  is
                                  a
                                  lot
                                  of
                                  money
                                  but back
                                  then
                                  it
                                  was
                                  a
                                  Yeah
                                  it
                                  was
                                  really
                                  expensive
                                  wasn’t
                                  it.
                                  Well
                                  I didn’t
                                  buy
                                  15
                                  one
                                  every week
                                  week
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  just
                                  the
                                  odd…
                                  So
                                  why
                                  didn’t
                                  become
                                  a
                                  DJ?
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  Well
                                  probably
                                  because
                                  you
                                  weren’t
                                  allowed.
                                  Probably
                                  not.
                                  But
                                  it’s
                                  interesting
                                  I’ve
                                  not
                                  met
                                  anybody
                                  else
                                  who
                                  said…
                                  Yeah,
                                  every week
                                  I bought..
                                  said 
                                  I bought
                                  12 inch
                                  every
                                  week.
                                  A 12 inch?
                                  At 
                                  least
                                  one
                                  every
                                  week
                                  and
                                  you
                                  used to
                                  have
                                  to
                                  order
                                  them
                                  as
                                  well.
                                  That’s
                                  very interesting
                                  Because
                                  of
                                  Italian
                                  import
                                  some
                                  stuff
                                  weren’t it
                                  Yeah, they were
                                  this
                                  is
                                  interesting
                                  because
                                  you
                                  didn’t
                                  really
                                  know,
                                  well 
                                  if
                                  you
                                  went
                                  to
                                  the
                                  only
                                  way
                                  to
                                  do
                                  it
                                  was
                                  to
                                  listen
                                  wasn’t
                                  it?
                                  Listen 
                                  and 
                                  then
                                  I
                                  ask
                                  Lee
                                  Stan…
                                  What’s
                                  this
                                  called?
                                  What’s
                                  the
                                  name
                                  of
                                  it
                                  and
                                  somehow
                                  I
                                  remembered
                                  it.
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  how
                                  I
                                  even
                                  remember
                                  the
                                  name
                                  of
                                  the
                                  tune,
                                  but
                                  it
                                  were
                                  in
                                  there
                                  and
                                  then
                                  I
                                  go
                                  down
                                  the
                                  following
                                  week
                                  and
                                  go buy it.
                                  I
                                  didn’t
                                  have
                                  a
                                  right
                                  lot.
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know.
                                  I might of
                                  had
                                  about
                                  about
                                  200
                                  or
                                  something
                                  like
                                  that
                                  not…
                                  that’s
                                  a
                                  lot.
                                  I don’t know
                                  maybe…
                                  maybe
                                  about
                                  100
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know.
                                  It
                                  were..
                                  I
                                  had
                                  a
                                  quite
                                  a
                                  lot
                                  and
                                  I
                                  know
                                  I
                                  can
                                  see
                                  a
                                  record
                                  sleeve
                                  now
                                  and I
                                  know
                                  what
                                  song
                                  that
                                  is
                                  even
                                  now
                                  I
                                  could…
                                  I
                                  could
                                  probably
                                  say
                                  yeah,
                                  I
                                  know…
                                  I
                                  know
                                  what
                                  that
                                  is.
                                  But
                                  do
                                  you
                                  not
                                  think
                                  it
                                  was
                                  interesting
                                  music
                                  because
                                  it
                                  didn’t
                                  really
                                  have
                                  a
                                  image
                                  with
                                  it
                                  did
                                  it
                                  didn’t
                                  get
                                  a
                                  …
                                  poster…
                                  they
                                  weren’t
                                  in
                                  Smash
                                  Hits
                                  you
                                  didn’t
                                  know
                                  who they
                                  were
                                  did you?
                                  No.
                                  And they
                                  weren’t
                                  really
                                  selling
                                  themselves,
                                  their
                                  egos,
                                  it
                                  was
                                  just
                                  the
                                  music
                                  wasn’t
                                  it?
                                  Yeah
                                  You
                                  didn’t…
                                  Yeah
                                  know
                                  who they
                                  were
                                  never
                                  heard of ’em
                                  especially…
                                  and
                                  even
                                  the
                                  same
                                  people
                                  they
                                  bring…
                                  bring
                                  out
                                  3
                                  12 inch
                                  …
                                  and
                                  but
                                  they’d
                                  been
                                  under
                                  different
                                  names
                                  wouldn’t
                                  they?
                                  Yes.
                                  Cos’ that
                                  was
                                  the
                                  same
                                  guys.
                                  Yeah
                                  yeah.
                                  But
                                  that
                                  was the
                                  thing
                                  that
                                  sold
                                  it
                                  was
                                  the
                                  music
                                  wasn’t it.
                                  Yeah
                                  Which
                                  is…
                                  which
                                  is…
                                  really
                                  which
                                  is
                                  what..
                                  how
                                  it
                                  should
                                  be
                                  shouldn’t it?
                                  Oh,
                                  yeah,
                                  I mean
                                  it
                                  were
                                  brilliant
                                  and
                                  then
                                  obviously
                                  there were
                                  Manhattan 
                                  Heights
                                  as
                                  well
                                  which
                                  were
                                  which
                                  were
                                  great
                                  and
                                  even
                                  like
                                  Adamski
                                  came
                                  to
                                  Manhattan 
                                  Heights
                                  and
                                  Yeah
                                  I remember
                                  Guru
                                  Josh
                                  and
                                  there were
                                  coach
                                  loads
                                  coming
                                  from
                                  Manchester
                                  and
                                  that
                                  were
                                  brilliant
                                  as
                                  as
                                  well.
                                  and
                                  that were
                                  a good
                                  a
                                  good
                                  night
                                  That wasn’t
                                  it
                                  carried
                                  on
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  after
                                  didn’t it
                                  as
                                  well?
                                  Yeah
                                  With the….
                                  with
                                  the…
                                  Yeah.
                                  Started
                                  at the Hacienda
                                  on
                                  Thursday.
                                  nights
                                  Yeah
                                  as
                                  well.
                                  Yeah,
                                  Which
                                  was
                                  good
                                  wasn’t it.
                                  Yeah,
                                  it
                                  was
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  political
                                  as
                                  well
                                  wasn’t
                                  it,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  there
                                  was
                                  abit 
                                  much,
                                  it
                                  was
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  …
                                  anti Tory
                                  wasn’t
                                  it.
                                  …
                                  Because
                                  obviously
                                  Thatcher
                                  was
                                  the
                                  one 
                                  that
                                  …
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  there
                                  was
                                  a
                                  lot
                                  of
                                  disused
                                  mills
                                  and
                                  that’s
                                  how
                                  your
                                  music
                                  ended
                                  up
                                  in
                                  there.
                                  …
                                  Un-employment
                                  of
                                  course,
                                  un-employment
                                  and
                                  then
                                  obviously
                                  …
                                  then
                                  she
                                  brought
                                  the
                                  bills
                                  in
                                  to
                                  stop
                                  the
                                  parties
                                  and,
                                  you
                                  know
                                  the
                                  police
                                  got
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  heavy
                                  handed,
                                  a
                                  bit,
                                  and
                                  it
                                  did
                                  you
                                  know
                                  it
                                  is
                                  it
                                  does
                                  correlate
                                  with
                                  the
                                  miners
                                  and,
                                  it’s
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  that,
                                  very
                                  similar
                                  to
                                  that.
                                  I
                                  think
                                  where
                                  they
                                  got
                                  vilified
                                  and,
                                  and
                                  we
                                  got
                                  vilified
                                  as
                                  well,
                                  you
                                  know
                                  the
                                  media,
                                  the
                                  Telegraph
                                  even.
                                  I
                                  mean
                                  it
                                  made
                                  me
                                  laugh
                                  because
                                  recently
                                  the
                                  Telegraph
                                  …
                                  said,
                                  oh
                                  look
                                  at
                                  this
                                  that
                                  happened
                                  20
                                  years
                                  ago,
                                  and
                                  I
                                  thought
                                  hang
                                  on
                                  a
                                  minute
                                  you
                                  were,
                                  you
                                  were
                                  slagging
                                  everybody
                                  20
                                  years
                                  ago
                                  you
                                  were
                                  saying
                                  there
                                  were
                                  people
                                  having
                                  sex
                                  and
                                  there
                                  were
                                  all
                                  sorts
                                  of
                                  all
                                  that
                                  stuff
                                  going
                                  on
                                  and
                                  you
                                  were
                                  slagging
                                  it
                                  off.
                                  And
                                  similarly
                                  on
                                  the,
                                  Radio
                                  Lancashire
                                  were
                                  doing
                                  interviews
                                  on
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  about
                                  commemorating
                                  30
                                  years
                                  of
                                  Acid 
                                  House
                                  and
                                  they
                                  were
                                  totally
                                  against
                                  it
                                  as
                                  well
                                  all
                                  the
                                  yeah,
                                  they
                                  all 
                                  were.
                                  Yeah
                                  and
                                  they
                                  demonised
                                  us
                                  made us
                                  look
                                  bad,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  me’ Mum
                                  and Dad
                                  were
                                  like…
                                  What
                                  you
                                  doing,
                                  doing
                                  this?
                                  I said
                                  I’m
                                  not
                                  doing
                                  anything.
                                  You
                                  know
                                  what
                                  it
                                  was.
                                  It
                                  was
                                  very
                                  very
                                  political.
                                  They
                                  made
                                  a
                                  big
                                  thing
                                  of
                                  …
                                  the
                                  drug
                                  side
                                  of
                                  it
                                  but
                                  as
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  having
                                  been
                                  on
                                  20
                                  …
                                  a
                                  week.
                                  It
                                  was
                                  a
                                  lot
                                  less
                                  than
                                  people
                                  make
                                  out
                                  wasn’t
                                  it,
                                  there
                                  was
                                  a
                                  lot
                                  less
                                  of
                                  course…
                                  course,
                                  there
                                  was
                                  drugs
                                  there.
                                  But
                                  yeah
                                  there
                                  was a lot
                                  less than
                                  the media
                                  made
                                  out
                                  at
                                  the
                                  time
                                  that’s
                                  for
                                  sure.
                                  Yeah.
                                  I
                                  think
                                  it
                                  it,
                                  cos,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  at
                                  that
                                  time
                                  I
                                  was
                                  like
                                  young
                                  and
                                  impressionable
                                  and
                                  I
                                  thought
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  …
                                  …
                                  …
                                  …
                                  like
                                  Margaret
                                  Thatcher,
                                  woman
                                  Prime
                                  Minister
                                  it
                                  kinda,
                                  it
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  …
                                  a
                                  kind
                                  of,
                                  not,
                                  I
                                  didn’t
                                  idolise
                                  her, but
                                  I
                                  thought,
                                  wow
                                  a
                                  woman
                                  Prime
                                  Minister.
                                  Because
                                  obviously
                                  she
                                  was
                                  the
                                  first
                                  and
                                  last
                                  wasn’t
                                  she.
                                  So
                                  …
                                  …
                                  she
                                  was
                                  to
                                  be
                                  admired
                                  I
                                  thought
                                  until
                                  that
                                  happened
                                  and
                                  then
                                  I
                                  look
                                  back
                                  at
                                  all
                                  the
                                  things
                                  that
                                  happened
                                  and
                                  it
                                  did
                                  change
                                  my
                                  view
                                  politically
                                  because
                                  I
                                  was
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  sliding
                                  towards
                                  that
                                  way.
                                  …
                                  I
                                  was…
                                  and
                                  it’s
                                  changed
                                  me
                                  completely.
                                  I
                                  went
                                  completely
                                  the
                                  other
                                  way.
                                  I’ve
                                  gone
                                  completely
                                  the
                                  other
                                  way.
                                  I
                                  mean,
                                  I’m
                                  not
                                  really
                                  far
                                  left,
                                  but
                                  I
                                  am
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  more
                                  that
                                  way.
                                  Definitely
                                  changed
                                  me
                                  politically.
                                  Definitely.
                                  When
                                  I
                                  see
                                  like
                                  social
                                  media
                                  …
                                  and
                                  Facebook
                                  and
                                  things
                                  like
                                  that
                                  and
                                  I
                                  see
                                  like
                                  Mixmag
                                  post
                                  stuff
                                  and
                                  things
                                  like
                                  that
                                  and
                                  if
                                  I
                                  ever
                                  see
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  racist
                                  comments
                                  or…
                                  and
                                  I
                                  think
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  did
                                  you
                                  really
                                  understand
                                  what
                                  that
                                  scene
                                  was
                                  about?
                                  These
                                  are
                                  people
                                  from
                                  that
                                  scene
                                  and
                                  from
                                  what
                                  happened
                                  back
                                  then.
                                  And
                                  I
                                  think
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  do
                                  you
                                  really
                                  truly
                                  remember
                                  what
                                  that
                                  was
                                  about,
                                  cos
                                  …
                                  I
                                  just
                                  can’t
                                  believe
                                  that
                                  you’ve
                                  got
                                  those
                                  political
                                  views
                                  and
                                  those
                                  views
                                  about,
                                  I
                                  can’t
                                  understand
                                  it,
                                  it
                                  I
                                  can’t,
                                  and
                                  that’s
                                  what
                                  I
                                  see
                                  today
                                  I
                                  think
                                  it’s…
                                  So my
                                  message
                                  for
                                  young
                                  people
                                  is,
                                  is
                                  don’t,
                                  don’t
                                  ever
                                  judge
                                  a
                                  book
                                  by
                                  it’s
                                  cover
                                  …
                                  …
                                  Don’t
                                  believe
                                  everything
                                  you
                                  hear
                                  or
                                  read
                                  or
                                  see,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  because
                                  there’s,
                                  you’ve
                                  to
                                  kinda
                                  be
                                  in
                                  it
                                  to
                                  kinda
                                  believe 
                                  it
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  thing.
                                  Yeah,
                                  you
                                  have
                                  to
                                  be
                                  there
                                  to
                                  see
                                  what,
                                  to
                                  appreciate
                                  it.
                                  Yeah.
                                  Don’t
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  don’t
                                  knock
                                  it
                                  till
                                  you’ve
                                  tried
                                  it.
                                  
                          Julie Advice For Future Generations
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So
                                  my
                                  message
                                  for
                                  young
                                  people
                                  is
                                  don’t
                                  don’t
                                  ever
                                  judge
                                  a
                                  book
                                  by
                                  it’s
                                  cover,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  don’t
                                  believe
                                  everything
                                  you
                                  hear
                                  or
                                  read
                                  or
                                  see…
                                  don’t
                                  knock
                                  it
                                  till
                                  you’ve
                                  tried
                                  it.
                                  
                            Full Transcript:
So
                                  my
                                  message
                                  for
                                  young
                                  people
                                  is
                                  don’t
                                  don’t
                                  ever
                                  judge
                                  a
                                  book
                                  by
                                  it’s
                                  cover,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  don’t
                                  believe
                                  everything
                                  you
                                  hear
                                  or
                                  read
                                  or
                                  see…
                                  don’t
                                  knock
                                  it
                                  till
                                  you’ve
                                  tried
                                  it.
                                  
                          Julie Full Interview
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My
                                  name
                                  is
                                  Julie.
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  going
                                  to…
                                  I
                                  think
                                  it
                                  was
                                  Mr.
                                  Gee’s
                                  and
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  a
                                  DJ
                                  in
                                  there
                                  playing
                                  Helyom
                                  Halib
                                  by
                                  Cappella
                                  and
                                  I
                                  thought…
                                  I
                                  like
                                  this…
                                  this is
                                  great
                                  and
                                  then
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  how
                                  but
                                  we
                                  ended
                                  up
                                  from
                                  there
                                  going
                                  to
                                  Crackers 
                                  upstairs,
                                  but
                                  there
                                  are
                                  a
                                  couple
                                  of
                                  times
                                  loved
                                  it
                                  really
                                  hot
                                  sweaty
                                  dripping
                                  wet
                                  through
                                  from
                                  the
                                  ceiling
                                  steamy
                                  hot
                                  place
                                  boilin’
                                  but
                                  really
                                  good,
                                  and
                                  then…
                                  but
                                  we
                                  only
                                  went
                                  twice
                                  because
                                  then
                                  I
                                  think
                                  it
                                  moved
                                  it
                                  Sett
                                  End
                                  from
                                  then
                                  and
                                  then
                                  that’s
                                  when
                                  it
                                  all
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  began
                                  for
                                  me
                                  and
                                  my
                                  friend
                                  at
                                  the
                                  time.
                                  That
                                  was…
                                  that
                                  was
                                  it
                                  we
                                  went
                                  to
                                  Sett
                                  End 
                                  and
                                  then
                                  our
                                  first
                                  warehouse 
                                  party
                                  was
                                  at
                                  it
                                  was
                                  in
                                  Lower
                                  Darwen.
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  it
                                  was
                                  the
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  went
                                  in…
                                  you
                                  went
                                  in
                                  things
                                  that…
                                  it
                                  was
                                  very
                                  narrow
                                  concrete
                                  corridors
                                  and
                                  they
                                  were
                                  seem
                                  to
                                  be
                                  candles
                                  all
                                  the
                                  way
                                  along
                                  and
                                  I’ll never
                                  forget
                                  because
                                  it
                                  was
                                  the
                                  very
                                  first
                                  one
                                  I
                                  went
                                  to
                                  and
                                  I’d
                                  only
                                  been
                                  drinking
                                  a
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  of
                                  vodka
                                  and
                                  a
                                  coke
                                  and
                                  that’s
                                  all…
                                  and there were
                                  these
                                  candles
                                  going
                                  all
                                  the
                                  way
                                  along
                                  and it
                                  was
                                  very
                                  dark…
                                  and
                                  then
                                  we
                                  come
                                  out
                                  and
                                  it
                                  was
                                  a
                                  big
                                  warehouse,
                                  obviously,
                                  it
                                  was
                                  pitch
                                  black
                                  so
                                  you
                                  can’t
                                  really
                                  see
                                  much…
                                  little
                                  light
                                  with
                                  like
                                  tiny
                                  lights
                                  little
                                  strobes
                                  and
                                  things
                                  up
                                  at
                                  the
                                  top
                                  and
                                  I
                                  think
                                  Charles
                                  B
                                  Lack
                                  Of
                                  Love 
                                  played
                                  and
                                  it
                                  was
                                  and
                                  E-Zee
                                  possé
                                  Everything
                                  Starts
                                  with
                                  an
                                  E
                                  and
                                  me
                                  my
                                  friend
                                  looked
                                  at
                                  each
                                  other
                                  and we
                                  were
                                  like
                                  Wow.
                                  What
                                  is
                                  this?
                                  This
                                  is
                                  brilliant
                                  that
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  it
                                  blew
                                  our
                                  minds…
                                  blew
                                  our
                                  minds
                                  and
                                  the
                                  atmosphere
                                  and
                                  everything
                                  were
                                  it
                                  were
                                  brilliant 
                                  and
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  then
                                  it
                                  got
                                  busted
                                  by
                                  police.
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  the…
                                  they
                                  beat
                                  the
                                  doors
                                  down
                                  with
                                  an
                                  axe
                                  or
                                  something…
                                  I heard
                                  somebody
                                  say…
                                  everybody
                                  out
                                  back
                                  we
                                  all
                                  had
                                  to
                                  push…
                                  we
                                  all
                                  got
                                  kind
                                  of…
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  like it
                                  reminded
                                  me
                                  of
                                  Hillsborough,
                                  a
                                  bit…
                                  was
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  like
                                  everybody
                                  got
                                  pushed
                                  to
                                  the
                                  front.
                                  I
                                  felt…
                                  I
                                  thought  
                                  I
                                  were
                                  gonna  
                                  get
                                  crushed
                                  and
                                  I
                                  think…
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  whether
                                  they
                                  bashed
                                  the
                                  doors
                                  down
                                  with
                                  an
                                  axe
                                  or
                                  something.
                                  They
                                  burst
                                  in…
                                  they
                                  had
                                  riot
                                  shields
                                  helmets
                                  Alsatian
                                  dogs,
                                  and
                                  they
                                  were
                                  like
                                  EVERYBODY
                                  OUT
                                  and
                                  I’m
                                  sure
                                  that’s
                                  the
                                  party
                                  that
                                  Tony
                                  Kreft
                                  shouted…
                                  I
                                  remember him
                                  shouting…
                                  The
                                  bastards
                                  have
                                  took
                                  the
                                  decks…
                                  but
                                  this
                                  was
                                  like….
                                  this
                                  was
                                  like
                                  a
                                  few
                                  hours
                                  later
                                  so
                                  it’s
                                  been
                                  going
                                  for
                                  quite
                                  some
                                  time.
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  looking
                                  up
                                  and
                                  it
                                  was…
                                  I’m
                                  sure
                                  it
                                  was
                                  like
                                  a
                                  zig…
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  those
                                  really
                                  old
                                  warehouses…
                                  were
                                  factories
                                  where
                                  they’d
                                  have
                                  like
                                  a
                                  glass
                                  ceiling
                                  that 
                                  was
                                  Yeah like a zigzag
                                  zigzag-ceiling
                                  and
                                  there
                                  was
                                  somebody
                                  crawling
                                  across
                                  the
                                  roof
                                  and
                                  I’m not
                                  sure if
                                  that
                                  were
                                  police
                                  looking
                                  to
                                  see
                                  how
                                  many
                                  people
                                  were
                                  in
                                  but
                                  I
                                  could
                                  see
                                  somebody
                                  up
                                  there
                                  before
                                  that
                                  before
                                  they
                                  broke
                                  the
                                  doors
                                  down
                                  and
                                  they
                                  just
                                  went
                                  like
                                  EVERYBODY
                                  OUT
                                  some
                                  obviously
                                  we’ve
                                  got
                                  kicked out
                                  and we
                                  thought,
                                  wow,
                                  that
                                  were
                                  brilliant
                                  we
                                  have
                                  to
                                  do
                                  that
                                  again.
                                  and
                                  that
                                  were
                                  it
                                  that
                                  kinda did it
                                  for
                                  us.
                                  The
                                  best
                                  part
                                  about
                                  it
                                  was…
                                  I
                                  think
                                  is
                                  that at
                                  one
                                  time 
                                  Blackburn
                                  were
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  divided
                                  there
                                  were
                                  lots
                                  of
                                  different
                                  areas
                                  in
                                  Blackburn
                                  that
                                  were
                                  all
                                  divided
                                  you
                                  had
                                  Mill
                                  Hill.
                                  Ye’ had 
                                  Infirmary
                                  area.
                                  ye’ had,
                                  Queens
                                  Park
                                  area.
                                  ye had,
                                  Blackburn
                                  Youth
                                  you had
                                  all
                                  these
                                  different
                                  groups
                                  and
                                  they
                                  used
                                  to
                                  be
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  of
                                  trouble
                                  as
                                  well.
                                  I
                                  used
                                  to o’ to
                                  King
                                  George’s Hall
                                  on
                                  a
                                  Monday
                                  night
                                  and
                                  Monday
                                  Night
                                  Madness…
                                  used
                                  to
                                  be
                                  chairs
                                  flying
                                  across
                                  the
                                  room
                                  and
                                  things
                                  like
                                  that.
                                  and I
                                  remember…
                                  do
                                  you
                                  know
                                  that
                                  and
                                  then
                                  that
                                  just
                                  all
                                  stopped
                                  there
                                  were
                                  no
                                  trouble.
                                  everybody
                                  knew
                                  everybody…
                                  if
                                  you
                                  knew…
                                  so
                                  if
                                  you
                                  went
                                  to
                                  a
                                  party
                                  and
                                  it
                                  wasn’t
                                  the
                                  right
                                  1
                                  or
                                  somet’
                                  you
                                  knew
                                  it
                                  were
                                  the
                                  right
                                  1
                                  because
                                  there
                                  wasn’t
                                  anybody
                                  there
                                  you
                                  that,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  you
                                  didn’t
                                  know
                                  so
                                  if
                                  you
                                  were
                                  at
                                  somewhere
                                  where you
                                  didn’t
                                  know
                                  anybody
                                  you’re
                                  at
                                  the
                                  wrong
                                  1
                                  because
                                  you
                                  knew
                                  everybody
                                  every
                                  time
                                  that’s
                                  one
                                  of
                                  my
                                  fondest
                                  memories
                                  really
                                  is
                                  and….
                                  and
                                  just
                                  the
                                  atmosphere
                                  of
                                  of
                                  being
                                  in
                                  that
                                  in
                                  a
                                  warehouse
                                  the
                                  sound…
                                  the
                                  mood…
                                  the
                                  it’s
                                  I
                                  can still
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  feel
                                  that
                                  and
                                  remember
                                  that
                                  all
                                  this
                                  time…
                                  that
                                  you’ll…
                                  you
                                  can…
                                  and
                                  you
                                  can
                                  never
                                  replace
                                  it.
                                  You
                                  can
                                  never
                                  recreate
                                  it.
                                  It’s
                                  gone…
                                  it
                                  happened
                                  and
                                  it
                                  was
                                  just
                                  the
                                  whole
                                  the
                                  music,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  and
                                  if
                                  anybody…
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  anybody
                                  would
                                  do
                                  anything
                                  for
                                  you
                                  if
                                  you
                                  needed
                                  a
                                  lift
                                  somewhere
                                  or…
                                  it
                                  were
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  like
                                  suppose it were
                                  like
                                  hip…
                                  60s
                                  hippies…
                                  like
                                  bit
                                  of
                                  peace
                                  and
                                  love
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  thing
                                  and
                                  that’s
                                  what
                                  it
                                  was.
                                  I
                                  liked
                                  Ewood
                                  Mill
                                  I
                                  always
                                  remember
                                  because
                                  there
                                  were
                                  2
                                  there,
                                  one
                                  week
                                  after
                                  the
                                  other
                                  and
                                  Ste…
                                  Well,
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  Ste…
                                  were  
                                  talking
                                  about it
                                  he
                                  dressed
                                  in
                                  a
                                  red
                                  devil
                                  suit
                                  and I
                                  remember
                                  him
                                  New
                                  year
                                  Eve
                                  he
                                  had a
                                  big 
                                  red
                                  devil
                                  suit
                                  on
                                  he
                                  must
                                  have
                                  hired
                                  it
                                  a
                                  big
                                  furry…
                                  He
                                  was
                                  absolutely
                                  roasting
                                  sweating
                                  like
                                  I
                                  don’t know
                                  what
                                  with
                                  this
                                  Big
                                  Red
                                  Devil
                                  suit
                                  on
                                  New
                                  Years
                                  Eve
                                  He must’ve
                                  to
                                  decided
                                  to
                                  dress
                                  up
                                  like that
                                  So that were
                                  fond
                                  memories
                                  and
                                  jumping
                                  in
                                  back
                                  of
                                  his
                                  van.
                                  We
                                  once
                                  got
                                  led
                                  up a
                                  garden 
                                  path
                                  I
                                  think
                                  it
                                  was
                                  it
                                  must
                                  have
                                  been
                                  a false
                                  convoy
                                  and
                                  we
                                  ended
                                  up.
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  if
                                  it
                                  was
                                  Tockholes
                                  or
                                  somewhere.
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  we
                                  ended
                                  up
                                  down
                                  this
                                  dirt
                                  track
                                  lots
                                  of
                                  us
                                  and
                                  then
                                  the
                                  police
                                  blocked
                                  off
                                  one
                                  end
                                  and
                                  then
                                  they
                                  blocked
                                  off
                                  the
                                  other
                                  end
                                  and
                                  they
                                  decided
                                  to
                                  search
                                  all
                                  the
                                  cars
                                  and
                                  vans
                                  and
                                  this
                                  lad
                                  that
                                  was
                                  in
                                  the
                                  van
                                  dropped
                                  some
                                  weed
                                  on
                                  the
                                  floor
                                  and
                                  it
                                  was
                                  like
                                  a
                                  quite
                                  a
                                  big
                                  chunk of
                                  weed
                                  on
                                  the
                                  floor
                                  so
                                  I’m
                                  hiding
                                  in the 
                                  back
                                  of
                                  this
                                  van
                                  the
                                  door
                                  opens
                                  and
                                  I’m
                                  like
                                  this
                                  and
                                  there’s
                                  a
                                  policeman
                                  there
                                  and
                                  I
                                  were like…
                                  Oh
                                  hello
                                  that kind
                                  of
                                  thing.
                                  Anyway,
                                  they
                                  got
                                  the
                                  sniffer
                                  dog,
                                  and
                                  I’m
                                  thinking
                                  oh
                                  my
                                  God…
                                  sniffer
                                  dog…
                                  sniffer
                                  dog
                                  went
                                  in
                                  it
                                  and
                                  never
                                  found
                                  it.
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  how
                                  it
                                  never
                                  found
                                  it,
                                  but
                                  it
                                  never
                                  found
                                  it
                                  because
                                  it
                                  was
                                  a
                                  lot
                                  of
                                  electrical
                                  equipment
                                  in
                                  the
                                  back
                                  wires
                                  it
                                  were
                                  full
                                  of
                                  stuff
                                  that
                                  it
                                  wasn’t
                                  organised.
                                  It
                                  was
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  organised
                                  chaos
                                  it
                                  was
                                  so
                                  that’s
                                  probably
                                  why
                                  it
                                  didn’t
                                  find
                                  it
                                  but
                                  I
                                  was
                                  like
                                  so
                                  so
                                  relieved
                                  and
                                  then
                                  this
                                  policemen
                                  said
                                  like…
                                  What
                                  are
                                  you
                                  doing
                                  in…
                                  you
                                  know
                                  back of
                                  here?
                                  You
                                  know,
                                  you
                                  shouldn’t
                                  really
                                  be
                                  in
                                  the
                                  back
                                  of
                                  here
                                  because
                                  you’re
                                  not
                                  it’s
                                  not
                                  a
                                  passenger
                                  vehicle
                                  you
                                  shouldn’t
                                  really
                                  be
                                  in
                                  the
                                  back
                                  of
                                  here
                                  and
                                  I
                                  said,
                                  well,
                                  I’ve
                                  no
                                  way
                                  of
                                  getting
                                  home
                                  now
                                  and
                                  he
                                  said
                                  …
                                  go
                                  on
                                  we’ll…
                                  we’ll
                                  let
                                  you
                                  off
                                  this
                                  time.
                                  He
                                  said
                                  but
                                  in
                                  future
                                  don’t
                                  get
                                  in
                                  the
                                  back
                                  of
                                  that
                                  van
                                  and
                                  then
                                  obviously
                                  the
                                  week
                                  after
                                  I
                                  got
                                  back
                                  in
                                  the
                                  back
                                  of
                                  the
                                  van.
                                  So
                                  a
                                  message
                                  for
                                  young
                                  people
                                  is
                                  don’t…
                                  don’t
                                  ever
                                  judge
                                  a
                                  book
                                  by
                                  it’s
                                  cover,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  don’t
                                  believe
                                  everything
                                  you
                                  hear
                                  or
                                  read
                                  or
                                  see
                                  don’t
                                  knock
                                  it
                                  till
                                  you’ve
                                  tried
                                  it.
                                  
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My
                                  name
                                  is
                                  Julie.
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  going
                                  to…
                                  I
                                  think
                                  it
                                  was
                                  Mr.
                                  Gee’s
                                  and
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  a
                                  DJ
                                  in
                                  there
                                  playing
                                  Helyom
                                  Halib
                                  by
                                  Cappella
                                  and
                                  I
                                  thought…
                                  I
                                  like
                                  this…
                                  this is
                                  great
                                  and
                                  then
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  how
                                  but
                                  we
                                  ended
                                  up
                                  from
                                  there
                                  going
                                  to
                                  Crackers 
                                  upstairs,
                                  but
                                  there
                                  are
                                  a
                                  couple
                                  of
                                  times
                                  loved
                                  it
                                  really
                                  hot
                                  sweaty
                                  dripping
                                  wet
                                  through
                                  from
                                  the
                                  ceiling
                                  steamy
                                  hot
                                  place
                                  boilin’
                                  but
                                  really
                                  good,
                                  and
                                  then…
                                  but
                                  we
                                  only
                                  went
                                  twice
                                  because
                                  then
                                  I
                                  think
                                  it
                                  moved
                                  it
                                  Sett
                                  End
                                  from
                                  then
                                  and
                                  then
                                  that’s
                                  when
                                  it
                                  all
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  began
                                  for
                                  me
                                  and
                                  my
                                  friend
                                  at
                                  the
                                  time.
                                  That
                                  was…
                                  that
                                  was
                                  it
                                  we
                                  went
                                  to
                                  Sett
                                  End 
                                  and
                                  then
                                  our
                                  first
                                  warehouse 
                                  party
                                  was
                                  at
                                  it
                                  was
                                  in
                                  Lower
                                  Darwen.
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  it
                                  was
                                  the
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  went
                                  in…
                                  you
                                  went
                                  in
                                  things
                                  that…
                                  it
                                  was
                                  very
                                  narrow
                                  concrete
                                  corridors
                                  and
                                  they
                                  were
                                  seem
                                  to
                                  be
                                  candles
                                  all
                                  the
                                  way
                                  along
                                  and
                                  I’ll never
                                  forget
                                  because
                                  it
                                  was
                                  the
                                  very
                                  first
                                  one
                                  I
                                  went
                                  to
                                  and
                                  I’d
                                  only
                                  been
                                  drinking
                                  a
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  of
                                  vodka
                                  and
                                  a
                                  coke
                                  and
                                  that’s
                                  all…
                                  and there were
                                  these
                                  candles
                                  going
                                  all
                                  the
                                  way
                                  along
                                  and it
                                  was
                                  very
                                  dark…
                                  and
                                  then
                                  we
                                  come
                                  out
                                  and
                                  it
                                  was
                                  a
                                  big
                                  warehouse,
                                  obviously,
                                  it
                                  was
                                  pitch
                                  black
                                  so
                                  you
                                  can’t
                                  really
                                  see
                                  much…
                                  little
                                  light
                                  with
                                  like
                                  tiny
                                  lights
                                  little
                                  strobes
                                  and
                                  things
                                  up
                                  at
                                  the
                                  top
                                  and
                                  I
                                  think
                                  Charles
                                  B
                                  Lack
                                  Of
                                  Love 
                                  played
                                  and
                                  it
                                  was
                                  and
                                  E-Zee
                                  possé
                                  Everything
                                  Starts
                                  with
                                  an
                                  E
                                  and
                                  me
                                  my
                                  friend
                                  looked
                                  at
                                  each
                                  other
                                  and we
                                  were
                                  like
                                  Wow.
                                  What
                                  is
                                  this?
                                  This
                                  is
                                  brilliant
                                  that
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  it
                                  blew
                                  our
                                  minds…
                                  blew
                                  our
                                  minds
                                  and
                                  the
                                  atmosphere
                                  and
                                  everything
                                  were
                                  it
                                  were
                                  brilliant 
                                  and
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  then
                                  it
                                  got
                                  busted
                                  by
                                  police.
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  the…
                                  they
                                  beat
                                  the
                                  doors
                                  down
                                  with
                                  an
                                  axe
                                  or
                                  something…
                                  I heard
                                  somebody
                                  say…
                                  everybody
                                  out
                                  back
                                  we
                                  all
                                  had
                                  to
                                  push…
                                  we
                                  all
                                  got
                                  kind
                                  of…
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  like it
                                  reminded
                                  me
                                  of
                                  Hillsborough,
                                  a
                                  bit…
                                  was
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  like
                                  everybody
                                  got
                                  pushed
                                  to
                                  the
                                  front.
                                  I
                                  felt…
                                  I
                                  thought  
                                  I
                                  were
                                  gonna  
                                  get
                                  crushed
                                  and
                                  I
                                  think…
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  whether
                                  they
                                  bashed
                                  the
                                  doors
                                  down
                                  with
                                  an
                                  axe
                                  or
                                  something.
                                  They
                                  burst
                                  in…
                                  they
                                  had
                                  riot
                                  shields
                                  helmets
                                  Alsatian
                                  dogs,
                                  and
                                  they
                                  were
                                  like
                                  EVERYBODY
                                  OUT
                                  and
                                  I’m
                                  sure
                                  that’s
                                  the
                                  party
                                  that
                                  Tony
                                  Kreft
                                  shouted…
                                  I
                                  remember him
                                  shouting…
                                  The
                                  bastards
                                  have
                                  took
                                  the
                                  decks…
                                  but
                                  this
                                  was
                                  like….
                                  this
                                  was
                                  like
                                  a
                                  few
                                  hours
                                  later
                                  so
                                  it’s
                                  been
                                  going
                                  for
                                  quite
                                  some
                                  time.
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  looking
                                  up
                                  and
                                  it
                                  was…
                                  I’m
                                  sure
                                  it
                                  was
                                  like
                                  a
                                  zig…
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  those
                                  really
                                  old
                                  warehouses…
                                  were
                                  factories
                                  where
                                  they’d
                                  have
                                  like
                                  a
                                  glass
                                  ceiling
                                  that 
                                  was
                                  Yeah like a zigzag
                                  zigzag-ceiling
                                  and
                                  there
                                  was
                                  somebody
                                  crawling
                                  across
                                  the
                                  roof
                                  and
                                  I’m not
                                  sure if
                                  that
                                  were
                                  police
                                  looking
                                  to
                                  see
                                  how
                                  many
                                  people
                                  were
                                  in
                                  but
                                  I
                                  could
                                  see
                                  somebody
                                  up
                                  there
                                  before
                                  that
                                  before
                                  they
                                  broke
                                  the
                                  doors
                                  down
                                  and
                                  they
                                  just
                                  went
                                  like
                                  EVERYBODY
                                  OUT
                                  some
                                  obviously
                                  we’ve
                                  got
                                  kicked out
                                  and we
                                  thought,
                                  wow,
                                  that
                                  were
                                  brilliant
                                  we
                                  have
                                  to
                                  do
                                  that
                                  again.
                                  and
                                  that
                                  were
                                  it
                                  that
                                  kinda did it
                                  for
                                  us.
                                  The
                                  best
                                  part
                                  about
                                  it
                                  was…
                                  I
                                  think
                                  is
                                  that at
                                  one
                                  time 
                                  Blackburn
                                  were
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  divided
                                  there
                                  were
                                  lots
                                  of
                                  different
                                  areas
                                  in
                                  Blackburn
                                  that
                                  were
                                  all
                                  divided
                                  you
                                  had
                                  Mill
                                  Hill.
                                  Ye’ had 
                                  Infirmary
                                  area.
                                  ye’ had,
                                  Queens
                                  Park
                                  area.
                                  ye had,
                                  Blackburn
                                  Youth
                                  you had
                                  all
                                  these
                                  different
                                  groups
                                  and
                                  they
                                  used
                                  to
                                  be
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  of
                                  trouble
                                  as
                                  well.
                                  I
                                  used
                                  to o’ to
                                  King
                                  George’s Hall
                                  on
                                  a
                                  Monday
                                  night
                                  and
                                  Monday
                                  Night
                                  Madness…
                                  used
                                  to
                                  be
                                  chairs
                                  flying
                                  across
                                  the
                                  room
                                  and
                                  things
                                  like
                                  that.
                                  and I
                                  remember…
                                  do
                                  you
                                  know
                                  that
                                  and
                                  then
                                  that
                                  just
                                  all
                                  stopped
                                  there
                                  were
                                  no
                                  trouble.
                                  everybody
                                  knew
                                  everybody…
                                  if
                                  you
                                  knew…
                                  so
                                  if
                                  you
                                  went
                                  to
                                  a
                                  party
                                  and
                                  it
                                  wasn’t
                                  the
                                  right
                                  1
                                  or
                                  somet’
                                  you
                                  knew
                                  it
                                  were
                                  the
                                  right
                                  1
                                  because
                                  there
                                  wasn’t
                                  anybody
                                  there
                                  you
                                  that,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  you
                                  didn’t
                                  know
                                  so
                                  if
                                  you
                                  were
                                  at
                                  somewhere
                                  where you
                                  didn’t
                                  know
                                  anybody
                                  you’re
                                  at
                                  the
                                  wrong
                                  1
                                  because
                                  you
                                  knew
                                  everybody
                                  every
                                  time
                                  that’s
                                  one
                                  of
                                  my
                                  fondest
                                  memories
                                  really
                                  is
                                  and….
                                  and
                                  just
                                  the
                                  atmosphere
                                  of
                                  of
                                  being
                                  in
                                  that
                                  in
                                  a
                                  warehouse
                                  the
                                  sound…
                                  the
                                  mood…
                                  the
                                  it’s
                                  I
                                  can still
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  feel
                                  that
                                  and
                                  remember
                                  that
                                  all
                                  this
                                  time…
                                  that
                                  you’ll…
                                  you
                                  can…
                                  and
                                  you
                                  can
                                  never
                                  replace
                                  it.
                                  You
                                  can
                                  never
                                  recreate
                                  it.
                                  It’s
                                  gone…
                                  it
                                  happened
                                  and
                                  it
                                  was
                                  just
                                  the
                                  whole
                                  the
                                  music,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  and
                                  if
                                  anybody…
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  anybody
                                  would
                                  do
                                  anything
                                  for
                                  you
                                  if
                                  you
                                  needed
                                  a
                                  lift
                                  somewhere
                                  or…
                                  it
                                  were
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  like
                                  suppose it were
                                  like
                                  hip…
                                  60s
                                  hippies…
                                  like
                                  bit
                                  of
                                  peace
                                  and
                                  love
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  thing
                                  and
                                  that’s
                                  what
                                  it
                                  was.
                                  I
                                  liked
                                  Ewood
                                  Mill
                                  I
                                  always
                                  remember
                                  because
                                  there
                                  were
                                  2
                                  there,
                                  one
                                  week
                                  after
                                  the
                                  other
                                  and
                                  Ste…
                                  Well,
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  Ste…
                                  were  
                                  talking
                                  about it
                                  he
                                  dressed
                                  in
                                  a
                                  red
                                  devil
                                  suit
                                  and I
                                  remember
                                  him
                                  New
                                  year
                                  Eve
                                  he
                                  had a
                                  big 
                                  red
                                  devil
                                  suit
                                  on
                                  he
                                  must
                                  have
                                  hired
                                  it
                                  a
                                  big
                                  furry…
                                  He
                                  was
                                  absolutely
                                  roasting
                                  sweating
                                  like
                                  I
                                  don’t know
                                  what
                                  with
                                  this
                                  Big
                                  Red
                                  Devil
                                  suit
                                  on
                                  New
                                  Years
                                  Eve
                                  He must’ve
                                  to
                                  decided
                                  to
                                  dress
                                  up
                                  like that
                                  So that were
                                  fond
                                  memories
                                  and
                                  jumping
                                  in
                                  back
                                  of
                                  his
                                  van.
                                  We
                                  once
                                  got
                                  led
                                  up a
                                  garden 
                                  path
                                  I
                                  think
                                  it
                                  was
                                  it
                                  must
                                  have
                                  been
                                  a false
                                  convoy
                                  and
                                  we
                                  ended
                                  up.
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  if
                                  it
                                  was
                                  Tockholes
                                  or
                                  somewhere.
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  we
                                  ended
                                  up
                                  down
                                  this
                                  dirt
                                  track
                                  lots
                                  of
                                  us
                                  and
                                  then
                                  the
                                  police
                                  blocked
                                  off
                                  one
                                  end
                                  and
                                  then
                                  they
                                  blocked
                                  off
                                  the
                                  other
                                  end
                                  and
                                  they
                                  decided
                                  to
                                  search
                                  all
                                  the
                                  cars
                                  and
                                  vans
                                  and
                                  this
                                  lad
                                  that
                                  was
                                  in
                                  the
                                  van
                                  dropped
                                  some
                                  weed
                                  on
                                  the
                                  floor
                                  and
                                  it
                                  was
                                  like
                                  a
                                  quite
                                  a
                                  big
                                  chunk of
                                  weed
                                  on
                                  the
                                  floor
                                  so
                                  I’m
                                  hiding
                                  in the 
                                  back
                                  of
                                  this
                                  van
                                  the
                                  door
                                  opens
                                  and
                                  I’m
                                  like
                                  this
                                  and
                                  there’s
                                  a
                                  policeman
                                  there
                                  and
                                  I
                                  were like…
                                  Oh
                                  hello
                                  that kind
                                  of
                                  thing.
                                  Anyway,
                                  they
                                  got
                                  the
                                  sniffer
                                  dog,
                                  and
                                  I’m
                                  thinking
                                  oh
                                  my
                                  God…
                                  sniffer
                                  dog…
                                  sniffer
                                  dog
                                  went
                                  in
                                  it
                                  and
                                  never
                                  found
                                  it.
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  know
                                  how
                                  it
                                  never
                                  found
                                  it,
                                  but
                                  it
                                  never
                                  found
                                  it
                                  because
                                  it
                                  was
                                  a
                                  lot
                                  of
                                  electrical
                                  equipment
                                  in
                                  the
                                  back
                                  wires
                                  it
                                  were
                                  full
                                  of
                                  stuff
                                  that
                                  it
                                  wasn’t
                                  organised.
                                  It
                                  was
                                  a
                                  bit
                                  organised
                                  chaos
                                  it
                                  was
                                  so
                                  that’s
                                  probably
                                  why
                                  it
                                  didn’t
                                  find
                                  it
                                  but
                                  I
                                  was
                                  like
                                  so
                                  so
                                  relieved
                                  and
                                  then
                                  this
                                  policemen
                                  said
                                  like…
                                  What
                                  are
                                  you
                                  doing
                                  in…
                                  you
                                  know
                                  back of
                                  here?
                                  You
                                  know,
                                  you
                                  shouldn’t
                                  really
                                  be
                                  in
                                  the
                                  back
                                  of
                                  here
                                  because
                                  you’re
                                  not
                                  it’s
                                  not
                                  a
                                  passenger
                                  vehicle
                                  you
                                  shouldn’t
                                  really
                                  be
                                  in
                                  the
                                  back
                                  of
                                  here
                                  and
                                  I
                                  said,
                                  well,
                                  I’ve
                                  no
                                  way
                                  of
                                  getting
                                  home
                                  now
                                  and
                                  he
                                  said
                                  …
                                  go
                                  on
                                  we’ll…
                                  we’ll
                                  let
                                  you
                                  off
                                  this
                                  time.
                                  He
                                  said
                                  but
                                  in
                                  future
                                  don’t
                                  get
                                  in
                                  the
                                  back
                                  of
                                  that
                                  van
                                  and
                                  then
                                  obviously
                                  the
                                  week
                                  after
                                  I
                                  got
                                  back
                                  in
                                  the
                                  back
                                  of
                                  the
                                  van.
                                  So
                                  a
                                  message
                                  for
                                  young
                                  people
                                  is
                                  don’t…
                                  don’t
                                  ever
                                  judge
                                  a
                                  book
                                  by
                                  it’s
                                  cover,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  don’t
                                  believe
                                  everything
                                  you
                                  hear
                                  or
                                  read
                                  or
                                  see
                                  don’t
                                  knock
                                  it
                                  till
                                  you’ve
                                  tried
                                  it.
                                  
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Are
                                  there
                                  any
                                  more
                                  dark
                                  memories
                                  of
                                  that
                                  time?
                                  At
                                  that
                                  time.
                                  No
                                  it
                                  felt
                                  like…
                                  It
                                  felt
                                  like
                                  we
                                  were
                                  involved
                                  in
                                  a
                                  revolution.
                                  It
                                  really
                                  did
                                  even
                                  though
                                  it
                                  was
                                  this
                                  just
                                  in
                                  this
                                  one
                                  small
                                  Northern
                                  town.
                                  It
                                  did
                                  feel
                                  like
                                  we were
                                  going
                                  to
                                  take
                                  over…
                                  the
                                  police
                                  just
                                  couldn’t
                                  deal
                                  with
                                  it.
                                  They
                                  couldn’t
                                  handle
                                  it…
                                  and
                                  we
                                  just
                                  yeah
                                  just
                                  felt
                                  revolutionary,
                                  but
                                  i’d 
                                  have
                                  said
                                  the
                                  dark
                                  bit
                                  happened
                                  …
                                  later
                                  obviously
                                  the
                                  Sett
                                  End 
                                  closed
                                  down
                                  and
                                  then
                                  they
                                  started
                                  trying
                                  to
                                  get
                                  it
                                  going
                                  at
                                  the
                                  you
                                  Yutick’s
                                  Nest.
                                  So
                                  we
                                  were
                                  hanging
                                  around
                                  there
                                  a
                                  lot
                                  and
                                  nothing
                                  there
                                  were
                                  like
                                  a
                                  little
                                  spell
                                  where
                                  nothing
                                  seemed
                                  to
                                  happen.
                                  And
                                  I
                                  think at
                                  this
                                  stage
                                  aswell
                                  …
                                  the
                                  queues
                                  had
                                  gone
                                  mad
                                  as
                                  well.
                                  So
                                  Yu…
                                  Yutick’s Nest
                                  were
                                  virtually
                                  impossible
                                  to
                                  get
                                  in..
                                  well
                                  by
                                  the
                                  time
                                  that
                                  happened
                                  …
                                  on
                                  but
                                  I’d
                                  say it
                                  started
                                  getting
                                  ugly
                                  when
                                  Monroe’s
                                  …
                                  when
                                  it
                                  moved
                                  to
                                  Monroe’s
                                  because
                                  obviously
                                  they
                                  did,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  the
                                  drug
                                  wars
                                  and
                                  everything
                                  that
                                  happened
                                  there
                                  and
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  the
                                  doorman
                                  wanting
                                  to
                                  take
                                  control
                                  of
                                  what
                                  happened
                                  and
                                  …
                                  I
                                  think
                                  there
                                  were
                                  a…
                                  even
                                  a
                                  gun
                                  pulled
                                  at
                                  Monroe’s
                                  at
                                  one
                                  point
                                  and
                                  and
                                  it
                                  felt
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  you
                                  were
                                  scared
                                  going
                                  there.
                                  And
                                  the
                                  first…
                                  I’d
                                  say
                                  the
                                  first
                                  few
                                  months
                                  going
                                  up
                                  Monroe’s
                                  were
                                  great,
                                  you
                                  know it
                                  used
                                  to
                                  make
                                  me
                                  laugh
                                  that
                                  there
                                  was
                                  no
                                  alcohol
                                  license
                                  there,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  it’s
                                  a
                                  nightclub
                                  with
                                  a
                                  massive
                                  bar
                                  and
                                  there’s
                                  no
                                  alcohol
                                  license.
                                  But
                                  yeah,
                                  it
                                  just
                                  started
                                  getting
                                  ugly
                                  and
                                  I
                                  think…
                                  I
                                  think
                                  like
                                  I
                                  said
                                  before
                                  it
                                  did…
                                  it
                                  just…
                                  it
                                  did
                                  just
                                  stop
                                  in
                                  the
                                  end.
                                  But
                                  then
                                  for
                                  me
                                  in
                                  its
                                  last…
                                  I
                                  will
                                  always…
                                  and
                                  I
                                  wanted
                                  to
                                  be
                                  into
                                  the
                                  next
                                  big
                                  thing
                                  constantly
                                  as
                                  well.
                                  So
                                  between
                                  me
                                  and
                                  my
                                  friends,
                                  it
                                  had
                                  lost
                                  its
                                  trendiness,
                                  you
                                  know
                                  what
                                  I
                                  mean
                                  by
                                  that
                                  point
                                  as
                                  well
                                  …
                                  And
                                  it
                                  just
                                  became
                                  full
                                  of
                                  d**heads
                                  and
                                  violence,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  so
                                  we
                                  thought
                                  right..
                                  well
                                  we’ll
                                  get
                                  into
                                  the
                                  next
                                  thing…
                                  we’ll
                                  find
                                  what
                                  the
                                  next
                                  thing
                                  is
                                  and
                                  get
                                  into
                                  that.
                                  So
                                  yeah,
                                  I
                                  wouldn’t
                                  say
                                  it…
                                  yeah,
                                  obviously
                                  there’s
                                  the
                                  underaged
                                  element
                                  to
                                  it.
                                  Obviously
                                  like
                                  me
                                  being
                                  in
                                  there a
                                  15 year
                                  old,
                                  you
                                  know
                                  me’ mum
                                  had
                                  no
                                  idea
                                  what
                                  we were
                                  doing.
                                  She
                                  thought
                                  we’d gone
                                  to
                                  a
                                  disco,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  and
                                  then
                                  on
                                  obviously
                                  when
                                  they
                                  trapped
                                  us
                                  all
                                  in
                                  Blackburn
                                  town
                                  centre
                                  on
                                  Darwen
                                  Street
                                  where
                                  The
                                  Minstrels
                                  used
                                  to
                                  be…
                                  they
                                  boxed
                                  us 
                                  all
                                  in and
                                  I
                                  can
                                  remember
                                  us
                                  being
                                  shoulder
                                  to
                                  shoulder
                                  on
                                  that
                                  crossroads.
                                  It
                                  might
                                  even
                                  have
                                  been
                                  Tommy…
                                  there
                                  was
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  there
                                  was a 
                                  lad stood
                                  on
                                  a
                                  car
                                  roof
                                  going..
                                  Nobody
                                  run!
                                  Nobody
                                  run!
                                  They
                                  started
                                  letting
                                  dogs
                                  go
                                  1
                                  or
                                  2
                                  cops
                                  let
                                  dogs go
                                  you
                                  know
                                  there wer’
                                  dogs
                                  barking
                                  they’re
                                  letting
                                  dogs
                                  go
                                  out in’t
                                  crowd
                                  and
                                  I
                                  can
                                  remember
                                  mounted
                                  police
                                  in
                                  a
                                  crowd
                                  like
                                  tryna’
                                  round
                                  everybody
                                  up
                                  in
                                  middle
                                  of
                                  that…
                                  That…
                                  that
                                  wer’
                                  that wer’ a
                                  ugly
                                  side
                                  to
                                  it.
                                  But
                                  yeah
                                  the…
                                  the
                                  most…
                                  the
                                  overall
                                  memory
                                  of
                                  it
                                  is
                                  just
                                  that
                                  this
                                  revolutionary
                                  Punk
                                  spirit
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  it’s
                                  like
                                  the
                                  youths
                                  were
                                  taking
                                  it,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  we’re
                                  taking
                                  it
                                  and
                                  …
                                  it’s
                                  ours.
                                  We’re
                                  having
                                  it,
                                  you
                                  know.
                                  Yeah
                                  great
                                  days.
                                  
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Are
                                  there
                                  any
                                  more
                                  dark
                                  memories
                                  of
                                  that
                                  time?
                                  At
                                  that
                                  time.
                                  No
                                  it
                                  felt
                                  like…
                                  It
                                  felt
                                  like
                                  we
                                  were
                                  involved
                                  in
                                  a
                                  revolution.
                                  It
                                  really
                                  did
                                  even
                                  though
                                  it
                                  was
                                  this
                                  just
                                  in
                                  this
                                  one
                                  small
                                  Northern
                                  town.
                                  It
                                  did
                                  feel
                                  like
                                  we were
                                  going
                                  to
                                  take
                                  over…
                                  the
                                  police
                                  just
                                  couldn’t
                                  deal
                                  with
                                  it.
                                  They
                                  couldn’t
                                  handle
                                  it…
                                  and
                                  we
                                  just
                                  yeah
                                  just
                                  felt
                                  revolutionary,
                                  but
                                  i’d 
                                  have
                                  said
                                  the
                                  dark
                                  bit
                                  happened
                                  …
                                  later
                                  obviously
                                  the
                                  Sett
                                  End 
                                  closed
                                  down
                                  and
                                  then
                                  they
                                  started
                                  trying
                                  to
                                  get
                                  it
                                  going
                                  at
                                  the
                                  you
                                  Yutick’s
                                  Nest.
                                  So
                                  we
                                  were
                                  hanging
                                  around
                                  there
                                  a
                                  lot
                                  and
                                  nothing
                                  there
                                  were
                                  like
                                  a
                                  little
                                  spell
                                  where
                                  nothing
                                  seemed
                                  to
                                  happen.
                                  And
                                  I
                                  think at
                                  this
                                  stage
                                  aswell
                                  …
                                  the
                                  queues
                                  had
                                  gone
                                  mad
                                  as
                                  well.
                                  So
                                  Yu…
                                  Yutick’s Nest
                                  were
                                  virtually
                                  impossible
                                  to
                                  get
                                  in..
                                  well
                                  by
                                  the
                                  time
                                  that
                                  happened
                                  …
                                  on
                                  but
                                  I’d
                                  say it
                                  started
                                  getting
                                  ugly
                                  when
                                  Monroe’s
                                  …
                                  when
                                  it
                                  moved
                                  to
                                  Monroe’s
                                  because
                                  obviously
                                  they
                                  did,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  the
                                  drug
                                  wars
                                  and
                                  everything
                                  that
                                  happened
                                  there
                                  and
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  the
                                  doorman
                                  wanting
                                  to
                                  take
                                  control
                                  of
                                  what
                                  happened
                                  and
                                  …
                                  I
                                  think
                                  there
                                  were
                                  a…
                                  even
                                  a
                                  gun
                                  pulled
                                  at
                                  Monroe’s
                                  at
                                  one
                                  point
                                  and
                                  and
                                  it
                                  felt
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  you
                                  were
                                  scared
                                  going
                                  there.
                                  And
                                  the
                                  first…
                                  I’d
                                  say
                                  the
                                  first
                                  few
                                  months
                                  going
                                  up
                                  Monroe’s
                                  were
                                  great,
                                  you
                                  know it
                                  used
                                  to
                                  make
                                  me
                                  laugh
                                  that
                                  there
                                  was
                                  no
                                  alcohol
                                  license
                                  there,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  it’s
                                  a
                                  nightclub
                                  with
                                  a
                                  massive
                                  bar
                                  and
                                  there’s
                                  no
                                  alcohol
                                  license.
                                  But
                                  yeah,
                                  it
                                  just
                                  started
                                  getting
                                  ugly
                                  and
                                  I
                                  think…
                                  I
                                  think
                                  like
                                  I
                                  said
                                  before
                                  it
                                  did…
                                  it
                                  just…
                                  it
                                  did
                                  just
                                  stop
                                  in
                                  the
                                  end.
                                  But
                                  then
                                  for
                                  me
                                  in
                                  its
                                  last…
                                  I
                                  will
                                  always…
                                  and
                                  I
                                  wanted
                                  to
                                  be
                                  into
                                  the
                                  next
                                  big
                                  thing
                                  constantly
                                  as
                                  well.
                                  So
                                  between
                                  me
                                  and
                                  my
                                  friends,
                                  it
                                  had
                                  lost
                                  its
                                  trendiness,
                                  you
                                  know
                                  what
                                  I
                                  mean
                                  by
                                  that
                                  point
                                  as
                                  well
                                  …
                                  And
                                  it
                                  just
                                  became
                                  full
                                  of
                                  d**heads
                                  and
                                  violence,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  so
                                  we
                                  thought
                                  right..
                                  well
                                  we’ll
                                  get
                                  into
                                  the
                                  next
                                  thing…
                                  we’ll
                                  find
                                  what
                                  the
                                  next
                                  thing
                                  is
                                  and
                                  get
                                  into
                                  that.
                                  So
                                  yeah,
                                  I
                                  wouldn’t
                                  say
                                  it…
                                  yeah,
                                  obviously
                                  there’s
                                  the
                                  underaged
                                  element
                                  to
                                  it.
                                  Obviously
                                  like
                                  me
                                  being
                                  in
                                  there a
                                  15 year
                                  old,
                                  you
                                  know
                                  me’ mum
                                  had
                                  no
                                  idea
                                  what
                                  we were
                                  doing.
                                  She
                                  thought
                                  we’d gone
                                  to
                                  a
                                  disco,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  and
                                  then
                                  on
                                  obviously
                                  when
                                  they
                                  trapped
                                  us
                                  all
                                  in
                                  Blackburn
                                  town
                                  centre
                                  on
                                  Darwen
                                  Street
                                  where
                                  The
                                  Minstrels
                                  used
                                  to
                                  be…
                                  they
                                  boxed
                                  us 
                                  all
                                  in and
                                  I
                                  can
                                  remember
                                  us
                                  being
                                  shoulder
                                  to
                                  shoulder
                                  on
                                  that
                                  crossroads.
                                  It
                                  might
                                  even
                                  have
                                  been
                                  Tommy…
                                  there
                                  was
                                  I
                                  remember
                                  there
                                  was a 
                                  lad stood
                                  on
                                  a
                                  car
                                  roof
                                  going..
                                  Nobody
                                  run!
                                  Nobody
                                  run!
                                  They
                                  started
                                  letting
                                  dogs
                                  go
                                  1
                                  or
                                  2
                                  cops
                                  let
                                  dogs go
                                  you
                                  know
                                  there wer’
                                  dogs
                                  barking
                                  they’re
                                  letting
                                  dogs
                                  go
                                  out in’t
                                  crowd
                                  and
                                  I
                                  can
                                  remember
                                  mounted
                                  police
                                  in
                                  a
                                  crowd
                                  like
                                  tryna’
                                  round
                                  everybody
                                  up
                                  in
                                  middle
                                  of
                                  that…
                                  That…
                                  that
                                  wer’
                                  that wer’ a
                                  ugly
                                  side
                                  to
                                  it.
                                  But
                                  yeah
                                  the…
                                  the
                                  most…
                                  the
                                  overall
                                  memory
                                  of
                                  it
                                  is
                                  just
                                  that
                                  this
                                  revolutionary
                                  Punk
                                  spirit
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  it’s
                                  like
                                  the
                                  youths
                                  were
                                  taking
                                  it,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  we’re
                                  taking
                                  it
                                  and
                                  …
                                  it’s
                                  ours.
                                  We’re
                                  having
                                  it,
                                  you
                                  know.
                                  Yeah
                                  great
                                  days.
                                  
                          Mark Life Afterwards
Click to play
What
                                  what
                                  did
                                  you
                                  do
                                  after
                                  the
                                  parties?
                                  I
                                  think…
                                  I
                                  would
                                  still
                                  going
                                  to
                                  I
                                  think
                                  like 
                                  I
                                  said,
                                  I
                                  was
                                  still
                                  going
                                  to…
                                  see
                                  this
                                  is
                                  where
                                  I
                                  get
                                  me’
                                  dates
                                  mixed
                                  up
                                  …
                                  I
                                  think
                                  by
                                  the
                                  end
                                  of
                                  art
                                  school
                                  I had
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  gotten…
                                  totally
                                  fallen
                                  out
                                  with
                                  it,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  maybe
                                  at
                                  the
                                  beginning
                                  maybe
                                  the
                                  1st
                                  year
                                  on
                                  the
                                  that
                                  B-Tech
                                  I’d
                                  fallen
                                  out
                                  with
                                  it
                                  and
                                  then…
                                  yeah 
                                  I
                                  went
                                  to…
                                  it
                                  was
                                  still
                                  going
                                  on
                                  though.
                                  They
                                  were still 
                                  going
                                  on
                                  those
                                  still
                                  big
                                  parties 
                                  going
                                  on
                                  and
                                  I
                                  can
                                  remember
                                  going…
                                  I
                                  went
                                  to
                                  do
                                  film
                                  studies
                                  and
                                  television
                                  design
                                  at
                                  Farnborough.
                                  I
                                  wasn’t a
                                  very
                                  focused
                                  …
                                  student
                                  so
                                  I
                                  didn’t
                                  get
                                  in
                                  on
                                  the
                                  degree
                                  course
                                  I
                                  wanted
                                  it,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  if
                                  I’m
                                  going
                                  out
                                  every
                                  weekend
                                  doing
                                  that.
                                  It’s
                                  not
                                  surprising.
                                  You
                                  know,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  As 
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  Sally
                                  said
                                  she 
                                  said,
                                  I
                                  do
                                  remember
                                  you from
                                  art
                                  school
                                  but
                                  you
                                  were
                                  never
                                  there.
                                  And
                                  then
                                  yes,
                                  I’m 
                                  like
                                  doing
                                  …
                                  film
                                  and
                                  television
                                  design
                                  down
                                  South.
                                  And
                                  yeah,
                                  I
                                  think
                                  I’d
                                  been
                                  there
                                  about
                                  6
                                  months.
                                  And
                                  me
                                  mates
                                  are
                                  ringing
                                  me up
                                  again.
                                  There’s
                                  massive
                                  raves 
                                  going
                                  on 
                                  again.
                                  There’s
                                  there
                                  were
                                  like
                                  …
                                  20000
                                  people
                                  last
                                  week,
                                  you
                                  know
                                  blah
                                  de
                                  blah.
                                  Yeah…
                                  so
                                  I 
                                  thought
                                  F**k it
                                  I’m
                                  going
                                  home.
                                  So
                                  I
                                  sacked
                                  my
                                  course
                                  off
                                  and 
                                  went 
                                  home.
                                  Me
                                  mum…
                                  me
                                  mum
                                  was
                                  not
                                  happy
                                  about
                                  it.
                                  But
                                  yeah
                                  talking
                                  about
                                  the
                                  numbers
                                  going
                                  mad.
                                  This
                                  is…
                                  I
                                  can’t
                                  remember
                                  clearly
                                  whether
                                  it
                                  was
                                  after
                                  the
                                  Sett
                                  End
                                  or
                                  after
                                  Monroe’s
                                  but
                                  there
                                  was
                                  a
                                  party
                                  where
                                  it
                                  was
                                  the
                                  biggest
                                  numbers
                                  they’ve
                                  ever
                                  seen.
                                  I
                                  think
                                  they
                                  were
                                  estimated.
                                  15000
                                  in
                                  a
                                  Royal…
                                  Royal
                                  Mail
                                  warehouse
                                  that
                                  are
                                  just
                                  been
                                  built 
                                  just…
                                  just
                                  been
                                  completed.
                                  In
                                  fact,
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  think
                                  they’d
                                  finished
                                  the
                                  concrete
                                  on
                                  one
                                  corner
                                  that
                                  section
                                  of
                                  the
                                  floor
                                  and
                                  there
                                  was
                                  still
                                  a
                                  JCB
                                  in
                                  the
                                  middle
                                  of
                                  the
                                  building
                                  which
                                  we 
                                  were
                                  dancing
                                  on
                                  and
                                  I
                                  can
                                  I
                                  think
                                  there
                                  were
                                  like
                                  15000
                                  in
                                  the
                                  building
                                  and
                                  10
                                  or 
                                  and
                                  10000
                                  outside
                                  still
                                  trying
                                  to
                                  get
                                  in
                                  and
                                  it
                                  was…
                                  it
                                  was
                                  just
                                  mental.
                                  It
                                  just
                                  went
                                  mad,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  but
                                  yeah
                                  that’s…
                                  there
                                  was
                                  another
                                  ugly
                                  side
                                  there
                                  as
                                  well.
                                  Obviously
                                  they
                                  were
                                  they
                                  were
                                  charging
                                  as
                                  you
                                  go
                                  in
                                  you’re
                                  paying
                                  your
                                  money.
                                  Obviously,
                                  there’s
                                  gangs
                                  of
                                  lads 
                                  coming
                                  from
                                  every
                                  city
                                  all
                                  over
                                  the 
                                  North
                                  so
                                  there
                                  was
                                  gangs of
                                  lads
                                  trying
                                  to
                                  force
                                  the
                                  roller
                                  shutters
                                  up…
                                  like
                                  jacking
                                  them
                                  up
                                  and
                                  as…
                                  as
                                  they
                                  got
                                  them
                                  about
                                  that
                                  high
                                  there
                                  were
                                  people
                                  who
                                  started
                                  crawling…
                                  these
                                  roller shutters like..
                                  like
                                  the
                                  length
                                  of
                                  this
                                  street…
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  and
                                  the
                                  people
                                  start
                                  pouring
                                  underneath
                                  it
                                  crawling
                                  and
                                  as
                                  they
                                  were
                                  doing…
                                  as
                                  they
                                  were
                                  doing
                                  it…
                                  there 
                                  were
                                  lads 
                                  in
                                  SAS
                                  masks
                                  balaclavas
                                  wi’
                                  baseball
                                  bats
                                  cracking
                                  their
                                  knuckles
                                  cracking 
                                  their 
                                  knuckles 
                                  cracking…
                                  you
                                  know
                                  as
                                  they were
                                  coming
                                  in…
                                  that sort of
                                  thing
                                  some
                                  of
                                  them
                                  got
                                  in
                                  and
                                  escaped
                                  into
                                  the
                                  crowd,
                                  but
                                  they
                                  were
                                  like
                                  cracking
                                  people
                                  as
                                  they
                                  were
                                  trying
                                  to
                                  force
                                  the
                                  roller
                                  shutters
                                  …
                                  back
                                  …
                                  down.
                                  And
                                  so
                                  yeah
                                  that
                                  was
                                  another
                                  ugly
                                  side
                                  to
                                  it.
                                  But
                                  yeah,
                                  if
                                  they
                                  were…
                                  it…
                                  it
                                  great (laughs)
                                  apart
                                  from,
                                  you
                                  know
                                  apart
                                  from
                                  those
                                  instances.
                                  
                            Full Transcript:
What
                                  what
                                  did
                                  you
                                  do
                                  after
                                  the
                                  parties?
                                  I
                                  think…
                                  I
                                  would
                                  still
                                  going
                                  to
                                  I
                                  think
                                  like 
                                  I
                                  said,
                                  I
                                  was
                                  still
                                  going
                                  to…
                                  see
                                  this
                                  is
                                  where
                                  I
                                  get
                                  me’
                                  dates
                                  mixed
                                  up
                                  …
                                  I
                                  think
                                  by
                                  the
                                  end
                                  of
                                  art
                                  school
                                  I had
                                  kind
                                  of
                                  gotten…
                                  totally
                                  fallen
                                  out
                                  with
                                  it,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  maybe
                                  at
                                  the
                                  beginning
                                  maybe
                                  the
                                  1st
                                  year
                                  on
                                  the
                                  that
                                  B-Tech
                                  I’d
                                  fallen
                                  out
                                  with
                                  it
                                  and
                                  then…
                                  yeah 
                                  I
                                  went
                                  to…
                                  it
                                  was
                                  still
                                  going
                                  on
                                  though.
                                  They
                                  were still 
                                  going
                                  on
                                  those
                                  still
                                  big
                                  parties 
                                  going
                                  on
                                  and
                                  I
                                  can
                                  remember
                                  going…
                                  I
                                  went
                                  to
                                  do
                                  film
                                  studies
                                  and
                                  television
                                  design
                                  at
                                  Farnborough.
                                  I
                                  wasn’t a
                                  very
                                  focused
                                  …
                                  student
                                  so
                                  I
                                  didn’t
                                  get
                                  in
                                  on
                                  the
                                  degree
                                  course
                                  I
                                  wanted
                                  it,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  if
                                  I’m
                                  going
                                  out
                                  every
                                  weekend
                                  doing
                                  that.
                                  It’s
                                  not
                                  surprising.
                                  You
                                  know,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  As 
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  Sally
                                  said
                                  she 
                                  said,
                                  I
                                  do
                                  remember
                                  you from
                                  art
                                  school
                                  but
                                  you
                                  were
                                  never
                                  there.
                                  And
                                  then
                                  yes,
                                  I’m 
                                  like
                                  doing
                                  …
                                  film
                                  and
                                  television
                                  design
                                  down
                                  South.
                                  And
                                  yeah,
                                  I
                                  think
                                  I’d
                                  been
                                  there
                                  about
                                  6
                                  months.
                                  And
                                  me
                                  mates
                                  are
                                  ringing
                                  me up
                                  again.
                                  There’s
                                  massive
                                  raves 
                                  going
                                  on 
                                  again.
                                  There’s
                                  there
                                  were
                                  like
                                  …
                                  20000
                                  people
                                  last
                                  week,
                                  you
                                  know
                                  blah
                                  de
                                  blah.
                                  Yeah…
                                  so
                                  I 
                                  thought
                                  F**k it
                                  I’m
                                  going
                                  home.
                                  So
                                  I
                                  sacked
                                  my
                                  course
                                  off
                                  and 
                                  went 
                                  home.
                                  Me
                                  mum…
                                  me
                                  mum
                                  was
                                  not
                                  happy
                                  about
                                  it.
                                  But
                                  yeah
                                  talking
                                  about
                                  the
                                  numbers
                                  going
                                  mad.
                                  This
                                  is…
                                  I
                                  can’t
                                  remember
                                  clearly
                                  whether
                                  it
                                  was
                                  after
                                  the
                                  Sett
                                  End
                                  or
                                  after
                                  Monroe’s
                                  but
                                  there
                                  was
                                  a
                                  party
                                  where
                                  it
                                  was
                                  the
                                  biggest
                                  numbers
                                  they’ve
                                  ever
                                  seen.
                                  I
                                  think
                                  they
                                  were
                                  estimated.
                                  15000
                                  in
                                  a
                                  Royal…
                                  Royal
                                  Mail
                                  warehouse
                                  that
                                  are
                                  just
                                  been
                                  built 
                                  just…
                                  just
                                  been
                                  completed.
                                  In
                                  fact,
                                  I
                                  don’t
                                  think
                                  they’d
                                  finished
                                  the
                                  concrete
                                  on
                                  one
                                  corner
                                  that
                                  section
                                  of
                                  the
                                  floor
                                  and
                                  there
                                  was
                                  still
                                  a
                                  JCB
                                  in
                                  the
                                  middle
                                  of
                                  the
                                  building
                                  which
                                  we 
                                  were
                                  dancing
                                  on
                                  and
                                  I
                                  can
                                  I
                                  think
                                  there
                                  were
                                  like
                                  15000
                                  in
                                  the
                                  building
                                  and
                                  10
                                  or 
                                  and
                                  10000
                                  outside
                                  still
                                  trying
                                  to
                                  get
                                  in
                                  and
                                  it
                                  was…
                                  it
                                  was
                                  just
                                  mental.
                                  It
                                  just
                                  went
                                  mad,
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  but
                                  yeah
                                  that’s…
                                  there
                                  was
                                  another
                                  ugly
                                  side
                                  there
                                  as
                                  well.
                                  Obviously
                                  they
                                  were
                                  they
                                  were
                                  charging
                                  as
                                  you
                                  go
                                  in
                                  you’re
                                  paying
                                  your
                                  money.
                                  Obviously,
                                  there’s
                                  gangs
                                  of
                                  lads 
                                  coming
                                  from
                                  every
                                  city
                                  all
                                  over
                                  the 
                                  North
                                  so
                                  there
                                  was
                                  gangs of
                                  lads
                                  trying
                                  to
                                  force
                                  the
                                  roller
                                  shutters
                                  up…
                                  like
                                  jacking
                                  them
                                  up
                                  and
                                  as…
                                  as
                                  they
                                  got
                                  them
                                  about
                                  that
                                  high
                                  there
                                  were
                                  people
                                  who
                                  started
                                  crawling…
                                  these
                                  roller shutters like..
                                  like
                                  the
                                  length
                                  of
                                  this
                                  street…
                                  you
                                  know,
                                  and
                                  the
                                  people
                                  start
                                  pouring
                                  underneath
                                  it
                                  crawling
                                  and
                                  as
                                  they
                                  were
                                  doing…
                                  as
                                  they
                                  were
                                  doing
                                  it…
                                  there 
                                  were
                                  lads 
                                  in
                                  SAS
                                  masks
                                  balaclavas
                                  wi’
                                  baseball
                                  bats
                                  cracking
                                  their
                                  knuckles
                                  cracking 
                                  their 
                                  knuckles 
                                  cracking…
                                  you
                                  know
                                  as
                                  they were
                                  coming
                                  in…
                                  that sort of
                                  thing
                                  some
                                  of
                                  them
                                  got
                                  in
                                  and
                                  escaped
                                  into
                                  the
                                  crowd,
                                  but
                                  they
                                  were
                                  like
                                  cracking
                                  people
                                  as
                                  they
                                  were
                                  trying
                                  to
                                  force
                                  the
                                  roller
                                  shutters
                                  …
                                  back
                                  …
                                  down.
                                  And
                                  so
                                  yeah
                                  that
                                  was
                                  another
                                  ugly
                                  side
                                  to
                                  it.
                                  But
                                  yeah,
                                  if
                                  they
                                  were…
                                  it…
                                  it
                                  great (laughs)
                                  apart
                                  from,
                                  you
                                  know
                                  apart
                                  from
                                  those
                                  instances.
                                  
                          Mark Advice For Future Generations
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What
                                  one
                                  thing
                                  would
                                  you
                                  say
                                  to
                                  a
                                  kid
                                  in
                                  Blackburn
                                  in
                                  a
                                  100
                                  years
                                  time
                                  about
                                  that
                                  time?
                                  Enjoy
                                  looking
                                  back
                                  at
                                  this
                                  but
                                  always
                                  look
                                  forward
                                  and
                                  always
                                  think
                                  progressively.
                                  
                            Full Transcript:
What
                                  one
                                  thing
                                  would
                                  you
                                  say
                                  to
                                  a
                                  kid
                                  in
                                  Blackburn
                                  in
                                  a
                                  100
                                  years
                                  time
                                  about
                                  that
                                  time?
                                  Enjoy
                                  looking
                                  back
                                  at
                                  this
                                  but
                                  always
                                  look
                                  forward
                                  and
                                  always
                                  think
                                  progressively.